Tax Refund Fiasco Is Political Payback For Republicans

[Crepitus]

So, let's see. One, her employer failed to withhold enough money, which has nothing to do with Trump. Two, her state, New York, has excessively high taxes which she can't fully deduct anymore meaning she can no longer pass her federal tax responsibility onto the rest of us and she actually has to pay the taxes that her state has been voting in favor of for decades.

Not seeing the problem here.

If they'd withheld enough her paychecks would have gone down, not up.

I am overjoyed to see Democrats finally having to pay the higher taxes they’ve been screaming everyone else should for years now

What is your actual viewpoint here? This is a direct contraction of a thread you started today. Are you just a troll or do you have an opinion?

 

[Crepitus]

So, let's see. One, her employer failed to withhold enough money, which has nothing to do with Trump. Two, her state, New York, has excessively high taxes which she can't fully deduct anymore meaning she can no longer pass her federal tax responsibility onto the rest of us and she actually has to pay the taxes that her state has been voting in favor of for decades.

Not seeing the problem here.

Apparently you didn't read closely enough. Try again...

No, I read it just fine

The withholding DOES have something to do with Trump - the tax cut changed the witholding laws that led to her

If they'd withheld enough her paychecks would have gone down, not up.

She may have jumped income brackets. It is not clear how she made $90 more take home per check and had them take out an extra $130 per pay check more in extra taxes to boot. It would suggest she made at least $2,520 and $10,920 more in taxable income than she did the year before depending on how often she gets paid.

The fact remains that if they had taken out enough to leaver her with $0 IRS debt her check would have gone down by something like $300 a month instead of up by $90. That's not a win in anyone's book.

One individual is really irrelevant. Most people received a tax break. you will be able to find those that did not.

Are you going to hang Obamacare on the myriad of people the right came up with that found out the law did not benefit them?

Why not? You guys did and turn about is definitely fair play.

'Us' guys did nothing of the sort and if you are admitting that you rejected the argument before then it really does not help your point at all. You basically just stated that you know well and full you are being disingenuous.

No, I'm.being unabashedly partisan. I've never pretended to be anything but.

And yes, you guys did.

 

[OKTexas]

So, let's see. One, her employer failed to withhold enough money, which has nothing to do with Trump. Two, her state, New York, has excessively high taxes which she can't fully deduct anymore meaning she can no longer pass her federal tax responsibility onto the rest of us and she actually has to pay the taxes that her state has been voting in favor of for decades.

Not seeing the problem here.

If they'd withheld enough her paychecks would have gone down, not up.

Maybe the people in high tax States will think "before" they vote for tax and spend commies in the future.

.

Like dOnald tRump?

I wasn't aware he ran for office in a high tax State.

.

*President* runs for office in every state. Surely you knew that.

He has nothing to do with SALT tax rates, BTW there are only two true federal office holders, the president and the VP, they may campaign is every State but they don't run for a State office.

.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Everybody should have to write two checks for taxes every year. One federal and one state. Then they will have a much better idea just how much these politicians are costing them.

 

[FA_Q2]

So, let's see. One, her employer failed to withhold enough money, which has nothing to do with Trump. Two, her state, New York, has excessively high taxes which she can't fully deduct anymore meaning she can no longer pass her federal tax responsibility onto the rest of us and she actually has to pay the taxes that her state has been voting in favor of for decades.

Not seeing the problem here.

Apparently you didn't read closely enough. Try again...

No, I read it just fine

The withholding DOES have something to do with Trump - the tax cut changed the witholding laws that led to her

She may have jumped income brackets. It is not clear how she made $90 more take home per check and had them take out an extra $130 per pay check more in extra taxes to boot. It would suggest she made at least $2,520 and $10,920 more in taxable income than she did the year before depending on how often she gets paid.

The fact remains that if they had taken out enough to leaver her with $0 IRS debt her check would have gone down by something like $300 a month instead of up by $90. That's not a win in anyone's book.

One individual is really irrelevant. Most people received a tax break. you will be able to find those that did not.

Are you going to hang Obamacare on the myriad of people the right came up with that found out the law did not benefit them?

Why not? You guys did and turn about is definitely fair play.

'Us' guys did nothing of the sort and if you are admitting that you rejected the argument before then it really does not help your point at all. You basically just stated that you know well and full you are being disingenuous.

No, I'm.being unabashedly partisan. I've never pretended to be anything but.

And yes, you guys did.

Again, there is no us or you guys.

You demand that I belong in the opposite camp because you are 'being unabashedly partisan.' I am not.

 

[FA_Q2]

Everybody should have to write two checks for taxes every year. One federal and one state. Then they will have a much better idea just how much these politicians are costing them.

.....

Have you never done your taxes?

 

[bripat9643]

They stepped on this rake last year and now it’s hitting them in the face.

Republicans boasted all last year that their new tax law boosted paychecks and showered bonuses on several million workers.

But now that tax season is upon us, several million Americans are getting a nasty surprise: a bill from the Internal Revenue Service that they never expected.

Beth Callori of Long Island, New York, said she was thrilled to receive about $90 more in each paycheck last year. Thanks to the new lower federal income tax rates, Callori’s employer, a financial services firm, was withholding less from her paycheck for federal tax purposes.

“I thought, ‘Wow, Trump is great, I love him,’” Callori said.

But last week Callori heard from her tax preparer that she owes the federal government more than $5,000 ― almost five times as much as she had to pay in previous years.

“I almost fell out of my chair. I could not believe it,” she said. “I voted for Trump. I thought he was going to be good for this country, but when I got that phone call, that’s it, I’m done.”

Callori’s tax bill went up for two reasons. One is that the law directly disadvantaged her by limiting deductions for state and local taxes, which increased the amount of Callori’s income subject to tax and added an extra grand to her bill.

The bigger reason is that her employer withheld too little from her paycheck. The extra $90 she received should have been added to the amount that gets automatically socked away to cover the federal income tax. Like most people, however, Callori did not fill out a worksheet and submit a new Form W-4 to her employer at the beginning of last year.

After all, at that time Republicans kept bragging about the bigger paychecks they had given the American people.

“I thought because I was getting that, I’m entitled to it,” Callori said.

Beth Callori, for her part, said she had also previously chosen zero allowances ― plus she had an extra $130 withheld from each paycheck. It wasn’t enough.

She said she used to love Donald Trump. Not anymore.

“I really liked things he was doing, until this, and now I hate him,” she said.

More: Tax Refund Fiasco Is Political Payback For Republicans

What did these people expect from a conman like Trump? His only goal was to make the rich richer. National debt be damned.

How is it a "fiasco" when Dims can't figure out whether they paid more in taxes or not?

 

[busybee01]

So, let's see. One, her employer failed to withhold enough money, which has nothing to do with Trump. Two, her state, New York, has excessively high taxes which she can't fully deduct anymore meaning she can no longer pass her federal tax responsibility onto the rest of us and she actually has to pay the taxes that her state has been voting in favor of for decades.

Not seeing the problem here.

The problem is your stupidity.

Even Mark Levin calls that argument stupid. Whether someone can deduct all of their state taxes has nothing to do with how much taxes you pay. Republicans got their hands caught in the cookie jar. It's not just people living in NY.

"Kurt Kromm is an electrician in Kenosha, Wisconsin ― an area that used to be represented by former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Kromm knew he and his wife would pay higher taxes because of the limit on deductions for state and local taxes, but he didn’t think they would owe more than $4,000 this spring.

Kromm had already indicated on the Form W-4 documents he’d previously submitted to his employer that he was married and wanted zero allowances, which means he was withholding as much as he could without specifying an additional dollar amount. "

It is amazing how you expect people to become tax accountants when they have their own lives to live. You remind me of Trump. You are the most uncaring and rudest bastard I have ever seen.

 

[Crepitus]

If they'd withheld enough her paychecks would have gone down, not up.

Maybe the people in high tax States will think "before" they vote for tax and spend commies in the future.

.

Like dOnald tRump?

I wasn't aware he ran for office in a high tax State.

.

*President* runs for office in every state. Surely you knew that.

He has nothing to do with SALT tax rates, BTW there are only two true federal office holders, the president and the VP, they may campaign is every State but they don't run for a State office.

.

Hold on, I'm sure I can find a few more hairs for you to split.

 

[Crepitus]

So, let's see. One, her employer failed to withhold enough money, which has nothing to do with Trump. Two, her state, New York, has excessively high taxes which she can't fully deduct anymore meaning she can no longer pass her federal tax responsibility onto the rest of us and she actually has to pay the taxes that her state has been voting in favor of for decades.

Not seeing the problem here.

Apparently you didn't read closely enough. Try again...

No, I read it just fine

The withholding DOES have something to do with Trump - the tax cut changed the witholding laws that led to her

The fact remains that if they had taken out enough to leaver her with $0 IRS debt her check would have gone down by something like $300 a month instead of up by $90. That's not a win in anyone's book.

One individual is really irrelevant. Most people received a tax break. you will be able to find those that did not.

Are you going to hang Obamacare on the myriad of people the right came up with that found out the law did not benefit them?

Why not? You guys did and turn about is definitely fair play.

'Us' guys did nothing of the sort and if you are admitting that you rejected the argument before then it really does not help your point at all. You basically just stated that you know well and full you are being disingenuous.

No, I'm.being unabashedly partisan. I've never pretended to be anything but.

And yes, you guys did.

Again, there is no us or you guys.

You demand that I belong in the opposite camp because you are 'being unabashedly partisan.' I am not.

Unabashedly, no. But you are partisan.

I'm just more honest about it.

 

[Siete]

I tried pretty hard not to be partisan in the past, but the RW pukes on this board changed all of that.

 

[Missourian]

I tried pretty hard not to be partisan in the past, but the RW pukes on this board changed all of that.

So let me get this straight...your responses are controlled by the posts of others on the forum?

 

[Chuz Life]

The bigger reason is that her employer withheld too little from her paycheck. The extra $90 she received should have been added to the amount that gets automatically socked away to cover the federal income tax. Like most people, however, Callori did not fill out a worksheet and submit a new Form W-4 to her employer at the beginning of last year.

Yep.

According to leftarded lackalogic, that would be TRUMP'S fault, alright.

Good catch!

 

[Lewdog]

Almost everyone I've talked to said their tax refund has been smaller than ever before, or that they actually owe instead of getting a refund.

 

[Lakhota]

Trump's tax overhaul targeted blue states.

Trump's War Against Blue States - Bloomberg

 

[dudmuck]

Trump's tax overhaul targeted blue states.

Trump's War Against Blue States - Bloomberg

At least 4.4 million Trump voting republicans in california. How do they deal with it?

 

[Oddball]

They stepped on this rake last year and now it’s hitting them in the face.

Republicans boasted all last year that their new tax law boosted paychecks and showered bonuses on several million workers.

But now that tax season is upon us, several million Americans are getting a nasty surprise: a bill from the Internal Revenue Service that they never expected.

Beth Callori of Long Island, New York, said she was thrilled to receive about $90 more in each paycheck last year. Thanks to the new lower federal income tax rates, Callori’s employer, a financial services firm, was withholding less from her paycheck for federal tax purposes.

“I thought, ‘Wow, Trump is great, I love him,’” Callori said.

But last week Callori heard from her tax preparer that she owes the federal government more than $5,000 ― almost five times as much as she had to pay in previous years.

“I almost fell out of my chair. I could not believe it,” she said. “I voted for Trump. I thought he was going to be good for this country, but when I got that phone call, that’s it, I’m done.”

Callori’s tax bill went up for two reasons. One is that the law directly disadvantaged her by limiting deductions for state and local taxes, which increased the amount of Callori’s income subject to tax and added an extra grand to her bill.

The bigger reason is that her employer withheld too little from her paycheck. The extra $90 she received should have been added to the amount that gets automatically socked away to cover the federal income tax. Like most people, however, Callori did not fill out a worksheet and submit a new Form W-4 to her employer at the beginning of last year.

After all, at that time Republicans kept bragging about the bigger paychecks they had given the American people.

“I thought because I was getting that, I’m entitled to it,” Callori said.

Beth Callori, for her part, said she had also previously chosen zero allowances ― plus she had an extra $130 withheld from each paycheck. It wasn’t enough.

She said she used to love Donald Trump. Not anymore.

“I really liked things he was doing, until this, and now I hate him,” she said.

More: Tax Refund Fiasco Is Political Payback For Republicans

What did these people expect from a conman like Trump? His only goal was to make the rich richer. National debt be damned.

How is it a "fiasco" when Dims can't figure out whether they paid more in taxes or not?

It's a "fiasco" because that's what the DNC thralls at HuffingPaingPost tell their paid toadies like Dorkhota to say....Y'know....

 

[Oddball]

At least 4.4 million Trump voting republicans in california. How do they deal with it?

Give it up.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

ummm a tax refund just means that you gave the government a free loan.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Trump's tax overhaul targeted blue states.

Trump's War Against Blue States - Bloomberg

The high tax Blue states were using tax deductions to mooch off of the other states
BRAVO President Trump