Tax Cuts May Prove Better for Politicians Than for Economy

Obama: If You Think We Can Cut Taxes For The Rich You Can't Add

YouTube - President Obama: Math Isn't There To Give Tax Cuts To The Rich
More proof that Barry Obolshevik doesn't have the first clue as to what he's talking about.

Nobody sends anybody a check when their taxes get cut.

Even flaming Fabian socialist host of CCCPNBC's Hardhead, Chris Matthews, can understand that.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY0x5OzKE7I]YouTube - Chris Matthews to Obama: Stop Saying Cutting Taxes Is Giving People Money... It's Their Money![/ame]
 
Obama: If You Think We Can Cut Taxes For The Rich You Can't Add

YouTube - President Obama: Math Isn't There To Give Tax Cuts To The Rich
More proof that Barry Obolshevik doesn't have the first clue as to what he's talking about.

Nobody sends anybody a check when their taxes get cut.

Even flaming Fabian socialist host of CCCPNBC's Hardhead, Chris Matthews, can understand that.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY0x5OzKE7I]YouTube - Chris Matthews to Obama: Stop Saying Cutting Taxes Is Giving People Money... It's Their Money![/ame]

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hell, for you even facts don't change your preconceived bias!

Hell, for you even math doesn't change your preconceived bias!

Nothing does!
 
Eight Bell California DEMOCRAT City Council Members Arrested for ‘Corruption on Steroids’

Predicting Debt with stupid charts does not prove a thing. If you give the government more money they will pay it to themselves. Power Hungry Government Is Inherently Corrupt. This is why Government Employees are paid DOUBLE what private employees are paid.

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OK, so give them less money and don't extend either tax cut. And while the chart may be flawed you haven't discredited it, so for now it is still God's word vs yours.

We have a deficit from hell, we have a debt from hell. We either cut spending or raise taxes or default.

Among our options the best is to let the tax cuts for the wealthiest retire. All the other options are still on the table.

Unless we take them off the table.

Enter republican party stage right:
 
Eight Bell California DEMOCRAT City Council Members Arrested for ‘Corruption on Steroids’

Predicting Debt with stupid charts does not prove a thing. If you give the government more money they will pay it to themselves. Power Hungry Government Is Inherently Corrupt. This is why Government Employees are paid DOUBLE what private employees are paid.

200908_edwards_blog2.jpg

OK, so give them less money and don't extend either tax cut. And while the chart may be flawed you haven't discredited it, so for now it is still God's word vs yours.

We have a deficit from hell, we have a debt from hell. We either cut spending or raise taxes or default.

Among our options the best is to let the tax cuts for the wealthiest retire. All the other options are still on the table.

Unless we take them off the table.

Enter republican party stage right:

Apparently you can't think for yourself.

Among our options the best is to cut government employee pay, pension & benefits in half. Then peg their pay to the private sectors pay. There would be no deficit after that. Then the surplus would pay down the debt. Unless they do this don't even think about raising taxes. I was not born a slave to elitist government workers & I will not die a slave to those corrupt assholes.
 
Among our options the best is to cut government employee pay, pension & benefits in half. Then peg their pay to the private sectors pay. There would be no deficit after that. Then the surplus would pay down the debt. Unless they do this don't even think about raising taxes. I was not born a slave to elitist government workers & I will not die a slave to those corrupt assholes.

Apparently you don't think for yourself. Neither you, nor I, nor Congress past or future can cut spending because Congress is a pork vending machine for corporate American campaign contributors.

But we could likely let the tax cuts for the rich expire, it is within reach.

But you seem more concerned about deepening our dilemma while crowing vociferously about myths distant and impossible.

Why do you hate America?
 
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Among our options the best is to cut government employee pay, pension & benefits in half. Then peg their pay to the private sectors pay. There would be no deficit after that. Then the surplus would pay down the debt. Unless they do this don't even think about raising taxes. I was not born a slave to elitist government workers & I will not die a slave to those corrupt assholes.

Apparently you don't think for yourself. Neither you, nor I, nor Congress past or future can cut spending because Congress is a pork vending machine for corporate American campaign contributors.

But we could likely let the tax cuts for the rich expire, it is within reach.

But you seem more concerned about deepening our dilemma while crowing vociferously about myths distant and impossible.

Why do you hate America?
How fucking stupid you are. Government is unwilling to cut spending or their pay, so you want to force me to work harder & reward them with more of my earnings.

Well Fuck You To.

I don't hate America. I hate the current American Government. If they do not cut their pay, pension & benefits in half then I hope they go down in fames. I will be their lighting the fire.
 
Among our options the best is to cut government employee pay, pension & benefits in half. Then peg their pay to the private sectors pay. There would be no deficit after that. Then the surplus would pay down the debt. Unless they do this don't even think about raising taxes. I was not born a slave to elitist government workers & I will not die a slave to those corrupt assholes.

Apparently you don't think for yourself. Neither you, nor I, nor Congress past or future can cut spending because Congress is a pork vending machine for corporate American campaign contributors.

But we could likely let the tax cuts for the rich expire, it is within reach.

But you seem more concerned about deepening our dilemma while crowing vociferously about myths distant and impossible.

Why do you hate America?
How fucking stupid you are. Government is unwilling to cut spending or their pay, so you want to force me to work harder & reward them with more of my earnings.

Well Fuck You To.

I don't hate America. I hate the current American Government. If they do not cut their pay, pension & benefits in half then I hope they go down in fames. I will be their lighting the fire.

It is the sunsetting of a tax cut. Iow no harm, no foul to you or anybody.

By the size of your argument you represent yourself as making about three times as much as the federal employees whose pay you want to cut to reduce your tax burden.

Maybe we should increase your tax burden until you are on income parity with federal workers instead.

Just saying.
 
Among our options the best is to cut government employee pay, pension & benefits in half. Then peg their pay to the private sectors pay. There would be no deficit after that. Then the surplus would pay down the debt. Unless they do this don't even think about raising taxes. I was not born a slave to elitist government workers & I will not die a slave to those corrupt assholes.

I'm sorry. This is just flat out wrong.

The operations of the entire federal government cost about a day and a half's worth of the year's expenditure. Doing what you are suggesting wouldn't make an iota's worth of difference to reduce the deficit. It's a rounding error.

If you want to cut the deficit back into balance, the only way you can do it is to slash social security, medicare and medicaid and defense, since those account for about three quarters of total federal spending. Everything else is just talk.
 
And BTW, if you embrace the tax cuts you forfeit your rights to complain about the deficit!

Capiche?

Wow, you really think you get to make the rules for this? Talk about stupid.

Maybe we should talk about what you libs aren't allowed to bitch about too.

Now tax cuts ARE a good idea. Always are till you hit the Laffer Curve's equilibrium point. We're far from that.

But what we need to do MORE and fast is spending cuts. You can't run a household on $4000 dollars worth of expenses ($3000 of it 'disposable income') when you're only making $1000. That's what our government is doing. (it's more like a trillion in unnecessary spending though)

So, Start with say a nice 40% across the board budget cut, and reduce capital gains taxes, income tax and estate taxes. There's also probably a dozen more consumption taxes that could use a suspension (gas tax for one) for 2-6 years as well.

Then, freeze the budget for the next decade and force government to make do with far far less as it should.

The beast called the federal government needs to be put on a crash diet.
 
And BTW, if you embrace the tax cuts you forfeit your rights to complain about the deficit!

Capiche?

Wow, you really think you get to make the rules for this? Talk about stupid.

Maybe we should talk about what you libs aren't allowed to bitch about too.

Now tax cuts ARE a good idea. Always are till you hit the Laffer Curve's equilibrium point. We're far from that.

But what we need to do MORE and fast is spending cuts. You can't run a household on $4000 dollars worth of expenses ($3000 of it 'disposable income') when you're only making $1000. That's what our government is doing. (it's more like a trillion in unnecessary spending though)

So, Start with say a nice 40% across the board budget cut, and reduce capital gains taxes, income tax and estate taxes. There's also probably a dozen more consumption taxes that could use a suspension (gas tax for one) for 2-6 years as well.

Then, freeze the budget for the next decade and force government to make do with far far less as it should.

The beast called the federal government needs to be put on a crash diet.

Really? How did you decide that?
 
Among our options the best is to cut government employee pay, pension & benefits in half. Then peg their pay to the private sectors pay. There would be no deficit after that. Then the surplus would pay down the debt. Unless they do this don't even think about raising taxes. I was not born a slave to elitist government workers & I will not die a slave to those corrupt assholes.

I'm sorry. This is just flat out wrong.

The operations of the entire federal government cost about a day and a half's worth of the year's expenditure. Doing what you are suggesting wouldn't make an iota's worth of difference to reduce the deficit. It's a rounding error.

If you want to cut the deficit back into balance, the only way you can do it is to slash social security, medicare and medicaid and defense, since those account for about three quarters of total federal spending. Everything else is just talk.

You are WRONG!

Government employs 18% of the workforce or 23,000,000 employees with an average compensation of $122,000 that cost us $2,806,000,000,000 annually. Cutting their pay in half to equal the private sector would save $1,403,000,000,000 annually. The deficit is only $1,361,291,000,000. That would leave a $41,709,000,000 annual surplus to pay down the debt with every year.
 

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