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[montelatici]

Palestine is no more the ancient homeland of European Jews, than it is to European Christians. Converting to a religion does not make one indigenous to the location where the religion was established.

Europeans "bought" less than 10% of the land in Palestine from the Christian and Muslim owners. 90% of the land was owned by Christians and Muslims until 1948, when the Jews stole the land from them.

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia is it not are they not interlopers by your logic as well... If people of Arab descent from Arabia convert to Christian or Muslim religions did they not come in and steal the land from someone previously...Your argument is circular and can be used against you...Land is bought and sold and conquered all the time people are removed justly or unjustly constantly there is not one nation on earth that is not guilty of this by you singling out the Jews only you are showing your true colours...At one time this land belonged to the Jews and they have never not lived there in one form or another by your denying their right their even though many of the Jews are from former Muslim countries where they were kicked out of ... You only point your finger at Jews of European descent what of Jews of Iraqi,Yemeni, Syrian, Egyptian etc etc descent... You sir are showing your true colours..

Arab is a language and culture, not an ethnicity. The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine. They are, for the most past, descendants of the people that lived in the area prior to the Roman conquest who converted to Christianity by choice and by law after the Romans made Christianity the state religion and required all residents of Aelia Capotolini (Jersualem) to be Christians, as it was the major Christian holy city for the Orthodox.

Arab is an analog to Hispanic. An Indio in Mexico speaks Spanish and has adopted many Spanish cultural rituals, including the Catholic religion, but they are not Spanish. Palestinians are not Arabians. the Arabians arrived to rule, they didn't settle.

Even Egyptians are not very Arabian.

Tunisians are less Arabian than Ashkenazi Jews, who are 10 % Arabian.

 

[Hossfly]

Palestine is no more the ancient homeland of European Jews, than it is to European Christians. Converting to a religion does not make one indigenous to the location where the religion was established.

Europeans "bought" less than 10% of the land in Palestine from the Christian and Muslim owners. 90% of the land was owned by Christians and Muslims until 1948, when the Jews stole the land from them.

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia is it not are they not interlopers by your logic as well... If people of Arab descent from Arabia convert to Christian or Muslim religions did they not come in and steal the land from someone previously...Your argument is circular and can be used against you...Land is bought and sold and conquered all the time people are removed justly or unjustly constantly there is not one nation on earth that is not guilty of this by you singling out the Jews only you are showing your true colours...At one time this land belonged to the Jews and they have never not lived there in one form or another by your denying their right their even though many of the Jews are from former Muslim countries where they were kicked out of ... You only point your finger at Jews of European descent what of Jews of Iraqi,Yemeni, Syrian, Egyptian etc etc descent... You sir are showing your true colours..

Arab is a language and culture, not an ethnicity. The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine. They are, for the most past, descendants of the people that lived in the area prior to the Roman conquest who converted to Christianity by choice and by law after the Romans made Christianity the state religion and required all residents of Aelia Capotolini (Jersualem) to be Christians, as it was the major Christian holy city for the Orthodox.

Arab is an analog to Hispanic. An Indio in Mexico speaks Spanish and has adopted many Spanish cultural rituals, including the Catholic religion, but they are not Spanish. Palestinians are not Arabians. the Arabians arrived to rule, they didn't settle.

Even Egyptians are not very Arabian.

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Tunisians are less Arabian than Ashkenazi Jews, who are 10 % Arabian.

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How about we drop the "Arab" and replace that with "Followers of Mohammed?"

 

[shimon]

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia...

And the zionist jews creating all the trouble over the last several decades are from Europe.

Next.

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ... You don't see the silliness of your argument...Wasn't there plenty of troubles in most of the Middle East after Arab and Muslim nationalism reemerged...Aren't the Muslims who hold huge tracts of land and countries using their territories to increase control all over the world and yet you point your finger at a small little group in a small little area of the world...Have you ever seem a clam get all irritated by a speck of sand..The clam spends tremendous amounts of energy to make that irritant go away and yet something beautiful comes out of it called a pearl...In order to get to that pearl the clam itself must die is that what you wish for the Arabs to get rid of their irritant little Israel that speck of sand...Israel is the pearl and the Jews have made it out of that little speck of sand the Arabs are helping the Jews build a better pearl and are being shut out by their actions instead of embracing it and enjoying the beauty that that pearl has to offer...

Let's say that if the European Zionists had not colonized Palestine, many problems that have evolved from that colonization would not have evolved. For example, the West (thru association with Britain and the UK) would not be as hated by the Muslims had the West (the British) not facilitated the colonization through force of arms used to prevent the Muslims and Christians from achieving self-determination in palestine.

I do not agree with you there simply because although Christians have lived in many Muslim countries with the rise of fundaMENTAL ideas intolerance of any who are not Muslim is occurring in these countries and the indigenous Christians and other minorities such as Jews etc etc have either been forced out converted or killed...It has nothing to do with the supposed colonization of Israel by so called Europeans ..Tell that to the Hindus who lived in the Hindu Kush and were exterminated or enslaved by the marauding Moslem armies... There are many injustices today by pointing your finger exclusively in one area you are showing tremendous intolerance and deceit...

 

[shimon]

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ...

One down.

There was a song written about you Louie in the 70's It is titled something like Louie Are you gonna Cry? Or something thereabouts... Why are you shrilly Crying about Little Israel what is your motivation to be pointing your finger in their direction all the time...Is this the only injustice you see if that is the case you better take your Blinders " DOWN " because it is you that will be going DOWN with the ship not I....

While small in size, siding with her has brought hatred from the rest of the world, let alone, her agents wield too much power in America and they are destroying our freedoms here from within...

The US is about to make it a felony to support BDS! No, I'm not making this up!

Boycotts make people stronger and tougher they do not work people adapt and overcome adversity...I welcome boycotts on Israel she will make she needs at home and build up her strength...The first Boycott was in 1880 by Cunningham if I recollect correctly didnt work...

 

[aris2chat]

Tens of thousands of faithful Muslims pack Jerusalem’s al-Aqsa mosque every week. Things have been particularly tense in the holy site this week, after Palestinian terrorists murdered two Israeli police officers last Friday. Israel responded by putting up metal detectors, an act that led thousands of Palestinians to riot and assualt Israeli soldiers with rocks, bottles, and clubs.

What could make folks gathered for prayer so rowdy? Listen in on some of the mosque’s sermons, and the answer becomes painfully obvious.

“The Israelites,” roared Khaled al-Mughrabi, one of al-Aqsa’s top preachers, in the summer of 2015, “have a holiday, Passover. Every holiday, each group would look for a small child. They would kidnap the child, steal him, and put him inside a barrel, called ‘the barrel of nails.’ They would put the small child inside the barrel, and his body would be pierced by the nails. At the bottom of the barrel they would put a faucet, and that faucet would run with the boy’s blood. This is because Satan demanded of them, in return to doing everything they want, that they eat bread kneaded with the blood of children.”

When they’re not ritually slaughtering babes, Mughrabi said on other occasions, the Jews have a full agenda of evil: they’re the real culprits behind the 9/11 attacks, are planning to take over the world, and are actual blood-drinking vampires, which is why the industry they control, Hollywood, loves making so many movies about the Jew Dracula.

Not to be outdone, Ekrima Sa’id Sabri, the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, is fond of using the mosque to talk about one of his favorite topics, the Holocaust. Which, to hear the renowned sheikh tell it, never happened. “Six million Jews dead? No way, they were much fewer,” he told an interviewer. “Let’s stop with this fairytale exploited by Israel to capture international solidarity. It is not my fault if Hitler hated Jews, indeed they were hated a little everywhere.”

Who can free the world of such malicious people as the Jews? Omar Abu-Sarah, another of al-Aqsa’s chief preachers, has a clear idea: ISIS. “I say to the Jews loud and clear: The time for your slaughter has come,” he said in one typical sermon. The time to fight you has come. The time to kill you has come, Allah willing. We are ready for the task, we and the loyal and faithful Muslims, along with the armies of the state of the Islamic Caliphate.”

Other examples of rampant incitement abound. Unless they’re stopped, the likelihood of a bloody conflagration is very high. And stopping them should be the priority not only of Jews but of peaceful Muslims as well, who would likely be appalled if they knew that one of their religion’s holiest sites was being desecrated by deranged bigots who’ve hijacked the pulpit and use it to spread hate.


The Palestinian Mountain of Hate

such lies have been around for some 200 or so years and proven baseless.

Now.........I've witness a palestinain lapping blood in Cairo and Syria soldiers dipping bread in the blood of executed jews

I've the horrific was of killing and massacres. I've seen children trained in executions and warfare.

It is not the jews that have a blood lust.

Jews go through excessive extents to make sure all blood and human part are gathered for burial.

Butchers make sure blood is removed from meat as much as possible by Koshering it.

 

[louie888]

I've witness a palestinain lapping blood in Cairo and Syria soldiers dipping bread in the blood of executed jews

And the bullshit meter explodes!

LOL

 

[aris2chat]

I've witness a palestinain lapping blood in Cairo and Syria soldiers dipping bread in the blood of executed jews

And the bullshit meter explodes!

LOL

I was at the Cairo Sheraton when Wasfi al-Tal was killed

 

[montelatici]

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia...

And the zionist jews creating all the trouble over the last several decades are from Europe.

Next.

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ... You don't see the silliness of your argument...Wasn't there plenty of troubles in most of the Middle East after Arab and Muslim nationalism reemerged...Aren't the Muslims who hold huge tracts of land and countries using their territories to increase control all over the world and yet you point your finger at a small little group in a small little area of the world...Have you ever seem a clam get all irritated by a speck of sand..The clam spends tremendous amounts of energy to make that irritant go away and yet something beautiful comes out of it called a pearl...In order to get to that pearl the clam itself must die is that what you wish for the Arabs to get rid of their irritant little Israel that speck of sand...Israel is the pearl and the Jews have made it out of that little speck of sand the Arabs are helping the Jews build a better pearl and are being shut out by their actions instead of embracing it and enjoying the beauty that that pearl has to offer...

Let's say that if the European Zionists had not colonized Palestine, many problems that have evolved from that colonization would not have evolved. For example, the West (thru association with Britain and the UK) would not be as hated by the Muslims had the West (the British) not facilitated the colonization through force of arms used to prevent the Muslims and Christians from achieving self-determination in palestine.

I do not agree with you there simply because although Christians have lived in many Muslim countries with the rise of fundaMENTAL ideas intolerance of any who are not Muslim is occurring in these countries and the indigenous Christians and other minorities such as Jews etc etc have either been forced out converted or killed...It has nothing to do with the supposed colonization of Israel by so called Europeans ..Tell that to the Hindus who lived in the Hindu Kush and were exterminated or enslaved by the marauding Moslem armies... There are many injustices today by pointing your finger exclusively in one area you are showing tremendous intolerance and deceit...

The attraction of fundamentalism to young Muslims is the image of the West that the fundamentalist leaders can instill on these potential adherents. They point to Israel, as it is the most poignant example of how the West, through force of arms, enabled European Jews to dispossess the Palestinians. It doesn't matter that before the Zionists began arriving they were close to 20% of the population and were the wealthiest of the Palestinians. Many Christians saw the writing on the wall and began leaving in the late 1800s as they had the wealth and connections through the Church in Europe and the Americas.

As far as India, more Muslims as a percentage of the Muslim population were killed by Hindus than the other way around. In East Punjab Muslims killed Hindis and in West Pubjab Hindus killed Muslims. In Delhi, only Muslims were massacred, about 30,000 in less than a week.

Admittidely the Hindu Pandits have left Indian Administered Kashmir in fear of the Muslim majority, however, the Indians kill and torture Muslims on a daily basis. Just read the HRW reports.

I worked for a few years in India and was able to hear eye witness stories about the partition.

 

[montelatici]

I've witness a palestinain lapping blood in Cairo and Syria soldiers dipping bread in the blood of executed jews

And the bullshit meter explodes!

LOL

I was at the Cairo Sheraton when Wasfi al-Tal was killed

Sure you were.

 

[shimon]

Palestine is no more the ancient homeland of European Jews, than it is to European Christians. Converting to a religion does not make one indigenous to the location where the religion was established.

Europeans "bought" less than 10% of the land in Palestine from the Christian and Muslim owners. 90% of the land was owned by Christians and Muslims until 1948, when the Jews stole the land from them.

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia is it not are they not interlopers by your logic as well... If people of Arab descent from Arabia convert to Christian or Muslim religions did they not come in and steal the land from someone previously...Your argument is circular and can be used against you...Land is bought and sold and conquered all the time people are removed justly or unjustly constantly there is not one nation on earth that is not guilty of this by you singling out the Jews only you are showing your true colours...At one time this land belonged to the Jews and they have never not lived there in one form or another by your denying their right their even though many of the Jews are from former Muslim countries where they were kicked out of ... You only point your finger at Jews of European descent what of Jews of Iraqi,Yemeni, Syrian, Egyptian etc etc descent... You sir are showing your true colours..

Arab is a language and culture, not an ethnicity. The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine. They are, for the most past, descendants of the people that lived in the area prior to the Roman conquest who converted to Christianity by choice and by law after the Romans made Christianity the state religion and required all residents of Aelia Capotolini (Jersualem) to be Christians, as it was the major Christian holy city for the Orthodox.

Arab is an analog to Hispanic. An Indio in Mexico speaks Spanish and has adopted many Spanish cultural rituals, including the Catholic religion, but they are not Spanish. Palestinians are not Arabians. the Arabians arrived to rule, they didn't settle.

Even Egyptians are not very Arabian.

View attachment 139901

Tunisians are less Arabian than Ashkenazi Jews, who are 10 % Arabian.

View attachment 139902

The area you call Palestine was considered part of greater Syria no one disputed this fact till Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza and other areas in 67 then low and behold like magic they became Palestinians evenhough jews living in his area were also referred to a Palestinians.... We could play this game all day long... If anything they are descendants of Jews who left Europe such as Maimonides and settled with their congregations in the holy land and were forced to convert to Islam in order to stay on the land but hey that would let the cat out of the bag wouldn't it..There were always Jews living there where did they go did they die .Many of the so called Palestinians know they are descended from Jews but they would be in danger if they let this out wouldn't they therefore it is best for now to keep it quiet. Israel is not going anywhere and her lost flock will RETURN when the time is right whether they be from Europe Asia, the Middle East or North America and South America...

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia...

And the zionist jews creating all the trouble over the last several decades are from Europe.

Next.

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ... You don't see the silliness of your argument...Wasn't there plenty of troubles in most of the Middle East after Arab and Muslim nationalism reemerged...Aren't the Muslims who hold huge tracts of land and countries using their territories to increase control all over the world and yet you point your finger at a small little group in a small little area of the world...Have you ever seem a clam get all irritated by a speck of sand..The clam spends tremendous amounts of energy to make that irritant go away and yet something beautiful comes out of it called a pearl...In order to get to that pearl the clam itself must die is that what you wish for the Arabs to get rid of their irritant little Israel that speck of sand...Israel is the pearl and the Jews have made it out of that little speck of sand the Arabs are helping the Jews build a better pearl and are being shut out by their actions instead of embracing it and enjoying the beauty that that pearl has to offer...

Let's say that if the European Zionists had not colonized Palestine, many problems that have evolved from that colonization would not have evolved. For example, the West (thru association with Britain and the UK) would not be as hated by the Muslims had the West (the British) not facilitated the colonization through force of arms used to prevent the Muslims and Christians from achieving self-determination in palestine.

I do not agree with you there simply because although Christians have lived in many Muslim countries with the rise of fundaMENTAL ideas intolerance of any who are not Muslim is occurring in these countries and the indigenous Christians and other minorities such as Jews etc etc have either been forced out converted or killed...It has nothing to do with the supposed colonization of Israel by so called Europeans ..Tell that to the Hindus who lived in the Hindu Kush and were exterminated or enslaved by the marauding Moslem armies... There are many injustices today by pointing your finger exclusively in one area you are showing tremendous intolerance and deceit...

The attraction of fundamentalism to young Muslims is the image of the West that the fundamentalist leaders can instill on these potential adherents. They point to Israel, as it is the most poignant example of how the West, through force of arms, enabled European Jews to dispossess the Palestinians. It doesn't matter that before the Zionists began arriving they were close to 20% of the population and were the wealthiest of the Palestinians. Many Christians saw the writing on the wall and began leaving in the late 1800s as they had the wealth and connections through the Church in Europe and the Americas.

As far as India, more Muslims as a percentage of the Muslim population were killed by Hindus than the other way around. In East Punjab Muslims killed Hindis and in West Pubjab Hindus killed Muslims. In Delhi, only Muslims were massacred, about 30,000 in less than a week.

Admittidely the Hindu Pandits have left Indian Administered Kashmir in fear of the Muslim majority, however, the Indians kill and torture Muslims on a daily basis. Just read the HRW reports.

I worked for a few years in India and was able to hear eye witness stories about the partition.

Your interpretation about what happened in the Hindu Kush and other areas of India is interesting but certainly not factual...I always find it fascinating how Islam spread so fast and into many many areas of the globe why it is almost like playing the board game Risk where areas were quickly over run and all were given the choice of convert or die that could explain the huge numbers of Hindus that are now Muslim today living in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh to name a few... Tell me how do you explain that most of the population of Pakistan is now almost Muslim as well as in Bangladesh what happened to their minority populations did they leave volentarily or were they forced to leave, convert or killed...As for your pointing out that the so called European Jews dispossessed the so called Palestinians I find this humorous as the facts do not speak out that way as most of so called Palestine is still in the hands of so called Palestinians...The part Israeli Jews live in is a sliver of that original land....If a pie is a certain size and 90 percent of it is in the hands of the Arabs still how is it that that 10 per cent is dispossessing..Just how much of that pie will make those Arabs happy ... And of course we know the answer all of it because even though they don't eat pig they are still Wanting it all...Just like they covet the rest of the world as all because once a land goes Islamic it is always considered Islamic and must be reconquered....

 

[montelatici]

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ...

One down.

There was a song written about you Louie in the 70's It is titled something like Louie Are you gonna Cry? Or something thereabouts... Why are you shrilly Crying about Little Israel what is your motivation to be pointing your finger in their direction all the time...Is this the only injustice you see if that is the case you better take your Blinders " DOWN " because it is you that will be going DOWN with the ship not I....

While small in size, siding with her has brought hatred from the rest of the world, let alone, her agents wield too much power in America and they are destroying our freedoms here from within...

The US is about to make it a felony to support BDS! No, I'm not making this up!

Boycotts make people stronger and tougher they do not work people adapt and overcome adversity...I welcome boycotts on Israel she will make she needs at home and build up her strength...The first Boycott was in 1880 by Cunningham if I recollect correctly didnt work...

The white South Africans and the white Rhodesians did not have the same experience.

 

[montelatici]

Palestine is no more the ancient homeland of European Jews, than it is to European Christians. Converting to a religion does not make one indigenous to the location where the religion was established.

Europeans "bought" less than 10% of the land in Palestine from the Christian and Muslim owners. 90% of the land was owned by Christians and Muslims until 1948, when the Jews stole the land from them.

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia is it not are they not interlopers by your logic as well... If people of Arab descent from Arabia convert to Christian or Muslim religions did they not come in and steal the land from someone previously...Your argument is circular and can be used against you...Land is bought and sold and conquered all the time people are removed justly or unjustly constantly there is not one nation on earth that is not guilty of this by you singling out the Jews only you are showing your true colours...At one time this land belonged to the Jews and they have never not lived there in one form or another by your denying their right their even though many of the Jews are from former Muslim countries where they were kicked out of ... You only point your finger at Jews of European descent what of Jews of Iraqi,Yemeni, Syrian, Egyptian etc etc descent... You sir are showing your true colours..

Arab is a language and culture, not an ethnicity. The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine. They are, for the most past, descendants of the people that lived in the area prior to the Roman conquest who converted to Christianity by choice and by law after the Romans made Christianity the state religion and required all residents of Aelia Capotolini (Jersualem) to be Christians, as it was the major Christian holy city for the Orthodox.

Arab is an analog to Hispanic. An Indio in Mexico speaks Spanish and has adopted many Spanish cultural rituals, including the Catholic religion, but they are not Spanish. Palestinians are not Arabians. the Arabians arrived to rule, they didn't settle.

Even Egyptians are not very Arabian.

View attachment 139901

Tunisians are less Arabian than Ashkenazi Jews, who are 10 % Arabian.

View attachment 139902

The area you call Palestine was considered part of greater Syria no one disputed this fact till Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza and other areas in 67 then low and behold like magic they became Palestinians evenhough jews living in his area were also referred to a Palestinians.... We could play this game all day long... If anything they are descendants of Jews who left Europe such as Maimonides and settled with their congregations in the holy land and were forced to convert to Islam in order to stay on the land but hey that would let the cat out of the bag wouldn't it..There were always Jews living there where did they go did they die .Many of the so called Palestinians know they are descended from Jews but they would be in danger if they let this out wouldn't they therefore it is best for now to keep it quiet. Israel is not going anywhere and her lost flock will RETURN when the time is right whether they be from Europe Asia, the Middle East or North America and South America...

And the zionist jews creating all the trouble over the last several decades are from Europe.

Next.

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ... You don't see the silliness of your argument...Wasn't there plenty of troubles in most of the Middle East after Arab and Muslim nationalism reemerged...Aren't the Muslims who hold huge tracts of land and countries using their territories to increase control all over the world and yet you point your finger at a small little group in a small little area of the world...Have you ever seem a clam get all irritated by a speck of sand..The clam spends tremendous amounts of energy to make that irritant go away and yet something beautiful comes out of it called a pearl...In order to get to that pearl the clam itself must die is that what you wish for the Arabs to get rid of their irritant little Israel that speck of sand...Israel is the pearl and the Jews have made it out of that little speck of sand the Arabs are helping the Jews build a better pearl and are being shut out by their actions instead of embracing it and enjoying the beauty that that pearl has to offer...

Let's say that if the European Zionists had not colonized Palestine, many problems that have evolved from that colonization would not have evolved. For example, the West (thru association with Britain and the UK) would not be as hated by the Muslims had the West (the British) not facilitated the colonization through force of arms used to prevent the Muslims and Christians from achieving self-determination in palestine.

I do not agree with you there simply because although Christians have lived in many Muslim countries with the rise of fundaMENTAL ideas intolerance of any who are not Muslim is occurring in these countries and the indigenous Christians and other minorities such as Jews etc etc have either been forced out converted or killed...It has nothing to do with the supposed colonization of Israel by so called Europeans ..Tell that to the Hindus who lived in the Hindu Kush and were exterminated or enslaved by the marauding Moslem armies... There are many injustices today by pointing your finger exclusively in one area you are showing tremendous intolerance and deceit...

The attraction of fundamentalism to young Muslims is the image of the West that the fundamentalist leaders can instill on these potential adherents. They point to Israel, as it is the most poignant example of how the West, through force of arms, enabled European Jews to dispossess the Palestinians. It doesn't matter that before the Zionists began arriving they were close to 20% of the population and were the wealthiest of the Palestinians. Many Christians saw the writing on the wall and began leaving in the late 1800s as they had the wealth and connections through the Church in Europe and the Americas.

As far as India, more Muslims as a percentage of the Muslim population were killed by Hindus than the other way around. In East Punjab Muslims killed Hindis and in West Pubjab Hindus killed Muslims. In Delhi, only Muslims were massacred, about 30,000 in less than a week.

Admittidely the Hindu Pandits have left Indian Administered Kashmir in fear of the Muslim majority, however, the Indians kill and torture Muslims on a daily basis. Just read the HRW reports.

I worked for a few years in India and was able to hear eye witness stories about the partition.

Your interpretation about what happened in the Hindu Kush and other areas of India is interesting but certainly not factual...I always find it fascinating how Islam spread so fast and into many many areas of the globe why it is almost like playing the board game Risk where areas were quickly over run and all were given the choice of convert or die that could explain the huge numbers of Hindus that are now Muslim today living in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh to name a few... Tell me how do you explain that most of the population of Pakistan is now almost Muslim as well as in Bangladesh what happened to their minority populations did they leave volentarily or were they forced to leave, convert or killed...As for your pointing out that the so called European Jews dispossessed the so called Palestinians I find this humorous as the facts do not speak out that way as most of so called Palestine is still in the hands of so called Palestinians...The part Israeli Jews live in is a sliver of that original land....If a pie is a certain size and 90 percent of it is in the hands of the Arabs still how is it that that 10 per cent is dispossessing..Just how much of that pie will make those Arabs happy ... And of course we know the answer all of it because even though they don't eat pig they are still Wanting it all...Just like they covet the rest of the world as all because once a land goes Islamic it is always considered Islamic and must be reconquered....

Well, you can read about the partition of India, and you will see that I have stated fact. The reason that there are few Hindus in Pakistan and in what is now Bangladesh, fomerly East Pakistan, is because there was a bloody population swap. Muslims in what is now India fled east and west just as the Hindus in what is now Pakistan fled east and Hindus in what is now Bangladesh fled west. Very simple.

As far as the "so-called" Palestinians. That's an old Zionist canard. The Palestinians considered themselves thus before the Muslim conquests. There are writings about the Palestinian martyrs, those Christians murdered by Jews and Romans before Rome established Christianity as the state religion. It's Italian, one has to do research before making silly claims, as you have.

Martiri palestinesi nell’Occidente latino. I casi della Passio Theodosiae virginis (BHL 8090) e della Passio Romani monachi(BHL 7298)

Martiri palestinesi nell’Occidente latino. I casi della Passio Theo...

And, the Palestinians considered themselves the Palestinian People when trying to negotiate their independence and self determination in 1921-1922

"PALESTINE.

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:




PUBLISHED BY HIS MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE.
To be purchased directly from H.M. STATIONERY OFFICE, at the
following address:
Adastra House, Kingsway, London, W.C. 2; 120, George Street, Edinburgh:
York Street, Manchester; 1, St. Andre's Crescent, Cardiff;
15, Donegall Square West, Belfast; or through any Bookseller


1922.


Sir,

We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.

• 
  
  We would, therefore, submit the following observations:—

Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.
If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

You seem to be a clever fellow. Why don't you do some research before just parotting Hasbara propaganda that has no basis in fact.

 

[aris2chat]

Palestine is no more the ancient homeland of European Jews, than it is to European Christians. Converting to a religion does not make one indigenous to the location where the religion was established.

Europeans "bought" less than 10% of the land in Palestine from the Christian and Muslim owners. 90% of the land was owned by Christians and Muslims until 1948, when the Jews stole the land from them.

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia is it not are they not interlopers by your logic as well... If people of Arab descent from Arabia convert to Christian or Muslim religions did they not come in and steal the land from someone previously...Your argument is circular and can be used against you...Land is bought and sold and conquered all the time people are removed justly or unjustly constantly there is not one nation on earth that is not guilty of this by you singling out the Jews only you are showing your true colours...At one time this land belonged to the Jews and they have never not lived there in one form or another by your denying their right their even though many of the Jews are from former Muslim countries where they were kicked out of ... You only point your finger at Jews of European descent what of Jews of Iraqi,Yemeni, Syrian, Egyptian etc etc descent... You sir are showing your true colours..

Arab is a language and culture, not an ethnicity. The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine. They are, for the most past, descendants of the people that lived in the area prior to the Roman conquest who converted to Christianity by choice and by law after the Romans made Christianity the state religion and required all residents of Aelia Capotolini (Jersualem) to be Christians, as it was the major Christian holy city for the Orthodox.

Arab is an analog to Hispanic. An Indio in Mexico speaks Spanish and has adopted many Spanish cultural rituals, including the Catholic religion, but they are not Spanish. Palestinians are not Arabians. the Arabians arrived to rule, they didn't settle.

Even Egyptians are not very Arabian.

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Tunisians are less Arabian than Ashkenazi Jews, who are 10 % Arabian.

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The area you call Palestine was considered part of greater Syria no one disputed this fact till Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza and other areas in 67 then low and behold like magic they became Palestinians evenhough jews living in his area were also referred to a Palestinians.... We could play this game all day long... If anything they are descendants of Jews who left Europe such as Maimonides and settled with their congregations in the holy land and were forced to convert to Islam in order to stay on the land but hey that would let the cat out of the bag wouldn't it..There were always Jews living there where did they go did they die .Many of the so called Palestinians know they are descended from Jews but they would be in danger if they let this out wouldn't they therefore it is best for now to keep it quiet. Israel is not going anywhere and her lost flock will RETURN when the time is right whether they be from Europe Asia, the Middle East or North America and South America...

And the zionist jews creating all the trouble over the last several decades are from Europe.

Next.

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ... You don't see the silliness of your argument...Wasn't there plenty of troubles in most of the Middle East after Arab and Muslim nationalism reemerged...Aren't the Muslims who hold huge tracts of land and countries using their territories to increase control all over the world and yet you point your finger at a small little group in a small little area of the world...Have you ever seem a clam get all irritated by a speck of sand..The clam spends tremendous amounts of energy to make that irritant go away and yet something beautiful comes out of it called a pearl...In order to get to that pearl the clam itself must die is that what you wish for the Arabs to get rid of their irritant little Israel that speck of sand...Israel is the pearl and the Jews have made it out of that little speck of sand the Arabs are helping the Jews build a better pearl and are being shut out by their actions instead of embracing it and enjoying the beauty that that pearl has to offer...

Let's say that if the European Zionists had not colonized Palestine, many problems that have evolved from that colonization would not have evolved. For example, the West (thru association with Britain and the UK) would not be as hated by the Muslims had the West (the British) not facilitated the colonization through force of arms used to prevent the Muslims and Christians from achieving self-determination in palestine.

I do not agree with you there simply because although Christians have lived in many Muslim countries with the rise of fundaMENTAL ideas intolerance of any who are not Muslim is occurring in these countries and the indigenous Christians and other minorities such as Jews etc etc have either been forced out converted or killed...It has nothing to do with the supposed colonization of Israel by so called Europeans ..Tell that to the Hindus who lived in the Hindu Kush and were exterminated or enslaved by the marauding Moslem armies... There are many injustices today by pointing your finger exclusively in one area you are showing tremendous intolerance and deceit...

The attraction of fundamentalism to young Muslims is the image of the West that the fundamentalist leaders can instill on these potential adherents. They point to Israel, as it is the most poignant example of how the West, through force of arms, enabled European Jews to dispossess the Palestinians. It doesn't matter that before the Zionists began arriving they were close to 20% of the population and were the wealthiest of the Palestinians. Many Christians saw the writing on the wall and began leaving in the late 1800s as they had the wealth and connections through the Church in Europe and the Americas.

As far as India, more Muslims as a percentage of the Muslim population were killed by Hindus than the other way around. In East Punjab Muslims killed Hindis and in West Pubjab Hindus killed Muslims. In Delhi, only Muslims were massacred, about 30,000 in less than a week.

Admittidely the Hindu Pandits have left Indian Administered Kashmir in fear of the Muslim majority, however, the Indians kill and torture Muslims on a daily basis. Just read the HRW reports.

I worked for a few years in India and was able to hear eye witness stories about the partition.

Your interpretation about what happened in the Hindu Kush and other areas of India is interesting but certainly not factual...I always find it fascinating how Islam spread so fast and into many many areas of the globe why it is almost like playing the board game Risk where areas were quickly over run and all were given the choice of convert or die that could explain the huge numbers of Hindus that are now Muslim today living in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh to name a few... Tell me how do you explain that most of the population of Pakistan is now almost Muslim as well as in Bangladesh what happened to their minority populations did they leave volentarily or were they forced to leave, convert or killed...As for your pointing out that the so called European Jews dispossessed the so called Palestinians I find this humorous as the facts do not speak out that way as most of so called Palestine is still in the hands of so called Palestinians...The part Israeli Jews live in is a sliver of that original land....If a pie is a certain size and 90 percent of it is in the hands of the Arabs still how is it that that 10 per cent is dispossessing..Just how much of that pie will make those Arabs happy ... And of course we know the answer all of it because even though they don't eat pig they are still Wanting it all...Just like they covet the rest of the world as all because once a land goes Islamic it is always considered Islamic and must be reconquered....

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews | Dov Ivry | The Blogs ...
blogs.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-are-descendants-of-jews/
Aug 21, 2016 - The DNA findings back this up. The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup.

 

[aris2chat]

Shavei Israel | Do the Palestinians have Jewish Roots?
Do the Palestinians have Jewish Roots?
Jun 5, 2016 - He claims that nearly 90 percent of all Palestinians aredescended from Jews who remained in Israel after the destruction of Second Temple ...

 

[louie888]

The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup.

Yes, as has been explained. Whatever Jews were left in 300 AD converted to Christianity, and then many of them became Muslims.

 

[Hollie]

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ...

One down.

There was a song written about you Louie in the 70's It is titled something like Louie Are you gonna Cry? Or something thereabouts... Why are you shrilly Crying about Little Israel what is your motivation to be pointing your finger in their direction all the time...Is this the only injustice you see if that is the case you better take your Blinders " DOWN " because it is you that will be going DOWN with the ship not I....

While small in size, siding with her has brought hatred from the rest of the world, let alone, her agents wield too much power in America and they are destroying our freedoms here from within...

The US is about to make it a felony to support BDS! No, I'm not making this up!

Boycotts make people stronger and tougher they do not work people adapt and overcome adversity...I welcome boycotts on Israel she will make she needs at home and build up her strength...The first Boycott was in 1880 by Cunningham if I recollect correctly didnt work...

The white South Africans and the white Rhodesians did not have the same experience.

Neither did the Christians who were purged from your Islamic paradises.

 

[aris2chat]

Most Palestinians in Judea & Samaria were formerly Jews The Jewish ...
www.jewishpress.com › InDepth › Analysis
Jan 6, 2015 - He proclaimed: “Most of the Palestinians in Judea and Samaria are former Jews. ... The entire towns around us used a Jewishjudge known as Khawaja ..... They are, as you say, descendants of Arabs from the countries ...


Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been ...
www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/native.html
Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly ... In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the ..

 

[Hollie]

The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup.

Yes, as has been explained. Whatever Jews were left in 300 AD converted to Christianity, and then many of them became Muslims.

Can you plagiarize the comments of others and post it here?

 

[Roudy]

Palestine is no more the ancient homeland of European Jews, than it is to European Christians. Converting to a religion does not make one indigenous to the location where the religion was established.

Europeans "bought" less than 10% of the land in Palestine from the Christian and Muslim owners. 90% of the land was owned by Christians and Muslims until 1948, when the Jews stole the land from them.

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia is it not are they not interlopers by your logic as well... If people of Arab descent from Arabia convert to Christian or Muslim religions did they not come in and steal the land from someone previously...Your argument is circular and can be used against you...Land is bought and sold and conquered all the time people are removed justly or unjustly constantly there is not one nation on earth that is not guilty of this by you singling out the Jews only you are showing your true colours...At one time this land belonged to the Jews and they have never not lived there in one form or another by your denying their right their even though many of the Jews are from former Muslim countries where they were kicked out of ... You only point your finger at Jews of European descent what of Jews of Iraqi,Yemeni, Syrian, Egyptian etc etc descent... You sir are showing your true colours..

Arab is a language and culture, not an ethnicity. The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine. They are, for the most past, descendants of the people that lived in the area prior to the Roman conquest who converted to Christianity by choice and by law after the Romans made Christianity the state religion and required all residents of Aelia Capotolini (Jersualem) to be Christians, as it was the major Christian holy city for the Orthodox.

Arab is an analog to Hispanic. An Indio in Mexico speaks Spanish and has adopted many Spanish cultural rituals, including the Catholic religion, but they are not Spanish. Palestinians are not Arabians. the Arabians arrived to rule, they didn't settle.

Even Egyptians are not very Arabian.

View attachment 139901

Tunisians are less Arabian than Ashkenazi Jews, who are 10 % Arabian.

View attachment 139902

The area you call Palestine was considered part of greater Syria no one disputed this fact till Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza and other areas in 67 then low and behold like magic they became Palestinians evenhough jews living in his area were also referred to a Palestinians.... We could play this game all day long... If anything they are descendants of Jews who left Europe such as Maimonides and settled with their congregations in the holy land and were forced to convert to Islam in order to stay on the land but hey that would let the cat out of the bag wouldn't it..There were always Jews living there where did they go did they die .Many of the so called Palestinians know they are descended from Jews but they would be in danger if they let this out wouldn't they therefore it is best for now to keep it quiet. Israel is not going anywhere and her lost flock will RETURN when the time is right whether they be from Europe Asia, the Middle East or North America and South America...

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ... You don't see the silliness of your argument...Wasn't there plenty of troubles in most of the Middle East after Arab and Muslim nationalism reemerged...Aren't the Muslims who hold huge tracts of land and countries using their territories to increase control all over the world and yet you point your finger at a small little group in a small little area of the world...Have you ever seem a clam get all irritated by a speck of sand..The clam spends tremendous amounts of energy to make that irritant go away and yet something beautiful comes out of it called a pearl...In order to get to that pearl the clam itself must die is that what you wish for the Arabs to get rid of their irritant little Israel that speck of sand...Israel is the pearl and the Jews have made it out of that little speck of sand the Arabs are helping the Jews build a better pearl and are being shut out by their actions instead of embracing it and enjoying the beauty that that pearl has to offer...

Let's say that if the European Zionists had not colonized Palestine, many problems that have evolved from that colonization would not have evolved. For example, the West (thru association with Britain and the UK) would not be as hated by the Muslims had the West (the British) not facilitated the colonization through force of arms used to prevent the Muslims and Christians from achieving self-determination in palestine.

I do not agree with you there simply because although Christians have lived in many Muslim countries with the rise of fundaMENTAL ideas intolerance of any who are not Muslim is occurring in these countries and the indigenous Christians and other minorities such as Jews etc etc have either been forced out converted or killed...It has nothing to do with the supposed colonization of Israel by so called Europeans ..Tell that to the Hindus who lived in the Hindu Kush and were exterminated or enslaved by the marauding Moslem armies... There are many injustices today by pointing your finger exclusively in one area you are showing tremendous intolerance and deceit...

The attraction of fundamentalism to young Muslims is the image of the West that the fundamentalist leaders can instill on these potential adherents. They point to Israel, as it is the most poignant example of how the West, through force of arms, enabled European Jews to dispossess the Palestinians. It doesn't matter that before the Zionists began arriving they were close to 20% of the population and were the wealthiest of the Palestinians. Many Christians saw the writing on the wall and began leaving in the late 1800s as they had the wealth and connections through the Church in Europe and the Americas.

As far as India, more Muslims as a percentage of the Muslim population were killed by Hindus than the other way around. In East Punjab Muslims killed Hindis and in West Pubjab Hindus killed Muslims. In Delhi, only Muslims were massacred, about 30,000 in less than a week.

Admittidely the Hindu Pandits have left Indian Administered Kashmir in fear of the Muslim majority, however, the Indians kill and torture Muslims on a daily basis. Just read the HRW reports.

I worked for a few years in India and was able to hear eye witness stories about the partition.

Your interpretation about what happened in the Hindu Kush and other areas of India is interesting but certainly not factual...I always find it fascinating how Islam spread so fast and into many many areas of the globe why it is almost like playing the board game Risk where areas were quickly over run and all were given the choice of convert or die that could explain the huge numbers of Hindus that are now Muslim today living in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh to name a few... Tell me how do you explain that most of the population of Pakistan is now almost Muslim as well as in Bangladesh what happened to their minority populations did they leave volentarily or were they forced to leave, convert or killed...As for your pointing out that the so called European Jews dispossessed the so called Palestinians I find this humorous as the facts do not speak out that way as most of so called Palestine is still in the hands of so called Palestinians...The part Israeli Jews live in is a sliver of that original land....If a pie is a certain size and 90 percent of it is in the hands of the Arabs still how is it that that 10 per cent is dispossessing..Just how much of that pie will make those Arabs happy ... And of course we know the answer all of it because even though they don't eat pig they are still Wanting it all...Just like they covet the rest of the world as all because once a land goes Islamic it is always considered Islamic and must be reconquered....

Well, you can read about the partition of India, and you will see that I have stated fact. The reason that there are few Hindus in Pakistan and in what is now Bangladesh, fomerly East Pakistan, is because there was a bloody population swap. Muslims in what is now India fled east and west just as the Hindus in what is now Pakistan fled east and Hindus in what is now Bangladesh fled west. Very simple.

As far as the "so-called" Palestinians. That's an old Zionist canard. The Palestinians considered themselves thus before the Muslim conquests. There are writings about the Palestinian martyrs, those Christians murdered by Jews and Romans before Rome established Christianity as the state religion. It's Italian, one has to do research before making silly claims, as you have.

Martiri palestinesi nell’Occidente latino. I casi della Passio Theodosiae virginis (BHL 8090) e della Passio Romani monachi(BHL 7298)

Martiri palestinesi nell’Occidente latino. I casi della Passio Theo...

And, the Palestinians considered themselves the Palestinian People when trying to negotiate their independence and self determination in 1921-1922

"PALESTINE.

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:




PUBLISHED BY HIS MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE.
To be purchased directly from H.M. STATIONERY OFFICE, at the
following address:
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1922.


Sir,

We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.

• 
  
  We would, therefore, submit the following observations:—

Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.
If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

You seem to be a clever fellow. Why don't you do some research before just parotting Hasbara propaganda that has no basis in fact.

Yawn, again with the crap. He posts a European reference to it. Ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

If the Palestinians are of Arab descent as they contend then their original homeland is Arabia...

And the zionist jews creating all the trouble over the last several decades are from Europe.

Next.

Oh I see I stand corrected then...Zionist Jews are causing all the troubles all over ...Not Arabizized Muslims ... You don't see the silliness of your argument...Wasn't there plenty of troubles in most of the Middle East after Arab and Muslim nationalism reemerged...Aren't the Muslims who hold huge tracts of land and countries using their territories to increase control all over the world and yet you point your finger at a small little group in a small little area of the world...Have you ever seem a clam get all irritated by a speck of sand..The clam spends tremendous amounts of energy to make that irritant go away and yet something beautiful comes out of it called a pearl...In order to get to that pearl the clam itself must die is that what you wish for the Arabs to get rid of their irritant little Israel that speck of sand...Israel is the pearl and the Jews have made it out of that little speck of sand the Arabs are helping the Jews build a better pearl and are being shut out by their actions instead of embracing it and enjoying the beauty that that pearl has to offer...

Let's say that if the European Zionists had not colonized Palestine, many problems that have evolved from that colonization would not have evolved. For example, the West (thru association with Britain and the UK) would not be as hated by the Muslims had the West (the British) not facilitated the colonization through force of arms used to prevent the Muslims and Christians from achieving self-determination in palestine.

Yeah, because Arab Muslims never oppressed and persecuted Jews prior to Israel, they never invaded, looted, killed raped or forced their religion, culture, and language down people's throats at the point of a sword either. It's all because of Israel or the Jews. Now take you meds and go to your white padded room.