The Illusion
Energist
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Denying someone the right could be seen as selfish too. I never said otherwise, in fact if you recall I supported a person having the right to commit suicide. It's possible to be in favor or something without actually wanting it for yourself. Just ask all the non-gay supporters of gay marriage.
I knew someone would bring up medical reasons. This isn't the same to me because typically close family is aware of the situation and there has been communication. It's not Surprise! Bob's hanging from the rafters! or... Damn, I always used to think Susie looked good in red. I would still consider it selfish if someone did it for medical reasons without talking to their family first. That's really the difference to me, the communication between people.
So say that someone wanted to commit suicide and decided to by going about it in a very realistic and responsible way - allowing all of the family members to know what was happening, why, and putting all of your assets and bills in order first.. making sure the kids were going to be taken care of...etc.
What if the government put up a way of making suicide possible through means which involved testing first, counseling maybe..etc. I dont see that as being selfish in any way.
Taking ones life isnt a selfish act - its a realistic act. If someone doesnt want to live and is only causing more grief for themselves by living..why should they have to endure that suffering?
Jamie
I think you're putting a lot of effort into slicing and dicing the issue that isn't necessary. No 1 can stop anyone else from committing suicide. No 1 has to be happy about someone else committing suicide. I don't think the current system is flawed enough to want to get government even more involved in our lives.
I dont think its right that the government can lock someone up for being mentally ill if they try to commit suicide. I dont think its any of the governments business. Its a realm where they do not belong.
The government basically said that "heres a little box for you all to live and play in. We will stay on the four corner posts and watch you so nobody hurts you and so you dont kill each other..and you guys can mingle and live inside the box all you want." THEN recent times came around and the government decided they wanted to jump in the box with us and mingle and get in the way of everything. So now.. we have a box that we live in and we cannot move because the government is in our way. That is injustice and unconstitutional.
Jamie