Student Debt Forgiveness knocked down

[Hollie]

Also, it’s fighting the Fed’s attempt to tighten the money supply via interest rate hikes. Biden wanted to give affluent, college-educated professionals Other People’s Money* to go out to more steakhouses and book more upscale hotels on vacation.

*Other people as in the cashier at the department store and the guy behind the deli counter.

Sloppy Joe has favors to return as payback to the wealthy Dems / Marxists who have donated to him and the Family run crime syndicate. The people who bought the Hunter Biden’s paintings, attorney Kevin Morris who paid Hunter Biden’s $2 million tax bill, the phony promise Biden made to transfer student debt to the American public means the cash cow that feeds the Biden crime syndicate needs to be fed.

 

[Hollie]

Three responses to me? You must want attention.

Here you are responding, begging for attention, yet unable to offer a coherent response.

 

[JoeB131]

Dang, you are exactly correct. With abortion the Republicans are the dog that caught the car. Now what they gonna do?

Probably see it through to the bitter end. We kind of all saw this coming in the 1980s when Ronnie Reagan wedded the GOP to the crazy religious right. Even though their opinions are vastly unpopular, the can't walk them back.

The problem for the pro-Choice side is that up until now, they've always had the backstop of Roe to keep these guys from doing anything crazy. Now this thing is front and center.

Here you are r

Works on the assumption you merit a response.

 

[Hollie]

Works on the assumption you merit a response.

This latest response of yours is typically pointless.

 

[Stann]

6-3 against student loan payoffs. Heroes Act Biden tried to use is a big NO. Yay!

Supreme Court rejects Biden's plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loan debt

A sharply divided Supreme Court ruled Friday that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Now let's figure out a way to help ALL young people no matter what they pursue. The debt of student loans is crushing them. There's got to be a better way. We're helping our own future when we help those who are going to follow us and carry the load.

 

[Lisa558]

Now let's figure out a way to help ALL young people no matter what they pursue. The debt of student loans is crushing them. There's got to be a better way. We're helping our own future when we help those who are going to follow us and carry the load.

Yes….and I’ve laid it out before:

1) Start at community college. If you’re from a family of modest earnings, Pell Grants cover the whole thing. Otherwise, the tuition is modest.

2) Maintain a B average* and transfer to the State U for the final two years. Your tuition will be cut by a third to half with an academic transfer scholarship.

3) Work summers and winter break, applying all earnings to tuition.

Doing it this way will leave a kid with less than $20,000 in student debt….less than a car loan.

*Students with a C average in community college are not university material. They are better off going to a vocational school.

 

[dblack]

Is there any discussion, among those who think the government should cover the debts, about dismantling, or at least altering, the program that is causing the problem?

 

[JoeB131]

This latest

Are you still talking?

Now let's figure out a way to help ALL young people no matter what they pursue. The debt of student loans is crushing them. There's got to be a better way. We're helping our own future when we help those who are going to follow us and carry the load.

Shhh... Lisa doesn't care about the future... She cares about her own grievances.

Yes….and I’ve laid it out before:

1) Start at community college. If you’re from a family of modest earnings, Pell Grants cover the whole thing. Otherwise, the tuition is modest.

Have you met community colleges? I went to a City College of Chicago for one semester after I didn't get the college of my choice in HS. The coursework was less challenging than what I encountered in my Catholic High School. I got out after one semester, and was better off for it. As an aside, none of the A's and B's I got counted towards my GPA at UIC.

2) Maintain a B average* and transfer to the State U for the final two years. Your tuition will be cut by a third to half with an academic transfer scholarship.

Nope. A lot of colleges won't even take your GPA at a community college into account. UIC didn't.

3) Work summers and winter break, applying all earnings to tuition.

Sweet Evil Jesus, you can't be this fucking stupid, can you?

Minimum wage in this country is 7.25 an hour. Tuition at a state university is 13,000. you'd have to work 40 hours a week at minimum wage and you STILL wouldn't cover that.

Doing it this way will leave a kid with less than $20,000 in student debt….less than a car loan.

*Students with a C average in community college are not university material. They are better off going to a vocational school.

I got all A's in my primary courses. Do you know what brought my GPA down in college? German. I simply don't have the ability to learn other languages. Also, because UIC had a requirement, the people in the language Departments didn't have to actually give a fuck.

Most Liberal Arts colleges are dropping language requirements now. We are all better off for it.

 

[JoeB131]

Is there any discussion, among those who think the government should cover the debts, about dismantling, or at least altering, the program that is causing the problem?

Nope.

we aren't libertarian children who think the world works by Free Market Fairy Dust.

 

[dblack]

Nope.

we aren't libertarian children who think the world works by Free Market Fairy Dust.

Ahh... straight to the insults. You don't even try to make intelligent arguments. That's good. A man's got to know his limitations.

 

[Lisa558]

Are you still talking?


Shhh... Lisa doesn't care about the future... She cares about her own grievances.



Have you met community colleges? I went to a City College of Chicago for one semester after I didn't get the college of my choice in HS. The coursework was less challenging than what I encountered in my Catholic High School. I got out after one semester, and was better off for it. As an aside, none of the A's and B's I got counted towards my GPA at UIC.



Nope. A lot of colleges won't even take your GPA at a community college into account. UIC didn't.



Sweet Evil Jesus, you can't be this fucking stupid, can you?

Minimum wage in this country is 7.25 an hour. Tuition at a state university is 13,000. you'd have to work 40 hours a week at minimum wage and you STILL wouldn't cover that.




I got all A's in my primary courses. Do you know what brought my GPA down in college? German. I simply don't have the ability to learn other languages. Also, because UIC had a requirement, the people in the language Departments didn't have to actually give a fuck.

Most Liberal Arts colleges are dropping language requirements now. We are all better off for it.

You elitist asshole. You have criticisms for every solution to high educational costs but the only one you want: make other people pay for it.

What I laid out about starting at CC is an excellent solution. Even rocket scientists have started out that way! So have people who have gone on to graduate from a university with a Phi Beta Kappa key in hand.

So take your putdowns about community college and shove it where the sun don’t shine, and keep your PERSONAL attacks against me (note to readers: he knows I’m Jewish and said the most awful things about, and I quote.…”my fucking religion”) out of your posts.

 

[Hollie]

Are you still talking?

You’re still begging for attention.

 

[Lisa558]

Ahh... straight to the insults. You don't even try to make intelligent arguments. That's good. A man's got to know his limitations.

Thank you. My suggestion for students to start their first two years would cut the cost of their college degree by half or more, once you factor in the academic scholarship.

 

[Blaster]

 

[Hollie]

You elitist asshole. You have criticisms for every solution to high educational costs but the only one you want: make other people pay for it.

What I laid out about starting at CC is an excellent solution. Even rocket scientists have started out that way! So have people who have gone on to graduate from a university with a Phi Beta Kappa key in hand.

So take your putdowns about community college and shove it where the sun don’t shine, and keep your PERSONAL attacks against me (note to readers: he knows I’m Jewish and said the most awful things about, and I quote.…”my fucking religion”) out of your posts.

I think for the Dems / Socialists, “comfortably numb” is the safe space where government is the authority that you relinquish control to. There’s a wide swath of the Dem / Socialist landscape that is averse to personal responsibility, accountability and integrity. We saw that with the subservience to government control pressed relentlessly by the Dems / Marxists and the leftist media during the China virus timeframe.

 

[dblack]

Thank you. My suggestion for students to start their first two years would cut the cost of their college degree by half or more, once you factor in the academic scholarship.

We've also got to give up this blanket presumption that college is the best path for all, or even most, people. For many of us, it's just a waste of time - or a "nice to have" that's probably not worth all the debt.

 

[dblack]

You elitist asshole. You have criticisms for every solution to high educational costs but the only one you want: make other people pay for it.

In liberal speak that's called making it "affordable".

 

[Lisa558]

We've also got to give up this blanket presumption that college is the best path for all, or even most, people. For many of us, it's just a waste of time - or a "nice to have" that's probably not worth all the debt.

That’s another benefit to starting with the first two years of community college. It would reveal to the students who struggle to get Cs that university is not the place for them - and a lesson learned at a very modest cost.

In addition, a student who has a C average after his first year could make an earlier decision - and switch from an academic program to a vocational one, right there at the CC.

 

[Lisa558]

In liberal speak that's called making it "affordable".

Even worse, in liberal speak, it’s called “free”!

 

[JoeB131]

You elitist asshole. You have criticisms for every solution to high educational costs but the only one you want: make other people pay for it.

Because every solution is just more of how we got here to start with.

You see, when I went to UIC, tuition was only about $1500 a year. It was affordable if you could work your way through college. The reason why it was because the states funded the majority of University operations.

The untold story of the last 40 years is that the burden of funding universities has shifted from the states to the students.

What I laid out about starting at CC is an excellent solution. Even rocket scientists have started out that way! So have people who have gone on to graduate from a university with a Phi Beta Kappa key in hand.

Again, as someone who writes resumes, nobody is ever impressed by "community college" on your resume. I mean, it's better than nothing, but they want to see real degrees from real universities. Community colleges present the illusion that higher education is accessable.

But don't take my word for it...

âWaste of timeâ: Community college transfers derail students

Every year, hundreds of thousands of students start at community colleges hoping to transfer to a university later. It’s advertised as a cheaper path to a bachelor’s degree, an education hack in a world of ever-rising tuition costs. Yet the reality is rarely that simple. For some students, the...

universitybusiness.com

Every year, hundreds of thousands of students start at community colleges hoping to transfer to a university later. It’s advertised as a cheaper path to a bachelor’s degree, an education hack in a world of ever-rising tuition costs.

Yet the reality is rarely that simple. For some students, the transfer process becomes a maze so confusing it derails their college plans.

Among nearly 1 million students who started at a community college in 2016, just one in seven earned a bachelor’s degree within six years, according to data from the National Student Clearinghouse.

'Waste of time': Community college transfers derail students - WVUA 23

college applicationThe Associated Press America’s high school graduates are often encouraged to start at a community college before getting a bachelor’s degree, but the money-saving move rarely works as planned. National data shows just one in seven community college students gets a bachelor’s...

www.wvua23.com

National data shows just one in seven community college students gets a bachelor’s within six years. One of the biggest culprits is credit loss: when students take classes that never count toward a degree.

So take your putdowns about community college and shove it where the sun don’t shine, and keep your PERSONAL attacks against me (note to readers: he knows I’m Jewish and said the most awful things about, and I quote.…”my fucking religion”) out of your posts.

Sorry, I call them like I see them, whether it be a fraud of the College Industry or the Fraud of Religion.

You’re

still talking for some reason... I'm just not paying attention to you to you say something remotely interesting.

Thank you. My suggestion for students to start their first two years would cut the cost of their college degree by half or more, once you factor in the academic scholarship.

Again, would you fly on an airline that only has a one in seven chance of not crashing and burning?