Tax cuts for the rich, why?

I don't support Capitalist rights.
Capitalist rights are basically for simpletons.

I would just jail anyone outsourcing, or hiring Illegals.

Problem easily solved

In fact, that would solve just about all of America's problems very easily.
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.

You don't work but vilify the rich. This is priceless. Eat another burger. Fatty.

I'm in college so I can get a better paying job.

Why should the rich be super rich, f*cking over this nation by outsourcing, and hiring illegals?

Oh but the working class, who put consumerism into the rich peoples pockets are the issue.

You savages don't quite grasp reality very well.

Capitalism & Genes both create winners & losers.

There's nothing logical, or moral about continuing that legacy.

I'm in college so I can get a better paying job.

Take some econ classes.

You might sound less like a moron.

LMFAO
Capitalist free markets lead to the best economic growth, sure.

Like FDR achieving the #1 economic GDP growth period in 20th century USA history, and Franco & Hitler achieving even faater economic GDP growth than FDR.

Yeah, such a bunch of Capitalist free market guys.

Now who's being ignorant?
 
SobieskiSavedEurope expects you to pay more for goods and services in order to benefit another, but he is himself unwilling to do so.

You expect us to settle for less pay & less in goods.

Just like in 3rd World countries. LMFAO.

Why are you Protestant filth such irrational, and emotionally detached cretins?

You fucking idiot. My position is to let free people negotiate their own transactions. You're a government, boot-licking moron that wants bureaucrats to determine prices, pay, etc. You sound like a fascist.

I am a Fascist leaning guy.

This is only SO WRONG because of America's ignorant indoctrination.

A.) Franco + Hitler achieved faster economic growth than any USA President in the 20th Century.

B.) Fascism killed less than Communism, or Capitalism, without a doubt.

C.) Fascism wouldn't allow for outsourced manufacturing, nor mass immigration, either.

D.) Fascism wouldn't allow for Facebook, Hollywood, and Liberal media indoctrinating the ignorant masses, either.

Fascism is proper Nationalism, and properly anti-Globalist.
Why are you lumping Illegals and excessive off-shoring with automation?
 
I don't support Capitalist rights.
Capitalist rights are basically for simpletons.

I would just jail anyone outsourcing, or hiring Illegals.

Problem easily solved

In fact, that would solve just about all of America's problems very easily.
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.

You don't work but vilify the rich. This is priceless. Eat another burger. Fatty.

He's soooo fucking stupid.

Keep eliminating your culture, jobs, and general livelihood you thoughtless Protestant & Chosen Hook Nosen savages.

You have both effectively destroyed America, your heritage, your jobs, etc.

Such a lack of commonsense.

Oh, and you BOTH are traitors of Jesus Christ (God) and towards the Catholic faith.

Having not just rejected Jesus's doctrine, by being traitors to the Catholic faith.

You value greed & Capitalism, actual Sins.

You are monstrosities.

Keep eliminating your culture, jobs, and general livelihood you thoughtless Protestant & Chosen Hook Nosen savages.

I'm not part of the Protestant or Chosen culture.

Keep pushing your moron Polack culture. Good luck finally making more than minimum wage,
once you graduate from your community college.
 
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.

You don't work but vilify the rich. This is priceless. Eat another burger. Fatty.

He's soooo fucking stupid.

Keep eliminating your culture, jobs, and general livelihood you thoughtless Protestant & Chosen Hook Nosen savages.

You have both effectively destroyed America, your heritage, your jobs, etc.

Such a lack of commonsense.

Oh, and you BOTH are traitors of Jesus Christ (God) and towards the Catholic faith.

Having not just rejected Jesus's doctrine, by being traitors to the Catholic faith.

You value greed & Capitalism, actual Sins.

You are monstrosities.

Keep eliminating your culture, jobs, and general livelihood you thoughtless Protestant & Chosen Hook Nosen savages.

I'm not part of the Protestant or Chosen culture.

Keep pushing your moron Polack culture. Good luck finally making more than minimum wage,
once you graduate from your community college.

So long as the dirties don't attack Poland, Poland is definitely the future of White people.

Yes, dirties, like Germans, Russians etc.

Poland's setting up to be sitting pretty, at this rate.

Since 1990 Poland's achieved Europe's #1 economic GDP growth, now Poland's #3 in Europe's educational PISA scores, Poland's murder rate has been in decline, same with crime rates.

The USA, is really looking goofier, and Poland smarter.
 
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.

You don't work but vilify the rich. This is priceless. Eat another burger. Fatty.

I'm in college so I can get a better paying job.

Why should the rich be super rich, f*cking over this nation by outsourcing, and hiring illegals?

Oh but the working class, who put consumerism into the rich peoples pockets are the issue.

You savages don't quite grasp reality very well.

Capitalism & Genes both create winners & losers.

There's nothing logical, or moral about continuing that legacy.

I'm in college so I can get a better paying job.

Take some econ classes.

You might sound less like a moron.

LMFAO
Capitalist free markets lead to the best economic growth, sure.

Like FDR achieving the #1 economic GDP growth period in 20th century USA history, and Franco & Hitler achieving even faater economic GDP growth than FDR.

Yeah, such a bunch of Capitalist free market guys.

Now who's being ignorant?

Capitalist free markets lead to the best economic growth, sure.

Well, if you think the height of East German manufacturing, the Trabant, was equivalent to a West German Mercedes...…..your IQ is even lower than it first appeared.
 
I don't support Capitalist rights.
Capitalist rights are basically for simpletons.

I would just jail anyone outsourcing, or hiring Illegals.

Problem easily solved

In fact, that would solve just about all of America's problems very easily.
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.
Post the real numbers or your whole complaint is nullified.

Post it now, because Chimpity Choo Choo said so.
LMFAO.

My plans would significantly help the Nation, Culture, Economy, Job Market and also National debt.

A.) Jail those who hire Illegals, this would boost income tax on jobs, and lower spending on scrambling to pay for the Illegal Alien issues, like having more kids they put through school, undermining wages, and so forth.

B.) Jail those who outsource jobs, this would boost manufacturing taxes on properties, and also boost good paying manufacturing jobs in the United States, bolstering income tax, presumably.

C.) Tax Marijuana that is legalized, Marijuana farmers, and Marijuana sellers both pay taxes.

D.) Tax Tobacco more, so that a nasty habit generates wealth.

E.) Boost the tax on the rich, to help pay the debt.

F.) Tax gasoline more & more overtime, not just does this help bring down the debt, but helps incentivize electric vehicles better for the environment.

G.) Tax automation, robotics, AI, so that tax is generated, as people lose their jobs, a tax which will help bolster the economy & tax base, and consumerism from the switch to automation causing as much as 40% of people to lose jobs in the USA in the next 15 years, a potential catastrophe for the USA economy & consumerism.

H.) Tax the Porn Industry, and even Abortion heavily, so they deter this degeneracy, and raise funds.
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
 
SobieskiSavedEurope expects you to pay more for goods and services in order to benefit another, but he is himself unwilling to do so.

You expect us to settle for less pay & less in goods.

Just like in 3rd World countries. LMFAO.

Why are you Protestant filth such irrational, and emotionally detached cretins?

You fucking idiot. My position is to let free people negotiate their own transactions. You're a government, boot-licking moron that wants bureaucrats to determine prices, pay, etc. You sound like a fascist.

I am a Fascist leaning guy.

This is only SO WRONG because of America's ignorant indoctrination.

A.) Franco + Hitler achieved faster economic growth than any USA President in the 20th Century.

B.) Fascism killed less than Communism, or Capitalism, without a doubt.

C.) Fascism wouldn't allow for outsourced manufacturing, nor mass immigration, either.

D.) Fascism wouldn't allow for Facebook, Hollywood, and Liberal media indoctrinating the ignorant masses, either.

Fascism is proper Nationalism, and properly anti-Globalist.
Why are you lumping Illegals and excessive off-shoring with automation?

Lead poisoning.
 
SobieskiSavedEurope expects you to pay more for goods and services in order to benefit another, but he is himself unwilling to do so.

You expect us to settle for less pay & less in goods.

Just like in 3rd World countries. LMFAO.

Why are you Protestant filth such irrational, and emotionally detached cretins?

You fucking idiot. My position is to let free people negotiate their own transactions. You're a government, boot-licking moron that wants bureaucrats to determine prices, pay, etc. You sound like a fascist.

I am a Fascist leaning guy.

This is only SO WRONG because of America's ignorant indoctrination.

A.) Franco + Hitler achieved faster economic growth than any USA President in the 20th Century.

B.) Fascism killed less than Communism, or Capitalism, without a doubt.

C.) Fascism wouldn't allow for outsourced manufacturing, nor mass immigration, either.

D.) Fascism wouldn't allow for Facebook, Hollywood, and Liberal media indoctrinating the ignorant masses, either.

Fascism is proper Nationalism, and properly anti-Globalist.
Why are you lumping Illegals and excessive off-shoring with automation?

They both lead to job losses & losses in tax base.
They both wouldn't be tolerated by Fascism.

What's not to get?
 
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.
Post the real numbers or your whole complaint is nullified.

Post it now, because Chimpity Choo Choo said so.
LMFAO.

My plans would significantly help the Nation, Culture, Economy, Job Market and also National debt.

A.) Jail those who hire Illegals, this would boost income tax on jobs, and lower spending on scrambling to pay for the Illegal Alien issues, like having more kids they put through school, undermining wages, and so forth.

B.) Jail those who outsource jobs, this would boost manufacturing taxes on properties, and also boost good paying manufacturing jobs in the United States, bolstering income tax, presumably.

C.) Tax Marijuana that is legalized, Marijuana farmers, and Marijuana sellers both pay taxes.

D.) Tax Tobacco more, so that a nasty habit generates wealth.

E.) Boost the tax on the rich, to help pay the debt.

F.) Tax gasoline more & more overtime, not just does this help bring down the debt, but helps incentivize electric vehicles better for the environment.

G.) Tax automation, robotics, AI, so that tax is generated, as people lose their jobs, a tax which will help bolster the economy & tax base, and consumerism from the switch to automation causing as much as 40% of people to lose jobs in the USA in the next 15 years, a potential catastrophe for the USA economy & consumerism.

H.) Tax the Porn Industry, and even Abortion heavily, so they deter this degeneracy, and raise funds.
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.
 
Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.
Post the real numbers or your whole complaint is nullified.

Post it now, because Chimpity Choo Choo said so.
LMFAO.

My plans would significantly help the Nation, Culture, Economy, Job Market and also National debt.

A.) Jail those who hire Illegals, this would boost income tax on jobs, and lower spending on scrambling to pay for the Illegal Alien issues, like having more kids they put through school, undermining wages, and so forth.

B.) Jail those who outsource jobs, this would boost manufacturing taxes on properties, and also boost good paying manufacturing jobs in the United States, bolstering income tax, presumably.

C.) Tax Marijuana that is legalized, Marijuana farmers, and Marijuana sellers both pay taxes.

D.) Tax Tobacco more, so that a nasty habit generates wealth.

E.) Boost the tax on the rich, to help pay the debt.

F.) Tax gasoline more & more overtime, not just does this help bring down the debt, but helps incentivize electric vehicles better for the environment.

G.) Tax automation, robotics, AI, so that tax is generated, as people lose their jobs, a tax which will help bolster the economy & tax base, and consumerism from the switch to automation causing as much as 40% of people to lose jobs in the USA in the next 15 years, a potential catastrophe for the USA economy & consumerism.

H.) Tax the Porn Industry, and even Abortion heavily, so they deter this degeneracy, and raise funds.
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
 
Post the real numbers or your whole complaint is nullified.

Post it now, because Chimpity Choo Choo said so.
LMFAO.

My plans would significantly help the Nation, Culture, Economy, Job Market and also National debt.

A.) Jail those who hire Illegals, this would boost income tax on jobs, and lower spending on scrambling to pay for the Illegal Alien issues, like having more kids they put through school, undermining wages, and so forth.

B.) Jail those who outsource jobs, this would boost manufacturing taxes on properties, and also boost good paying manufacturing jobs in the United States, bolstering income tax, presumably.

C.) Tax Marijuana that is legalized, Marijuana farmers, and Marijuana sellers both pay taxes.

D.) Tax Tobacco more, so that a nasty habit generates wealth.

E.) Boost the tax on the rich, to help pay the debt.

F.) Tax gasoline more & more overtime, not just does this help bring down the debt, but helps incentivize electric vehicles better for the environment.

G.) Tax automation, robotics, AI, so that tax is generated, as people lose their jobs, a tax which will help bolster the economy & tax base, and consumerism from the switch to automation causing as much as 40% of people to lose jobs in the USA in the next 15 years, a potential catastrophe for the USA economy & consumerism.

H.) Tax the Porn Industry, and even Abortion heavily, so they deter this degeneracy, and raise funds.
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
Not my job. You made the assertion, you back it up. I've seen this before from other posters. You make an emotional statement and you're so wedded to it that you can't back away from it, even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.
 
Post it now, because Chimpity Choo Choo said so.
LMFAO.

My plans would significantly help the Nation, Culture, Economy, Job Market and also National debt.

A.) Jail those who hire Illegals, this would boost income tax on jobs, and lower spending on scrambling to pay for the Illegal Alien issues, like having more kids they put through school, undermining wages, and so forth.

B.) Jail those who outsource jobs, this would boost manufacturing taxes on properties, and also boost good paying manufacturing jobs in the United States, bolstering income tax, presumably.

C.) Tax Marijuana that is legalized, Marijuana farmers, and Marijuana sellers both pay taxes.

D.) Tax Tobacco more, so that a nasty habit generates wealth.

E.) Boost the tax on the rich, to help pay the debt.

F.) Tax gasoline more & more overtime, not just does this help bring down the debt, but helps incentivize electric vehicles better for the environment.

G.) Tax automation, robotics, AI, so that tax is generated, as people lose their jobs, a tax which will help bolster the economy & tax base, and consumerism from the switch to automation causing as much as 40% of people to lose jobs in the USA in the next 15 years, a potential catastrophe for the USA economy & consumerism.

H.) Tax the Porn Industry, and even Abortion heavily, so they deter this degeneracy, and raise funds.
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
Not my job. You made the assertion, you back it up. I've seen this before from other posters. You make an emotional statement and you're so wedded to it that you can't back away from it, even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.

Lmfao.
Emotional response, not.a.logical reponse.

As if its logical to have the.super wealthy horde money they'll never spend, when there's a huge debt?
 
Post it now, because Chimpity Choo Choo said so.
LMFAO.

My plans would significantly help the Nation, Culture, Economy, Job Market and also National debt.

A.) Jail those who hire Illegals, this would boost income tax on jobs, and lower spending on scrambling to pay for the Illegal Alien issues, like having more kids they put through school, undermining wages, and so forth.

B.) Jail those who outsource jobs, this would boost manufacturing taxes on properties, and also boost good paying manufacturing jobs in the United States, bolstering income tax, presumably.

C.) Tax Marijuana that is legalized, Marijuana farmers, and Marijuana sellers both pay taxes.

D.) Tax Tobacco more, so that a nasty habit generates wealth.

E.) Boost the tax on the rich, to help pay the debt.

F.) Tax gasoline more & more overtime, not just does this help bring down the debt, but helps incentivize electric vehicles better for the environment.

G.) Tax automation, robotics, AI, so that tax is generated, as people lose their jobs, a tax which will help bolster the economy & tax base, and consumerism from the switch to automation causing as much as 40% of people to lose jobs in the USA in the next 15 years, a potential catastrophe for the USA economy & consumerism.

H.) Tax the Porn Industry, and even Abortion heavily, so they deter this degeneracy, and raise funds.
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.

No its obvious that lowering taxes will generate more federal revenues to combat the debt.

Now that's an ignorant prescription.
 
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
Not my job. You made the assertion, you back it up. I've seen this before from other posters. You make an emotional statement and you're so wedded to it that you can't back away from it, even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.

Lmfao.
Emotional response, not.a.logical reponse.

As if its logical to have the.super wealthy horde money they'll never spend, when there's a huge debt?
Will taxing the super wealthy more reduce the debt? You say it will, show the numbers.
 
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.

No its obvious that lowering taxes will generate more federal revenues to combat the debt.

Now that's an ignorant prescription.
Show how much additional revenue you could generate by taxing the super wealthy more. If you would at least do that, I might believe you've actually thought this through instead of relying on feelz.
 
Okay, now you're talking about a wealth tax, not an income tax. Here's your problem. You can take that 2.7T ONE time, just once, and you still have 20T left in the debt, but now you've lost all your wealthy people, because they've packed up and left the country, along with their companies and wealth generation. You just killed the goose the laid the golden egg and you still have 20T to pay off and less to pay it off with. Now, I cut the military budget in half for you and told you to get real numbers on raising taxes on the poor through pot, gas, and tobacco. Go for it and post real numbers.[/QUOTE

I don't support Capitalist rights.
Capitalist rights are basically for simpletons.

I would just jail anyone outsourcing, or hiring Illegals.

Problem easily solved

In fact, that would solve just about all of America's problems very easily.
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.

You don't work but vilify the rich. This is priceless. Eat another burger. Fatty.

I'm in college so I can get a better paying job.

Why should the rich be super rich, f*cking over this nation by outsourcing, and hiring illegals?

Oh but the working class, who put consumerism into the rich peoples pockets are the issue.

You savages don't quite grasp reality very well.

Capitalism & Genes both create winners & losers.

There's nothing logical, or moral about continuing that legacy.

Oh goody this should be good, what are you majoring in? I'm guess a BA degree in some useless bullshit because you don't have enogh brains to be persuing a BS degree. Besides you're pissing away far too much time here to be studying anything worthwhile. I also guess that you're so clueless that you're going into hock to get it.
 
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Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.

No its obvious that lowering taxes will generate more federal revenues to combat the debt.

Now that's an ignorant prescription.
Show how much additional revenue you could generate by taxing the super wealthy more. If you would at least do that, I might believe you've actually thought this through instead of relying on feelz.


This article supports taxing the wealthy more will increase revenues.

What Could Raising Taxes on the 1% Do? Surprising Amounts

Yeah thats just feelings.

You're clueless.
 
I don't support Capitalist rights.
Capitalist rights are basically for simpletons.

I would just jail anyone outsourcing, or hiring Illegals.

Problem easily solved

In fact, that would solve just about all of America's problems very easily.
Have you managed to come up with 600B/year to overcome the existing deficit? If you have not, you haven't even started on the debt. This is why I said you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint, because you won't post real numbers, you just keep saying it will work. Sorry, but it DOESN'T work like that in the real world.

Your Baby boomers have left my generation with a colossal amount of debt, loss of manufacturing, influx of illegals, influx of the Islamists.

You have effectively destroyed this country.

The ONLY ideas you come up with are the same old nonsense that got us here.

Talk about idiots, pointblank.

You don't work but vilify the rich. This is priceless. Eat another burger. Fatty.

I'm in college so I can get a better paying job.

Why should the rich be super rich, f*cking over this nation by outsourcing, and hiring illegals?

Oh but the working class, who put consumerism into the rich peoples pockets are the issue.

You savages don't quite grasp reality very well.

Capitalism & Genes both create winners & losers.

There's nothing logical, or moral about continuing that legacy.

Oh goody this should be good, what are you majoring in? I'm guess a BA degree in some useless bullshit because you don't have either brains to be persuing a BS degree. I also guess that you're so clueless that you're going into hock to get it.

As a mental health worker but I might move onto a degree in art therapy.
 
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.

No its obvious that lowering taxes will generate more federal revenues to combat the debt.

Now that's an ignorant prescription.
Show how much additional revenue you could generate by taxing the super wealthy more. If you would at least do that, I might believe you've actually thought this through instead of relying on feelz.


This article supports taxing the wealthy more will increase revenues.

What Could Raising Taxes on the 1% Do? Surprising Amounts

Yeah thats just feelings.

You're clueless.
At least you tried. You found an article from 2015 that gives some numbers. That's a start. Your problem, however, is that the richest group they address only makes 9M/year. That's a far cry from the billionaires you touted, and attacking that group doesn't generate anywhere near enough revenue to eliminate the deficit, much less the debt itself. Keep trying.
 
Unless you post realistic numbers showing how much new revenue will be raised and show that the amount will be greater than the deficit, you're only wishing that you could impact the debt. The truth is, as you tax things like tobacco, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. As you tax gasoline more, people use less of it, giving you less new revenue. Why do you think California is looking for new taxes? Because higher gas mileage and electric cars are cutting their gas tax revenue (and for an education, research the pollution created to build an electric vehicle and you'll start to realize that they're not really that great a deal for the environment). Taxing Marijuana is the same as taxing tobacco. Tax it too high and the black market just keeps on running, again undercutting any new revenue you might get.

You keep saying to tax the rich to pay down the debt. Again, post real numbers, then come back and admit the only way to really tackle the US debt is to significantly cut spending, something Congress simply will not do. If you look at the real numbers, you'll realize that there just isn't enough wealth to do what you want to do.

Explain how the things I've listed won't bolster taxation, or well being of America?
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say they wouldn't have a positive effect. YOU claimed we could significantly cut the debt if we took the steps you advised, but you failed to show how. You didn't show how much new revenue you would get, you didn't show that it would wipe out the deficit and produce a surplus, which is the only way to reduce the debt. You didn't do any of that. You also failed to account for the reality that any new revenue would immediately be erased by Congress creating new spending. You continue to come at this from an emotional standpoint, insisting you can eliminate the debt just by taxing the crap out of the people, without showing how that could happen.

Well, let's hear your brilliant solution?
The same steps which lead us here? LOL
Not my job. You made the assertion, you back it up. I've seen this before from other posters. You make an emotional statement and you're so wedded to it that you can't back away from it, even when it becomes obvious your prescription won't do what you claim it will do.

Lmfao.
Emotional response, not.a.logical reponse.

As if its logical to have the.super wealthy horde money they'll never spend, when there's a huge debt?

As if its logical to have the.super wealthy horde money they'll never spend,

Is "horde money" the same as "large crowd money"? "Big group money"?
 

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