Tehachapi Pass destroyed by 6400 Wind Turbines and counting!

[TheOldSchool]

And now a BEAUTIFUL view of the California coastline!

Only problem with your post, its not a choice between Oil and Wind power, we do not use Oil to produce electricity, we use Oil to manufacture wind turbines.

Wind Power does not replace Oil, it uses Oil.

For now

 

[elektra]

And now a BEAUTIFUL view of the California coastline!

Only problem with your post, its not a choice between Oil and Wind power, we do not use Oil to produce electricity, we use Oil to manufacture wind turbines.

Wind Power does not replace Oil, it uses Oil.

For now

Not for now, forever, I guess you do not understand that Oil is not used to make electricity. Wind Turbines use oil, 5-55 gallon drums of high quality oil as a lubricant every year.

Wind Turbines use oil without giving us much in return, a trickle of electricity.

 

[TheOldSchool]

And now a BEAUTIFUL view of the California coastline!

Only problem with your post, its not a choice between Oil and Wind power, we do not use Oil to produce electricity, we use Oil to manufacture wind turbines.

Wind Power does not replace Oil, it uses Oil.

For now

Not for now, forever, I guess you do not understand that Oil is not used to make electricity. Wind Turbines use oil, 5-55 gallon drums of high quality oil as a lubricant every year.

Wind Turbines use oil without giving us much in return, a trickle of electricity.

For now

 

[elektra]

And now a BEAUTIFUL view of the California coastline!

Only problem with your post, its not a choice between Oil and Wind power, we do not use Oil to produce electricity, we use Oil to manufacture wind turbines.

Wind Power does not replace Oil, it uses Oil.

For now

Not for now, forever, I guess you do not understand that Oil is not used to make electricity. Wind Turbines use oil, 5-55 gallon drums of high quality oil as a lubricant every year.

Wind Turbines use oil without giving us much in return, a trickle of electricity.

For now

prove it

 

[TheOldSchool]

And now a BEAUTIFUL view of the California coastline!

Only problem with your post, its not a choice between Oil and Wind power, we do not use Oil to produce electricity, we use Oil to manufacture wind turbines.

Wind Power does not replace Oil, it uses Oil.

For now

Not for now, forever, I guess you do not understand that Oil is not used to make electricity. Wind Turbines use oil, 5-55 gallon drums of high quality oil as a lubricant every year.

Wind Turbines use oil without giving us much in return, a trickle of electricity.

For now

prove it

Cars replaced horses.

 

[elektra]

Cars replaced horses.

Oil is not used to produce electricity, so how would Wind Turbines replace Oil? Its that simple, really.

Wind Power is older than Oil, not new, you even get that backwards.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Cars replaced horses.

Oil is not used to produce electricity, so how would Wind Turbines replace Oil? Its that simple, really.

Something will replace oil.

 

[elektra]

Something will replace oil.

Yea, more oil, that is the best idea so far.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Something will replace oil.

Yea, more oil, that is the best idea so far.

For now

 

[ScienceRocks]

Oil is a dead end in the long run...Solar, wind, hydro, geo-thermal and wave is the future. They won't run out until earth is a crispy little ball within our star!

Why not install solar on your house and have a few tw of it in our deserts? It isn't like humanity hasn't covered millions of sq miles with black top, buildings and dammed the rivers.

 

[jc456]

Those are my neck of the woods. Anyone can find shitty pics of oil rigs and wind turbines.

Speaking of...those apples y'all like to eat? A helluvalot of them come from Tehachapi.

they look pretty healthy for not having any water.

 

[mamooth]

So Elektra is demanding total environment purity, meaning we'll all have to live in caves.

No thanks. I like electricity.

 

[Syriusly]

Cars replaced horses.

Oil is not used to produce electricity, so how would Wind Turbines replace Oil? Its that simple, really.

Wind Power is older than Oil, not new, you even get that backwards.

Oil is used to produce 1% of U.S. electricity- in addition- every electrical generation plant uses lubrication oil- just as wind mills do- just lots more of it.

How many gallons of oil does a typical coal fired plant use? Or how many gallons of lubricating oil does San Onofre use each year?

Frequently Asked Questions
What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source?
In 2014, the United States generated about 4,093 billion kilowatthours of electricity.1 About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2014:

• Coal = 39%
• Natural gas = 27%
• Nuclear = 19%
• Hydropower = 6%
• Other renewables = 7%
  • Biomass = 1.7%
  • Geothermal = 0.4%
  • Solar = 0.4%
  • Wind = 4.4%
• Petroleum = 1%
• Other gases < 1%

Your anti-green energy threads are always the same- a mish mash of claims all fueled by what appears to be some hatred of any electricity development that is not carbon or nuclear based.

All energy development has ugly aspects to it- compare the Tehachapi Pass to this coal mine

Or for fracking

Or for uranium mining

Or even a hydraulic dam- behind that dam is a valley that John Muir once said was as majestic as Yosemite...

 

[Syriusly]

So Elektra is demanding total environment purity, meaning we'll all have to live in caves.

No thanks. I like electricity.

Elektra is only against electricity if it is from a source that the Koch Brothers are also against.

 

[HenryBHough]

Does it only seem like it's cheaper to build new bird-killers to replace failed ones than to fix the broken ones left standing?

 

[Syriusly]

Does it only seem like it's cheaper to build new bird-killers to replace failed ones than to fix the broken ones left standing?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Oil and coal are dead end in the long run...Solar, wind, hydro, geo-thermal and wave is the future. They won't run out until earth is a crispy little ball within our star!

Why not install solar on your house and have a few tw of it in our deserts? It isn't like humanity hasn't covered millions of sq miles with black top, buildings and dammed the rivers.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Does it only seem like it's cheaper to build new bird-killers to replace failed ones than to fix the broken ones left standing?

Buildings, power poles and cars kill more birds. Civilization kills other life forms. Are you really going to oppose civilization? Maybe if you do you should live by example...Go find a cave and live as a cave man.

 

[Old Rocks]

Stupidity should be painful...

The average wind mill has to be replaced every 4 years... Within 25 years all of these will be rusting monuments to stupidity..

And you are one fucked up little liar, Billy Boob.

Wind Turbines

A modern wind turbines will be designed to work for 120 000 hours throughout their estimated life-span of 20 years. This would be the turbine operating for approximately 66% of the time for two decades. This is far more than modern car engine which is built to last for 4 000 to 6 000 hours of use. This equates to an average of 49 minutes driving a day over the same two decades.

Operation and Maintenance Costs

From experience, the maintenance costs of a new turbine will be very low but as the turbine ages these costs will increase.

Studies done in Denmark on the 5000 wind turbines installed in the country since 1975 has demonstrated that each new generations of turbines has had lower repair and maintenance costs than the previous generation. (The studies compared wind turbines which were built and erected at approximately the same time, but which belong to different technological generations).

Older wind turbines have an annual maintenance cost are on average 3% of the original cost of the turbine. Because newer turbines are usually quite substantially larger you get an economy of scale, lower maintenance costs per kW of rated power. This is simply because you do not need to service a large turbine any more often than a small one. Couple this with the constant development of new materials and techniques and you will make savings on the maintenance costs. For modern machines the estimated maintenance costs are in the range of 1.5% to 2% of the original investment per annum.

 

[westwall]

OH NO!!!

Holy shit batman!