Stigmatizing The Enemy Within

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    What is amusing about this one is, the pre colonial and post colonial eras never sought to be democratic, so calling them non democratic amounts to what?
     
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    Actually it does; he's citing the general principle behind his thoughts on that particular issue. That general principle is one followed by virtually every culture and society in history in one form or another, i.e. he's stating the obvious. I say 'virtually' on the remote chance there might be one somewhere who didn't follow that principle I'm not aware of.
     
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    Maybe reading the article linked to would help you understand what he is talking about. Most modern dictatorships will claim they are 'democratic' and paint a rosey history for whatever reason, propaganda mostly. It's not like the U.S.'s Democratic Party is going to change their Party name to something far more accurate and descriptive of their current ideology held since the early 1980's, like Racist Neo-Fascist Vermin Party or anything, for instance.
     
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    Did you follow the link provided? It has the quote in the full context of the letter. Jefferson is citing a principle, that I am unsure you are. You are using a quote in the way Trump has used quotes, when he was quoting Neo Nazis or White Supremacists.

    Jefferson is always speaking to the agricultural society that is slowly disappearing. Jefferson is usually as out of touch with reality as most who would quote him -- even, ans especially those who would quote him out of context.

    But if you want to continue, you Picaro wrote "his thoughts on that particular issue" so I would ask, what exactly do you believe the 'particular issue' was, that Jefferson was discussing?
     
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    Rather than read the linked to article, I asked you to read about the principle and particular issue you claim Jefferson was writing about. As I wrote in my previous post, if you want to continue this conversation I ask "what exactly do you believe the 'particular issue' was, that Jefferson was discussing?"
     
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    Don't need to follow the link, I've had the collection of Jefferson's letters on bookshelf, for the last three decades. Don't need some Two Minute Google Scholar to pretend to school me on Jefferson, bu thanks for your amateurish 'concern'. The fact you're unsure' about it even with it right in front of you tells me you either can't read well or just don't like the quote, nothing that need interest me, since it just makes you look more and more foolish in your attempt being 'clever' and failing.

    You don't understand context, or Jefferson for that matter. I'm well aware of Jefferson's being influenced by Bolingbrokism, but that's nothing you would know about, so no point in you trying to fake it for us.

    lol you didn't read your own link, and now you've boxed yourself in. You're done, and just playing 'I Touched You Last!!!' now. I answered your question correctly and accurately a long time ago. Whether you're happy with it or not is of no concern. Keep looking silly, as it seems to be all you can do.
     
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    Where do you people come from? Is there a web site or club you all meet at?
     
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    That’s why we have to reject any attempt to stigmatize Muslim-Americans, and their enormous contributions to our country and our way of life...Such attempts are contrary to our character, to our values, and to our history as a nation built around the idea of religious freedom. It’s also counterproductive...It plays right into the hands of terrorists who want to turn us against one another.

    The president is, of course, correct – and those with an unwarranted animosity toward Muslims are wrong.
     
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    In my opinion it is possible: the problem occurs if a limited authoritarian fanatics gets the right to write laws for the whole country.

    Just one example, Hungary's prime minister and some of his ideas, this is do reflect his simple and limited world of thought.

    Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s Interview with BILD Zeitung (Germany)

    BILD:
    "Does one of the dangers you are warning about include “Islamisation”?"

    PM of Hungary, Viktor Orbán:
    "I personally have great respect for Islam. Without Islamic philosophy, part of the world would have fallen prey to barbarism centuries ago. But once again, we mustn’t fool ourselves: immigration would lead to a majority Muslim population in Europe within the foreseeable future. If Europe allows cultures to compete, then the Christians will find themselves on the losing side. These are facts. The only way out for those who want to preserve Europe as a Christian culture is not to allow more and more Muslims into Europe. But this is something that Europe’s leading politicians are unwilling to talk about."

    Or one other:
    http://www.kormany.hu/en/the-prime-...a-global-mass-migration-to-change-our-country

    Mr. Orbán told them: "You are the defenders of our culture, lifestyle and sovereignty”. tn496c0(4).jpg

    My questions:
    Really? The culture need with gun to protect? What the term "attack" explanation? Acceptable that, they with weapons threaten the unarmed and starving poor people?
     
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    Fortunately there isn't hardly any 'unwarranted animosity' toward Islam; it's history is clear and obvious. Sane people don't worry about offending terrorists, any more than we should have worried about making Hitler and his Nazis or the Japanese 'angry with us and playing into their hands'. It's a ridiculous and idiotic premise, made by a 'President' who just agreed to nuclear arm a nation of insane Mullahs who routinely announce they are going to commit genocide aganst one of our allies.
     

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