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    Display of religious tenets debated

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    Display of Religious Tenets Debated


    By Jerry Markon
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, November 13, 2008; Page A04

    The way Summum tells it, when Moses first came down from Mount Sinai, he didn't have the Ten Commandments in his hands: He was holding the Seven Aphorisms.

    The aphorisms are the guiding principles of Summum, a religious organization that operates from a pyramid in Salt Lake City and practices mummification. The group's founder, Summum "Corky" Ra, asked that the sayings be displayed near a Ten Commandments monument in a public park in Pleasant Grove, a Salt Lake suburb.

    The city said no, triggering a court fight that yesterday wound up before the Supreme Court. The justices debated whether the city violated Summum's First Amendment rights and must erect the aphorisms, sayings such as "Summum is mind," "Everything vibrates" and "The measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left."

    Based on yesterday's argument, it is unclear whether this particular court is swinging right or left. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., an appointee of President Bush, immediately questioned Pleasant Grove's decision to accept the donated Ten Commandments monument in the first place, saying it could violate the First Amendment ban on government establishment of religion. Summum's attorneys filed their challenge under a different part of the amendment, the free-speech clause.

    "What is the government doing speaking and supporting the Ten Commandments?" Roberts asked.


    I think religious displays on government property are always a bad idea. If you allow one, then you have to allow them all and accomodating every religion out there can cause quite a problem. You also have to allow religious displays from religions that, putting it politely, are not mainstream. What if Satan worshipers wanted to erect a display on the lawn of the Town Hall? We'd also have to allow people like Fred Phelps to get equal time. (I would demand that a monument dedicated to the Flying Spaghetti Monster be allowed as long as anything is allowed)

    I think keeping government property neutral on the topic of religion is the best way to go. There are ample opportunities for people to put displays on their own private property if they feel the need. It is not necessary to have the government do it for you (unless you're trying to proselytize with government resources and I think that is basically the purpose of these displays).
     
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    I can't believe there have been no comments on this article.
     
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    You know....this sounds like every other cult that I've heard.......

    They rip off some Jewish theology, combine it with other stuff and then try to tell everyone that they are the "right" ones.

    Kinda like those mixed up Arabs did when they invented Islam.
     
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    Yes, all religion is wrong and messed up because they tell people *NOT* to things that are wrong, everybody should be free to do what the hell they want, to hell with morals and values, they don't exists except in the minds of religious fundies.


    You make some of the most retarded arguments, seriously.
     
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    I am tired of this BS...free speech and religious freedom is alive and well in the US, as long as you are not a white Christian.

    Ridiculous.
     
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    Yes Ass Chucker, people SHOULD be free to do as they wish, as long as they comply with the 7 Noahide Laws, or the 10 Commandments.

    There are only a few things that God said don't do. What are you allowed to do?

    Everything else.
     
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    That's a lot of baloney.
     
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    Thats a damn lie, whites are free to say what theY want as far as religion but it just so happens that they have the biggest mouths pointing the finger at others as being less than them that when they get exposed and the heat gets on them they create the illusion thats its only them who can't freely practice their religion.
     
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    Charlie---not all religion is wrong.....just judgmental, holier than thou, big mouthed, intolerant religious people....who want to dictate their values and morals on everyone else.

    I do not care if anyone is religious, I do not care if religious writings are in our government buildings, I do not care if some government employees want to have a bible class together in their lunch break in a free office, I do not care if our money says "In God We Trust"...just force your opinions and thoughts on me and do not judge me because I think you believe in a fictional being.
     
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    What a crock of shit.
     

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