Bull Ring Spiritual vs. Physical definitions: Prolife vs. LGBT beliefs

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  1. emilynghiem
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    This thread is started to continue from a post between Baz Ares and Chuz Life
    Political Cartoon
    that doesn't really belong under "political cartoons" where I found it.

    My challenge to both BA and CL:
    Can we agree to respect SEPARATE definitions
    between "physical and legal status" vs. SPIRITUAL faith-based or internal definitions
    in both these cases below:

    * in prolife cases, people don't agree on the legal definition of when life begins for a person:
    - one side argues spiritually it begins before birth, but this is FAITH BASED when a person's soul or consciousness enters the body
    - the other side demands adherence to purely SECULAR legal definition of physical birth to recognize human rights and will

    * in LGBT cases, people don't agree on the legal definition of gender or orientation for person's rights
    - one side demands adherence to purely SECULAR SCIENTIFIC definitions of gender by birth and genetics
    - the other side argues to recognize INTERNAL faith based identity or orientation regardless of physical genes

    My challenge to Baz Ares and Chuz Life
    Can we settle this by agreeing to treat these cases equally
    - agree to SEPARATE the physical from the faith based definitions
    and not impose or require one in place of the other
    - agree to either SEPARATE terms of policies where both sides don't agree
    on the spiritual/faith based part of these arguments, and allows
    BOTH SIDES to have their OWN BELIEFS without imposing on the other side that disagrees
    - find where both sides agree, and stick to that for secular policies,
    instead of letting the faith based belief either be established or prohibited by secular laws.

    That's my challenge to both of you.
    Can you answer and explain how you would go about
    treating both beliefs equally, or if you still believe in
    projecting your beliefs in one case then protesting
    when other people do that in the other case.

    Is that fair to impose beliefs in either case on people who disagree and believe differently?

    What approach seems most fair to you so all people are respected equally
    regardless of our diverse beliefs on these issues above? Thank you!
     
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    Hey DOPer CL.

    be·ing
    Dictionary result for being
    /ˈbēiNG/
    noun
    1. 1.
      existence.
      "the railroad brought many towns into being"
      synonyms: existence, living, life, animation, animateness, aliveness, reality, actuality, essential nature, lifeblood, vital force, entity;
      "she finds herself warmed by his very being"

    'living, life' ALIVE!

    Egg= 'living, life' ALIVE!
    Sperm= 'living, life' ALIVE!

    Females once a month till too old makes an egg. (Egg= 'living, life' ALIVE! aka GOO)
    The Goo (aka: egg) stays alive for 24 hours till washed away. Both the female and lord' just committed murder in your book by not getting the goo fertilized.
    So it can live on as GOO! Does this meet your freely spewing BS standards? As you want to label conception a person (based on Living, Life).

    Sperm (White GOO, funny how all races squirt White Sperm, animals and fish as well. No matter what skin color) is a collection of living cells. Kinda like polliwogs.
    That be life. So every time I pull out and squirt my load on someone, I just murdered them. Not allowing them to stay protected, to travel deep into the host.
    So I guess when I rub one out, I'm now a genocidal mass murderer of life.


    Life is not all equal.
     
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    I can not do this request any justice on my phone.

    Will come back to this as soon as possible.

    Challenge Accepted.
     
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    OOPS, Forgot. Is this your Person in there?.

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    Maybe we drill a hole in these Oven baking Mini-Vans?

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    And tell your person in there to get a waterproof Cell phone case.
    FFS!? All that polluted liquids in there. Nasty!

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    Quick question. . .

    Where does the spiritual part of this thread come from? Which one of us does it pertain too?

    I am not religious and I don't use religious references.
     
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    Also, LGBT?

    Dafuq is that all about?
     
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    Well, there is hope for you, to know religions are FAKE and there are no lords' or gods'!
    :113: Makes this easier, presenting fewer difficulties address loads of nonsense.

    Most Pro-Lifers use a fake lord' of some kind, in the case they make on GOO development states.
    Interesting in the 26 versions of the Christan Raping Manual of Children, called Bible books has no
    scientific data in it to prove thier unless BS on the matter. As it is a personal matter of one's FEELINGS
    on the matter in the first place.

    So you are working from mixed up cloudy personal FEELINGS here. SOooo..Weak they Be.
    You have issues dealing with them in your head. Why do others (the BORN) need to suffer
    for your weak FEELINGS? Tell me the last time you cried for other peoples GOO that failed to be born?
    Can you keep up?

    How much of your personal time, on your own time do you spend on the matter?
    How much do you personally spend on this matter?. To save these Goo parasites,
    do you offer to buy the GOO's from the Mom? Have you provided a bed in your own home to protect
    the so-called person (still GOO) you want to call a person? Have you spoken to the person (GOO) Baking
    in these ovens? If a Person it may want to die. are you against suicide? As you want to call it a person.

    What are your feelings on the BORN with at least some kind of Long Form Birther Paperwork?
    Do the papers matter here for you? Are All BORN equal? Or are some worth less than others?

    Can we get the HOST to give birth to the Fetus, now a BORN Person? So we can deal with your personal feelings on the matter?
    Will you fully fund the production of spawns to be born?

    Should the State (any Gobmint body) fund its needs to live as a BORN person? Or do what Sparta did.
    Take it out on a cliff to inspect it, if its good put in a work camp to pay its way for the state. If defective
    toss of the cliff to feed the local Dumps Critters?

    Some states in the U.S. Executes persons, some have a minimum age to do so. But why does this matter?
    Are you Pro-Death Penalty?
     
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    Well.

    Clearly this will be a short conversation.

    [​IMG]

    Obviously not.
     
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    Drop the BS here in sig. The 14th sets the terms of what a person needs to MEET! In your weak case, Goo is a Person. FFS!?
    The Qualifier is the word 'BORN' to be a person. Even with these morons in 1789 involved here.
    Wrote this poorly. You need to get it rewritten to meet your feelings on the matter, you so wrongly apply to.


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    I do want old spews of 1789 forward updated to the 21st Century.

    And BTW:Immunities does not help your case. 'Citizens' The Qualifier is the word 'BORN'

    "he Privileges and Immunities Clause (U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1, also known as the Comity Clause) prevents a state from treating citizens of other states in a discriminatory manner. Additionally, a right of interstate travel may plausibly be inferred from the clause."
     
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    WEAK. Picking on writing style, as no reply to the post.
    If you need clarification? Just ask. I can help you.
     
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