Term Limits.. it's time has come?

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    I think people are getting plenty pissed with the House and Senate, heck with Government overall. Perhaps... it's time to review the possibilities...eh..

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    However, when the states ratified the Constitution (1787–88), several leading statesmen regarded the lack of mandatory limits to tenure as a dangerous defect, especially, they thought, as regards the Presidency and the Senate. Richard Henry Lee viewed the absence of legal limits to tenure, together with certain other features of the Constitution, as "most highly and dangerously oligarchic."[8] Both Jefferson[9] and George Mason[10] advised limits on reelection to the Senate and to the Presidency, because said Mason, "nothing is so essential to the preservation of a Republican government as a periodic rotation." The historian Mercy Otis Warren, warned that "there is no provision for a rotation, nor anything to prevent the perpetuity of office in the same hands for life; which by a little well timed bribery, will probably be done...."[11]

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    I have heard this a few times but I can't see how this would change anything. Please, explain the benefits.
     
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    Just shaking things up could get them motivated.
     
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    My issue with is that people usually default to that fact that they are always in campaign mode and pandering to their constituents instead of getting things done. Term limits would end that for the last term. HOWEVER, people always forget the other side of that. On their last term, the constitutes are no longer much concern other than party issues. In other words, after your last term you can piss everyone off worth terrible legislation and not really care as there is no price to pay. I can't tell if that positives outweigh the negatives in this case. Maybe this thread will help...
     
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    Are you admitting to a limited imagination... then...:lol:
     
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    Members of the former Soviet Union's Politboro had a greater turnover of personnel than Congress has.

    I don't actully think that term limits will change much except the roster, but I also see nothing wrong with the idea as long as we don't shorten potential terms too much. I think a total 12 years in Congress is probably a decent limit.

    What I do think we ought to do is greatly expand the number of Representatives

    We ought to have one Rep for about every 30,000 citizens.

    While we at it we ought to double the number of Senators per state, too.

    Right now legislative power is way too concentrated.

    Were it up to me, I'd change our legislative system to a parlimentary system, too.

    This would give us a much better chance of getting more than two parties on board.

    If course there's not a chance in hell that's going to happen.
     
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    Hmm I'll have to think about that one. 200 senators? Could become very murky..
     
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    term limits ....we have them...its called elections....the citizens vote etc.....why are you wanting to take this power out of the voters hands and turn more power over to the government? if you want to change term limits then you will have to change the entire way the senate functions on seniority...
     
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    I'm not all in or all out on this..I'm just considering the possibilities...

    My view is that our government is dysfunctional.. their working less for the people and more for their re-election. Term limits may affect this...
     
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    how would term limits effect this? go on ....tell me how? if you have term limits how will you decide who is on what committees etc? seniority has always been the method used

    before you toss out the system you need to have a replacement in mind.
     

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