Starting to lean left

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Nowadays ....


Today 11:56 AM
by Hollie

Today 08:26 AM
by Koios

11/29/2012 9:23
by BreezeWood

11/28/2012 5:15
by Harry Dresden

11/27/2012 22:57
by OKTexas

11/27/2012 19:59
by HUGGY

11/16/2012 9:39
by Jos

11/13/2012 12:15
by Avatar4321

11/13/2012 8:02
by Toro

11/9/2012 15:29
by Toro

10/28/2012 7:30
by GoneBezerk

10/18/2012 8:41
by bitterlyclingin

10/11/2012 14:10
by Vast LWC

10/10/2012 16:02
by Uncensored2008

10/10/2012 6:39
by CMike

10/6/2012 9:50
by AmyNation

10/5/2012 15:41
by NYcarbineer

10/4/2012 20:49
by Amelia

10/4/2012 9:50
by Plasmaball

9/26/2012 13:38
by LOki

9/25/2012 19:55
by Misty

9/23/2012 15:18
by Matthew

9/23/2012 7:46
by Dot Com

More frequent, by orders of magnitude. But as to: 'Is it used by Libs v Cons, ad nasseum?', I defer to you, kwc57, since as you've noted, I'm the noob.

Whadaya think?

i think you're an asshat

 

[Si modo]

Where is began ...

10/31/2008 19:11
by Zoomie1980

10/27/2008 14:42
by Bass v 2.0

10/17/2008 11:12
by glockmail

10/12/2008 18:34
by xsited1

10/12/2008 0:07
by DiveCon

9/26/2008 17:36
by HoleInTheVoid

9/25/2008 11:29
by busara

8/11/2008 8:57
by editec

8/4/2008 8:06
by Shogun

7/4/2008 12:18
by GasolineBlues

5/11/2008 13:21
by Anguille

5/10/2008 15:42
by Ravi

4/10/2008 11:06
by Ravi

3/7/2008 17:08
by Larkinn

1/4/2008 9:55
by Waterrescuedude

11/20/2007 16:35
by RetiredGySgt

8/17/2007 21:22
by Ruby

11/15/2006 12:28
by OCA

10/17/2006 3:47
by glockmail

6/21/2006 10:39
by LOki

1/19/2006 19:50
by Annie

1/9/2006 8:36
by Annie

12/10/2005 1:25
by Powerman

10/24/2005 20:02
by LuvRPgrl

Once every coupla months ...

Yup, that looks about 50/50.

Now, what is your "issue" again?

Cool. Which are which? If it's easier, just bold the Libs.

TIA,
-K

Make your own decisions about posters, ya lazy fuckchop.

 

[Koios]

Nowadays ....


Today 11:56 AM
by Hollie

Today 08:26 AM
by Koios

11/29/2012 9:23
by BreezeWood

11/28/2012 5:15
by Harry Dresden

11/27/2012 22:57
by OKTexas

11/27/2012 19:59
by HUGGY

11/16/2012 9:39
by Jos

11/13/2012 12:15
by Avatar4321

11/13/2012 8:02
by Toro

11/9/2012 15:29
by Toro

10/28/2012 7:30
by GoneBezerk

10/18/2012 8:41
by bitterlyclingin

10/11/2012 14:10
by Vast LWC

10/10/2012 16:02
by Uncensored2008

10/10/2012 6:39
by CMike

10/6/2012 9:50
by AmyNation

10/5/2012 15:41
by NYcarbineer

10/4/2012 20:49
by Amelia

10/4/2012 9:50
by Plasmaball

9/26/2012 13:38
by LOki

9/25/2012 19:55
by Misty

9/23/2012 15:18
by Matthew

9/23/2012 7:46
by Dot Com

More frequent, by orders of magnitude. But as to: 'Is it used by Libs v Cons, ad nasseum?', I defer to you, kwc57, since as you've noted, I'm the noob.

Whadaya think?

i think you're an asshat

You may be half right, since the first part, "i think" is obviously wrong.

 

[G.T.]

Altruism is proven when one gives their life for another, and especially when the one doing the sacrificing has no belief in an after life.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I have decided I like the lefty ideology. I just turned in my 2 weeks notice at work. Decided it would be easier if I just sat on my ass and make just as much if not more in benifits. "Share the wealth" has started getting my juices going. Just because they are successfull does not mean they shouldnt pay more in taxes, right? Just because we are spending ourselves into oblivion does not mean we should stop spending right? Fuck spending cuts! Thats for the birds!

What kind of shit job do you have that government benefits would pay you more?

 

[del]

Nowadays ....


Today 11:56 AM
by Hollie

Today 08:26 AM
by Koios

11/29/2012 9:23
by BreezeWood

11/28/2012 5:15
by Harry Dresden

11/27/2012 22:57
by OKTexas

11/27/2012 19:59
by HUGGY

11/16/2012 9:39
by Jos

11/13/2012 12:15
by Avatar4321

11/13/2012 8:02
by Toro

11/9/2012 15:29
by Toro

10/28/2012 7:30
by GoneBezerk

10/18/2012 8:41
by bitterlyclingin

10/11/2012 14:10
by Vast LWC

10/10/2012 16:02
by Uncensored2008

10/10/2012 6:39
by CMike

10/6/2012 9:50
by AmyNation

10/5/2012 15:41
by NYcarbineer

10/4/2012 20:49
by Amelia

10/4/2012 9:50
by Plasmaball

9/26/2012 13:38
by LOki

9/25/2012 19:55
by Misty

9/23/2012 15:18
by Matthew

9/23/2012 7:46
by Dot Com

More frequent, by orders of magnitude. But as to: 'Is it used by Libs v Cons, ad nasseum?', I defer to you, kwc57, since as you've noted, I'm the noob.

Whadaya think?

i think you're an asshat

You may be half right, since the first part, "i think" is obviously wrong.

that's a long way to go for nothing

i'm sensing a trend

 

[Oddball]

Altruism is proven when one gives their life for another, and especially when the one doing the sacrificing has no belief in an after life.

All that tells me is that the person who gave his life valued the life of the other person more so than his own.

 

[G.T.]

Altruism is proven when one gives their life for another, and especially when the one doing the sacrificing has no belief in an after life.

All that tells me is that the person who gave his life valued the life of the other person more so than his own.

That doesn't make any sense, death is an absolute.

Your whole point is that the appearance of altruism is actually *always selfishness or self-reward seeking, and taking your own life to save another's is as selfless as it gets. One doesn't go on to reap any reward in death, so you'd have a hard time explaining the self-reward.

 

[Oddball]

Altruism is proven when one gives their life for another, and especially when the one doing the sacrificing has no belief in an after life.

All that tells me is that the person who gave his life valued the life of the other person more so than his own.

That doesn't make any sense, death is an absolute.

Your whole point is that the appearance of altruism is actually *always selfishness or self-reward seeking, and taking your own life to save another's is as selfless as it gets. One doesn't go on to reap any reward in death, so you'd have a hard time explaining the self-reward.

Death being absolute doesn't change anything and rewards are subjective expressions of value.

Only the values system of the person doing the acting is relevant...And if that person gives his own life so another may live tells me that they value the life of the other person more so than their own life...Were that not the case, they wouldn't be motivated to give up that life.

 

[G.T.]

All that tells me is that the person who gave his life valued the life of the other person more so than his own.

That doesn't make any sense, death is an absolute.

Your whole point is that the appearance of altruism is actually *always selfishness or self-reward seeking, and taking your own life to save another's is as selfless as it gets. One doesn't go on to reap any reward in death, so you'd have a hard time explaining the self-reward.

Death being absolute doesn't change anything.

Only the values system of the person doing the acting is relevant...And if that person gives his own life so another may live tells me that they value the life of the other person more so than their own life...Were that not the case, they wouldn't be motivated to give up that life.

Which is what altruism is.

 

[del]

Altruism is proven when one gives their life for another, and especially when the one doing the sacrificing has no belief in an after life.

All that tells me is that the person who gave his life valued the life of the other person more so than his own.

that's because you're more than somewhat dim

 

[Ravi]

That doesn't make any sense, death is an absolute.

Your whole point is that the appearance of altruism is actually *always selfishness or self-reward seeking, and taking your own life to save another's is as selfless as it gets. One doesn't go on to reap any reward in death, so you'd have a hard time explaining the self-reward.

Death being absolute doesn't change anything.

Only the values system of the person doing the acting is relevant...And if that person gives his own life so another may live tells me that they value the life of the other person more so than their own life...Were that not the case, they wouldn't be motivated to give up that life.

Which is what altruism is.

Yeah, there's not much in it for myself in that scenario. Poor Dud.

 

[Oddball]

That doesn't make any sense, death is an absolute.

Your whole point is that the appearance of altruism is actually *always selfishness or self-reward seeking, and taking your own life to save another's is as selfless as it gets. One doesn't go on to reap any reward in death, so you'd have a hard time explaining the self-reward.

Death being absolute doesn't change anything.

Only the values system of the person doing the acting is relevant...And if that person gives his own life so another may live tells me that they value the life of the other person more so than their own life...Were that not the case, they wouldn't be motivated to give up that life.

Which is what altruism is.

Y'know what?...I'm gonna shock you...I'm going to give you the point.

Altruism = self-immolation.

You win.

 

[del]

seal immolation?

is that like being the only freak on a leash that can handle this place?

 

[G.T.]

Death being absolute doesn't change anything.

Only the values system of the person doing the acting is relevant...And if that person gives his own life so another may live tells me that they value the life of the other person more so than their own life...Were that not the case, they wouldn't be motivated to give up that life.

Which is what altruism is.

Y'know what?...I'm gonna shock you...I'm going to give you the point.

Altruism = self-immolation.

You win.

Altruism is basically valuing the well being of others in a given scenario over your own. Like taking a hit in the wallet to give a gift in attempt to make someone else happy.....or the ultimate example, dying for someone. All of the levels in-between. And you provided the proof that it exists, inadvertantly, by stating that one *can* value someone else more than themselves. They can do so monetarily, they can do so physically.

Self-gain is not non-existent either, which is obvious. "I wanted to make you happy, 'cuz it makes me happy to make you happy."

I'm sure that they're just ill, and not actually altruistic.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Y'know what?...I'm gonna shock you...I'm going to give you the point.

Altruism = seal-immolation.

You win.

Seal immolation?

Dayum, that's worse than what the canucks do with the clubbing...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Altruism is basically valuing the well being of others in a given scenario over your own.

So it would be mental illness then?

Like taking a hit in the wallet to give a gift in attempt to make someone else happy.....

Nah, that is always done for selfish reasons. I give to the poor because poverty destabilizes society and a stable society serves me and my family.

or the ultimate example, dying for someone. All of the levels in-between. And you provided the proof that it exists, inadvertantly, by stating that one *can* value someone else more than themselves. They can do so monetarily, they can do so physically.

If you die for your own progeny you do so to ensure the continuation of your genes, ergo it is selfish.

Self-gain is not non-existent either, which is obvious. "I wanted to make you happy, 'cuz it makes me happy to make you happy."

I'm sure that they're just ill, and not actually altruistic.

Yep, mental illness...

 

[Oddball]

Which is what altruism is.

Y'know what?...I'm gonna shock you...I'm going to give you the point.

Altruism = self-mmolation.

You win.

Altruism is basically valuing the well being of others in a given scenario over your own. Like taking a hit in the wallet to give a gift in attempt to make someone else happy.....or the ultimate example, dying for someone. All of the levels in-between. And you provided the proof that it exists, inadvertantly, by stating that one *can* value someone else more than themselves. They can do so monetarily, they can do so physically.

Self-gain is not non-existent either, which is obvious. "I wanted to make you happy, 'cuz it makes me happy to make you happy."

I'm sure that they're just ill, and not actually altruistic.

You just gave a very wordy dissembling on my very simple equation.

Altruism = self-immolation.

The natural extreme of this invariably ends up harkening to the stale old scenario of the soldier throwing himself on the live grenade, so his platoon buddies or some children won't be harmed...All I get out of that is that professed "altruists" are borderline masochists, who hold immolation and, ultimately, death amongst their highest values.

You'll be so kind as excuse me from wanting to associate myself with such pessimistic, dark and ghoulish people, thankyouverymuch.

 

[Oddball]

Y'know what?...I'm gonna shock you...I'm going to give you the point.

Altruism = seal-immolation.

You win.

Seal immolation?

Dayum, that's worse than what the canucks do with the clubbing...

Tyops happen man.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Tyops happen man.

Yeah, but that one was funny, so I had to comment.

POOOOFFF - another seal up in flames...