temple mount

[aris2chat]

Most muslims are praying outside at the base of the mount.
A few are entering and praying on the mount.

Palestinians are only hurting themselves. Nothing says they have to pray in a mosque. Other muslims around the world go through metal detectors to pray regularly, even in Mecca.

If muslims don't want to pray on the mount, I'm sure jews and christian will want to.

I think all should pray there if they want, regardless of faith.

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world. Terrorist have made them a necessity.

 

[louie888]

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world.

Funny, until the Europeans stole Palestine, metal detectors where needed nowhere.

 

[Hossfly]

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world.

Funny, until the Europeans stole Palestine, metal detectors where needed nowhere.

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[CMike]

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world.

Funny, until the Europeans stole Palestine, metal detectors where needed nowhere.

You mean from the Ottoman Empire, the Romans, the Babylonians, or the Jews

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Most muslims are praying outside at the base of the mount.
A few are entering and praying on the mount.

Palestinians are only hurting themselves. Nothing says they have to pray in a mosque. Other muslims around the world go through metal detectors to pray regularly, even in Mecca.

If muslims don't want to pray on the mount, I'm sure jews and christian will want to.

I think all should pray there if they want, regardless of faith.

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world. Terrorist have made them a necessity.

If there are metal detectors in Mecca and the Vatican, why not the Temple Mount? Why the big fuss?

 

[ProudVeteran76]

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world.

Funny, until the Europeans stole Palestine, metal detectors where needed nowhere.

The above is a slip of the tongue; " type" He is admitting that the Arabs are capable of shooting and killing any Non Muslim who " dares" to go there

 

[BlackFlag]

The world would be better off if the "temple mount" were demolished. Religious madness should not be encouraged.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The world would be better off if the "temple mount" were demolished. Religious madness should not be encouraged.

Are you suggesting that the Vatican, the place in Mecca, Buddhist Temples, and every other religious places be demolished?

It then goes to follow, that every Synagogue, Church and Mosque, plus Hindu, Buddhist, and other houses of worship should be destroyed, banned from being built.

But you are referring only to the Holiest site in Judaism, which the Muslim are attempting to deny the Jewish People, as well as all Jerusalem, and the rest of the Jewish Homeland.

You are not aware of the issues, therefore "destroying" a site holy mostly to Jews.....is an acceptable step for you.

You are not aware of 1300 years of Jews being oppressed by the Muslims on their own Ancient Homeland, and the Muslims never, ever caring for Jerusalem, the Temple Mount or any other Jewish Holy Site during that time.

You do not seem to be aware that it was only after the Jews achieved sovereignty over a small part of their homeland, that the Muslims began to call Jerusalem and the Temple Mount "the third holiest site in Islam", in order to take it away from the Jews.

Now, do you have something substantial to provide as a solution to the issue for possible discussion?

 

[montelatici]

There is no conflict about who can go to the Vatican.

There were no Jews to oppress in Palestine for 1,300 years. The Muslims oppressed the Christian inhabitants after they conquered Christian Palestine, until most Christians converted to Islam. In fact, Jews were able to visit Jerusalem only after the Muslims conquered Palestine. Under Roman rule, Jews were not permitted to enter Aelia Capitolina (Roman name of Jerusalem), as it was the most important Christian Holy Site at the time.

The Jews began their invasion from Europe in the mid 1800s.

 

[Sixties Fan]

There is no conflict about who can go to the Vatican.

There were no Jews to oppress in Palestine for 1,300 years. The Muslims oppressed the Christian inhabitants after they conquered Christian Palestine, until most Christians converted to Islam. In fact, Jews were able to visit Jerusalem only after the Muslims conquered Palestine. Under Roman rule, Jews were not permitted to enter Aelia Capitolina (Roman name of Jerusalem), as it was the most important Christian Holy Site at the time.

The Jews began their invasion from Europe in the mid 1800s.

LOL, there were no Jews to oppress 1300 years ago, BUT the Muslims allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem After the Muslim conquest.
Where could those Jews have come from???
How many?
Do you have any more information about it?

Where are the documents, records of there not being ONE Jew in Roman renamed Palestine in the 7th Century when the Kurdish Muslims defeated the Byzantine, or when the second wave, Arab Muslims came into the land and allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem?

 

[BlackFlag]

Are you suggesting that the Vatican, the place in Mecca, Buddhist Temples, and every other religious places be demolished?

It then goes to follow, that every Synagogue, Church and Mosque, plus Hindu, Buddhist, and other houses of worship should be destroyed, banned from being built.

Is anybody killing each other and destabilizing the world over those other religious places?

Houses of worship can be built anywhere. This is not one of those. The Mount is the ruins of the foundation of a building, and because a bunch of people think it's magical they've slaughtered each other over multiple millenia. Obliterating it would be a mercy to them.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Are you suggesting that the Vatican, the place in Mecca, Buddhist Temples, and every other religious places be demolished?

It then goes to follow, that every Synagogue, Church and Mosque, plus Hindu, Buddhist, and other houses of worship should be destroyed, banned from being built.

Is anybody killing each other and destabilizing the world over those other religious places?

Houses of worship can be built anywhere. This is not one of those. The Mount is the ruins of the foundation of a building, and because a bunch of people think it's magical they've slaughtered each other over multiple millenia. Obliterating it would be a mercy to them.

Of course you do not know what the history of the place is.
Of course you do not know what the aim of Islam, and of Christianity have been for the past 1700 years.

As you do not know what their goal is, it does not matter to you if the Jews fight, like any other indigenous people in the world, for the right to what is theirs.

What is the Muslim final goal for Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, the Cave of the Patriarchs and all the other Jewish holy sites, AND what is now Israel?

It does not matter to you and all others who are ignorant of facts and were taught not to care about Jews or Judaism.

This is not about you being "concerned" about people being murdered. Not at all.

You are way too ignorant to know what it is that you are truly concerned about, in comparison to all other people attempting to take away, or already have taken away from other people what they want for themselves.

Tibet
Western Sahara
North of Cyprus
Crimea and Ukraine

All unimportant to all who wish to focus on the most BSed cause in the world which has been turned upside down since the Jews managed to become legally sovereign of a small part of their ancient homeland.

Thanks for not caring.

 

[montelatici]

The Jews were in Europe and invaded Palestine. How can Europeans whose ancestors converted to a religion that originated in the Middle East be indigenous to somewhere in the Middle East? With your logic every Christian is indigenous to the Middle East. You just don't get it, do you.

 

[Hollie]

Actually, the Jewish people never invaded the Turkish controlled land area called Pal'istan or your mythical, invented "country of Pal'istan".

It's a shame you are so profoundly ignorant of history.

 

[BlackFlag]

Are you suggesting that the Vatican, the place in Mecca, Buddhist Temples, and every other religious places be demolished?

It then goes to follow, that every Synagogue, Church and Mosque, plus Hindu, Buddhist, and other houses of worship should be destroyed, banned from being built.

Is anybody killing each other and destabilizing the world over those other religious places?

Houses of worship can be built anywhere. This is not one of those. The Mount is the ruins of the foundation of a building, and because a bunch of people think it's magical they've slaughtered each other over multiple millenia. Obliterating it would be a mercy to them.

Of course you do not know what the history of the place is.
Of course you do not know what the aim of Islam, and of Christianity have been for the past 1700 years.

As you do not know what their goal is, it does not matter to you if the Jews fight, like any other indigenous people in the world, for the right to what is theirs.

What is the Muslim final goal for Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, the Cave of the Patriarchs and all the other Jewish holy sites, AND what is now Israel?

It does not matter to you and all others who are ignorant of facts and were taught not to care about Jews or Judaism.

This is not about you being "concerned" about people being murdered. Not at all.

You are way too ignorant to know what it is that you are truly concerned about, in comparison to all other people attempting to take away, or already have taken away from other people what they want for themselves.

Tibet
Western Sahara
North of Cyprus
Crimea and Ukraine

All unimportant to all who wish to focus on the most BSed cause in the world which has been turned upside down since the Jews managed to become legally sovereign of a small part of their ancient homeland.

Thanks for not caring.

How can I not care? Because of a bunch of magical beliefs, my country has been in an endless war in the wastelands of the Middle East for decades. People in my country have been slaughtered, and my country has slaughtered a bunch of people because groups of people with magical beliefs claim some insignificant ruins are theirs. Because some magical being gave it to them.

You say I'm ignorant of people taking away from others what they want for themselves? Every square foot of land on the planet has been conquered multiple times by people who wanted what was not theirs. These magical ruins are not special. If taking them away stops the violence, then it's worth it. When 2 kids are fighting over a toy, you take it from them. Especially if they're trying to kill each other over it.

 

[louie888]

Actually, the Jewish people never invaded the Turkish controlled land area called Pal'istan or your mythical, invented "country of Pal'istan".

It's a shame you are so profoundly ignorant of history.

Actually, they did and almost exterminated the entire native population in the process.

Since they don't teach you people history at your temple, allow me to lend a hand.

...the ethnic cleansing was put into effect through systematic expulsions of about 500 Arab villages, as well as terrorist attacks executed mainly by members of the Irgun and Haganah troops against the civilian population.
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Wikipedia

 

[Hollie]

Actually, the Jewish people never invaded the Turkish controlled land area called Pal'istan or your mythical, invented "country of Pal'istan".

It's a shame you are so profoundly ignorant of history.

Actually, they did and almost exterminated the entire native population in the process.

Since they don't teach you people history at your temple, allow me to lend a hand.

...the ethnic cleansing was put into effect through systematic expulsions of about 500 Arab villages, as well as terrorist attacks executed mainly by members of the Irgun and Haganah troops against the civilian population.
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Wikipedia

Actually, you're wrong, Habib.

You can't use illiteracy as an excuse.

 

[aris2chat]

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world.

Funny, until the Europeans stole Palestine, metal detectors where needed nowhere.

Ottomans invited jews to move to the sanjuk of Jerusalem and Nablus in 1839. Metal detectors were not made commercially till 1931, and those were the kind for finding coins not guns.

You are a pip

 

[Sixties Fan]

Are you suggesting that the Vatican, the place in Mecca, Buddhist Temples, and every other religious places be demolished?

It then goes to follow, that every Synagogue, Church and Mosque, plus Hindu, Buddhist, and other houses of worship should be destroyed, banned from being built.

Is anybody killing each other and destabilizing the world over those other religious places?

Houses of worship can be built anywhere. This is not one of those. The Mount is the ruins of the foundation of a building, and because a bunch of people think it's magical they've slaughtered each other over multiple millenia. Obliterating it would be a mercy to them.

Of course you do not know what the history of the place is.
Of course you do not know what the aim of Islam, and of Christianity have been for the past 1700 years.

As you do not know what their goal is, it does not matter to you if the Jews fight, like any other indigenous people in the world, for the right to what is theirs.

What is the Muslim final goal for Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, the Cave of the Patriarchs and all the other Jewish holy sites, AND what is now Israel?

It does not matter to you and all others who are ignorant of facts and were taught not to care about Jews or Judaism.

This is not about you being "concerned" about people being murdered. Not at all.

You are way too ignorant to know what it is that you are truly concerned about, in comparison to all other people attempting to take away, or already have taken away from other people what they want for themselves.

Tibet
Western Sahara
North of Cyprus
Crimea and Ukraine

All unimportant to all who wish to focus on the most BSed cause in the world which has been turned upside down since the Jews managed to become legally sovereign of a small part of their ancient homeland.

Thanks for not caring.

How can I not care? Because of a bunch of magical beliefs, my country has been in an endless war in the wastelands of the Middle East for decades. People in my country have been slaughtered, and my country has slaughtered a bunch of people because groups of people with magical beliefs claim some insignificant ruins are theirs. Because some magical being gave it to them.

You say I'm ignorant of people taking away from others what they want for themselves? Every square foot of land on the planet has been conquered multiple times by people who wanted what was not theirs. These magical ruins are not special. If taking them away stops the violence, then it's worth it. When 2 kids are fighting over a toy, you take it from them. Especially if they're trying to kill each other over it.

Was it out of "Magical Beliefs" that the US entered the following wars:

WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam

Has it been out of some "magical beliefs" that the US has also entered into conflicts in Bosnia or any other for the past century?

The US, just like Russia, Iran, Turkey, the UK and many other countries have their own interest on any part of the world.

It has always been that way, and nothing is going to stop it.
Commercial, territorial interests have always been at the bottom as to why so many of these powerful countries attempt to side with one or the other.

The Temple Mount, Jerusalem and all of the Jewish Homeland belongs to the Jewish People.

They were invaded, oppressed and killed over and over again by Christian and Muslim forces.

The Jews had the guts to fight for what is theirs, and especially to do it legally even before WWI.

Christians and Muslims who have been taught to hate Jews because of the stories they are told, are the problem. Always has been.

So, the question should really be :

How can the world make Christian and Muslim extremists stop demanding what is not theirs, lie about it as if it was theirs, and manage to get support for their deadly intentions when it comes to the Jewish People.

Were it Muslim against Muslim, or Christian against Christian, there would not be the endless lies, the endless attacks on Jews and those who support Jews and Israel.

French and British One Hundred Year War?
When was anyone saying that any of the toys they were after should be destroyed or taken from them?

WWI?
WWII? What did the Nazis want? How much did they get which was not theirs, as they did in WWII?

Do you know who the rightful indigenous people of the land are?

Does it matter to you that the Muslims are after subjugating the Jews again, and always, as they did for 1300 years after they invaded the Jewish homeland and turned all living there into subjects to Islam? With no rights? Just as the Africans were seen as non humans by the European slave masters?

Jews and Muslims are not fighting over a "toy".

The Jews are fighting for survival, for having the right to their homeland (even if 80% was illegally given away to the Arabs/Muslims)

The Arabs were partners with the Nazis before and after WWII.
It was Arab Nazis who expelled Jews from their homes in Arab conquered lands, post 1948.

Islam and the Germans have a culture of conquest, of destroying people.

Islamic extremists are not going to be content until all of Israel is destroyed.

That, and not some "toy" is what the conflict is about.

Bring the Jews back to the Islamic preferred form of being. (Dhimmis)

The words the Muslims would use when thinking of all non Muslims, and even Muslims who do not agree with them is:

Not Equal.

Infidels are everyone who does not agree with their idea that Islam is the Replacement religion for all the people of the world. Including other Muslims.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Explaining the current issues of the Temple Mount:

Amid Temple Mount tumult, the who, what and why of its Waqf rulers