Spill, baby spill....42,000 gallons a day

[gslack]

I understand the valves didn't blow out.... it was the entire pipe from the well head up. So if that is correct no valves would mattered... But again with so much crap being thrown around its hard to tell whats truth right now....

Well I can tell you one thing... HB has friends in both low and high places. And not just on one party or the other. yeah Dick was their CEO, but if ya look at their history its been a revolving door of ex defense with them and Carlyle.... How in the hell could they have gotten all those no bid contracts in Iraq without backing on both sides? As much evidence for conflict of interest there was, a case could have been made at any time. no one tried despite all their big placating talk. They wanted them doing it just as much as the neo-cons. A lot of money was made. Big time FU kind of money was passed around all across the party lines.

HB will be quietly forgotten in this, and BP or Oil in general will pay for it. As much money was spent to check on anything in Obama's past, there is no way in hell campaign money from BP and them having contracts with HB would not have been missed... It was missed though and the reason is simple. They all get fat from the same tit...

biker we have an entire culture of people who walk around the 5,000 lbs. elephant in the room and go on about there lives. THink of companies like HB or carlyle as that elephant....

Want to know why? The shutoff valves were NOT FULLY TESTED TO US STANDARDS.

The slurry concrete (self heating) that was used to reinforce the wellhead? It was what CAUSED THE METHANE CRYSTALS TO BECOME GAS!

And..........to top it off, the fucking scientists have NO CLUE as to how to fix it.

Why do you defend this shit?

I don't think this is slackers first rodeo. No doubt he has been banned on several occasions on every MB he has pushed his ego centric style. Little miss can't be wrong has been seeking a MB site where he can recieve his full measure of ass kicked. He guessed right.

Gunny tried to cut him some slack but gave up.

I don't really have any feelings about him other than a wish that he had a sense of humor....starting with an examination of his own need for attention.

I don't think he has the blending skills of a snake like The Twat from California and will eventually repeat himself to nauseum on a night when the administrator is drinking and the collision will no doubt be swift and ugly.

Just sayin....

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Still upset are you? Go and cry all you want to.... All I did was point out your behavior, I didn't lie or exaggerate, or make anything up... You have issues with your sexuality pal, and its blatant..

once again douchebag, gunny was under a misunderstanding of what was going on, and he made it very clear his thoughts on you..... I explained and that was that...

Now why don't you do the best thing you can do for yourself and stay away from me? You tried the veiled threat tactic, tried the homo tactic, and neither of them worked out for you... matter of fact those attempts made you look even worse...

You think I embarrassed you? Well buddy YOU did that to yourself, and you continue it now.. All you have to do is leave me alone..

 

[ABikerSailor]

Wrong. HB and the deals made with Cheney in secret WH meetings are being asked about.

Eventually it's gonna come to light, and I hope Cheney is placed in Spandau Prison.

Matter of fact, I wish for both him and Bush Jr. to be placed there for life.

 

[HUGGY]

Want to know why? The shutoff valves were NOT FULLY TESTED TO US STANDARDS.

The slurry concrete (self heating) that was used to reinforce the wellhead? It was what CAUSED THE METHANE CRYSTALS TO BECOME GAS!

And..........to top it off, the fucking scientists have NO CLUE as to how to fix it.

Why do you defend this shit?

I don't think this is slackers first rodeo. No doubt he has been banned on several occasions on every MB he has pushed his ego centric style. Little miss can't be wrong has been seeking a MB site where he can receive his full measure of ass kicked. He guessed right.

Gunny tried to cut him some slack but gave up.

I don't really have any feelings about him other than a wish that he had a sense of humor....starting with an examination of his own need for attention.

I don't think he has the blending skills of a snake like The Twat from California and will eventually repeat himself to nauseum on a night when the administrator is drinking and the collision will no doubt be swift and ugly.

Just sayin....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYck2B_0-DI]YouTube - beatles - sexy sadie[/ame]

Still upset are you? Go and cry all you want to.... All I did was point out your behavior, I didn't lie or exaggerate, or make anything up... You have issues with your sexuality pal, and its blatant..

once again douchebag gunny was under a misunderstanding of what was going on, and he made it very clear his thoughts on you..... I explained and that was that...

Now why don't you do the best thing you can do for yourself and stay away from me? You tried the veiled threat tactic, tried the homo tactic, and neither of them worked out for you... matter of fact those attempts made you look even worse...

You think I embarrassed you? Well buddy YOU did that to yourself, and you continue it now.. All you have to do is leave me alone..

How amusing... Where did I mention that you embarrassed me? I have to leave you alone? You do not know me...It is only courteous that I fix that omission and make it right.

I'll contribute to this MB as I have and will at Gunnys pleasure. Not yours fuckwit.

No doubt there will be a target rich environment as you repeat your blather endlessly.

My "schtick" with "The List" and the attached HOMO CAGE doesn't require your comment. You don't have to provide the weak crack in your armour. You can ignore me. You do not.

There are thousands of members here on USMB. I only pick on a handful. I even get the occasional pos rep from those I treat the worst. They understand that the price of what they bring here may be equal to what they offer and challenged in a variety of ways. I have carved out my way of doing that ...it is tried and true. Many take placement on "The List" as a badge of honor. Those that take a "List" ing are at least honest and do not get harrsssed. At this point it will cost you extra to even make the list. I like pctures of large Blue Dobermans.

If you come with demands you will be driven into the dirt.

In short..If you want respect..earn it.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

It would appear NOLA.com is attempted to inspire an unruly mob. This is the front page article right now:

News comment of the day: "This is a slap in the face" | NOLA.com


Its an excellent idea. Give me a pitchfork and I'm ready to go.

 

[California Girl]

It would appear NOLA.com is attempted to inspire an unruly mob. This is the front page article right now:

News comment of the day: "This is a slap in the face" | NOLA.com


Its an excellent idea. Give me a pitchfork and I'm ready to go.

Buy your own fucking pitchfork. Jeeeez, do you expect other people to provide everything for you?

 

[westwall]

It would appear NOLA.com is attempted to inspire an unruly mob. This is the front page article right now:

News comment of the day: "This is a slap in the face" | NOLA.com


Its an excellent idea. Give me a pitchfork and I'm ready to go.

Buy your own fucking pitchfork. Jeeeez, do you expect other people to provide everything for you?

Sadly yes he does....toober is the typical lib "protester" they have no vehicle of their own so they have to be bussed to the area of demonstration, they are un-employable so they have to be fed and given a little spending money, they have no imagination or skills to speak of so they have to be given the script, signs and tools of the demonstration, and finally when all is over, due to their complete lack of a sense of direction they must be led back to their original place of residence...usually moms house.

 

[gslack]

Wrong. HB and the deals made with Cheney in secret WH meetings are being asked about.

Eventually it's gonna come to light, and I hope Cheney is placed in Spandau Prison.

Matter of fact, I wish for both him and Bush Jr. to be placed there for life.

What's going to come to light? it's already been in the light for nearly a decade.... I hope all who profit from death and destruction is such manner get what they deserve, but sadly right now they are in a select group of untouchables. Obama, Bush, makes no matter for HB its business as usual... Sorry but it s the plain truth of it..

 

[gslack]

I don't think this is slackers first rodeo. No doubt he has been banned on several occasions on every MB he has pushed his ego centric style. Little miss can't be wrong has been seeking a MB site where he can receive his full measure of ass kicked. He guessed right.

Gunny tried to cut him some slack but gave up.

I don't really have any feelings about him other than a wish that he had a sense of humor....starting with an examination of his own need for attention.

I don't think he has the blending skills of a snake like The Twat from California and will eventually repeat himself to nauseum on a night when the administrator is drinking and the collision will no doubt be swift and ugly.

Just sayin....

YouTube - beatles - sexy sadie

Still upset are you? Go and cry all you want to.... All I did was point out your behavior, I didn't lie or exaggerate, or make anything up... You have issues with your sexuality pal, and its blatant..

once again douchebag gunny was under a misunderstanding of what was going on, and he made it very clear his thoughts on you..... I explained and that was that...

Now why don't you do the best thing you can do for yourself and stay away from me? You tried the veiled threat tactic, tried the homo tactic, and neither of them worked out for you... matter of fact those attempts made you look even worse...

You think I embarrassed you? Well buddy YOU did that to yourself, and you continue it now.. All you have to do is leave me alone..

How amusing... Where did I mention that you embarrassed me? I have to leave you alone? You do not know me...It is only courteous that I fix that omission and make it right.

I'll contribute to this MB as I have and will at Gunnys pleasure. Not yours fuckwit.

No doubt there will be a target rich environment as you repeat your blather endlessly.

My "schtick" with "The List" and the attached HOMO CAGE doesn't require your comment. You don't have to provide the weak crack in your armour. You can ignore me. You do not.

There are thousands of members here on USMB. I only pick on a handful. I even get the occasional pos rep from those I treat the worst. They understand that the price of what they bring here may be equal to what they offer and challenged in a variety of ways. I have carved out my way of doing that ...it is tried and true. Many take placement on "The List" as a badge of honor. Those that take a "List" ing are at least honest and do not get harrsssed. At this point it will cost you extra to even make the list. I like pctures of large Blue Dobermans.

If you come with demands you will be driven into the dirt.

In short..If you want respect..earn it.

You didn't mention it, the fact you stalk me and act like an ignorant child tells the tale....

Stop being so melodramatic.... I am not making demands on you, I am telling you how to avoid dealing with me... You come and start it I will defend myself and give back what I get if not more.... No demands you little drama queen, just a statement of fact. YOU attack me and I will give it back to YOU....

You have sexuality issues pal, like them or not, admit them or not, you have them plain as day. What kind of adult sits in a thread and talks about putting people in a "homo cage"? Dude you have issues...

Oh good now get to see your arrogance at work... Nice.... Tell us all about how YOU decide whats what and who is who asshole... If you are god in your thread, then go to it and ignore me... jesus, you pompous ass... I don't give a fuck who thinks you are witty, charming, or brilliant. I think you are a pompous little asshole, who thinks he is far more than what he really is. If your little friends think you are a genius thats all well and good, go and play mutual ass kissing society all you want... just don't expect me to play along with it...

Oh grow up drama queen, you ain't driving anyone into the dirt. I have simply pointed out your ignorance, your psychosis and your hypocrisy, if you don't like it kiss my ass...

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Wrong. HB and the deals made with Cheney in secret WH meetings are being asked about.

Eventually it's gonna come to light, and I hope Cheney is placed in Spandau Prison.

Matter of fact, I wish for both him and Bush Jr. to be placed there for life.

ABS, You and I pretty much agree on this tragedy, but don't get sucked into the party line brother. Yes, Bush and Cheney have their part, but the madman Obama is controlled by the same puppet masters my friend. You know that, you're smart. What is important is exposing the android dumb ass morons who support anything their Party does. They are the enablers bro.~BH

Obama to Open Offshore Areas to Oil Drilling for First Time - NYTimes.com

 

[ABikerSailor]

Personal opinion? Before Obama opened up drilling in the Gulf again, he should have checked a bit deeper.

However, the MMS agency was totally corrupt before Obama took over. Remember the dude that was snorting meth off a toaster?

He's one of the top dogs in that agency. He should have been fired when Obama took over.

 

[HUGGY]

Personal opinion? Before Obama opened up drilling in the Gulf again, he should have checked a bit deeper.

However, the MMS agency was totally corrupt before Obama took over. Remember the dude that was snorting meth off a toaster?

He's one of the top dogs in that agency. He should have been fired when Obama took over.

Unfortunately Obama came into the White House with the building on fire figuratively. Bush appointed hundreds of positions based on political donations and hundreds at the bequest of the industries lobbiests. It will take a year or more to weed out the incompetant and the subversive. This spill should put a new urgency in addressing something he probably was hoping his leadership could overcome by just being at the top of the food chain. Also he was trying to be bi partisan to get some of his legislation passed. It would have been played to the media as a witch hunt if he purged all of the idiots out of positions that he should have.

 

[gslack]

Jesus christ guys, How many ways can you find to excuse this bullshit before you decode enough is enough? Its not a party thing. Party politics is the show they keep us busy with while they do whatever they please.....

 

[HUGGY]

My point is that we are still at risk. The regulators did not come into their positions as Obama appointments. Much of this industry regulatory framework has been in place for over thirty years. Obviously there has been a problem with adaquate testing of the systems used. There is NO room for error within the parimeters of the safe operation of the equipment and oil drilling capping systems. SOMETHING obviously was overlooked or bypassed.. If a machine of any kind is crucial enough there are means to test everything down to the smallest screw in it with xrays and on and on.

Obama was not involved nor did he sign off on any of this. He does have it in his power to see that it is not repeated.

If it is the self heating cement that was the problem then that could have also been tested. Something was missed and someone made the decision to overlook it.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know Huggy, there's a saying that I learned a long time ago........

Once is happenstance, twice is circumstance and third time is overt enemy action.

Halliburton has fucked up 3 times now. First, with the renovations of Walter Reed that didn't happen.

Second, with fucked up way that they built the barracks in the Green Zone of Iraq. The wiring killed several soldiers because it electrocuted them in the shower.

Those 2 happened while Bush Jr. and Cheney were in office and reflected the incredible amount of incompetence by that company, which was awarded those contracts in a no bid contract.

Now? Seems that they've fucked up yet again with their government connections and shitty work in the Gulf of Mexico.

I wanna see those fuckers hung out to dry.

 

[gslack]

My point is that we are still at risk. The regulators did not come into their positions as Obama appointments. Much of this industry regulatory framework has been in place for over thirty years. Obviously there has been a problem with adaquate testing of the systems used. There is NO room for error within the parimeters of the safe operation of the equipment and oil drilling capping systems. SOMETHING obviously was overlooked or bypassed.. If a machine of any kind is crucial enough there are means to test everything down to the smallest screw in it with xrays and on and on.

Obama was not involved nor did he sign off on any of this. He does have it in his power to see that it is not repeated.

If it is the self heating cement that was the problem then that could have also been tested. Something was missed and someone made the decision to overlook it.

And obama was on their payroll through campaign money so the band played on... He opened up more areas for this type of thing and in so doing showed his duplicity either by complacency or by intent.

This proves that party politics is bullshit...

 

[HUGGY]

You know Huggy, there's a saying that I learned a long time ago........

Once is happenstance, twice is circumstance and third time is overt enemy action.

Halliburton has fucked up 3 times now. First, with the renovations of Walter Reed that didn't happen.

Second, with fucked up way that they built the barracks in the Green Zone of Iraq. The wiring killed several soldiers because it electrocuted them in the shower.

Those 2 happened while Bush Jr. and Cheney were in office and reflected the incredible amount of incompetence by that company, which was awarded those contracts in a no bid contract.

Now? Seems that they've fucked up yet again with their government connections and shitty work in the Gulf of Mexico.

I wanna see those fuckers hung out to dry.

Well someone internal to the Obama administration has convinced them that a company on the verge of bankruptsy when Bush took office is now the last word in the industry. There had better be a fresh look at HB. Oil is drilled all over the planet. We have the best scientific minds and engineers on the planet. Heads have to roll and those that failed need to be hung out to dry and spin in the wind. Maybe even prosecuted criminally to send a message that taking even the slightest risk with the planet will not be tolorated. I know that if this had been done by the Chineezz someone would already have been executed.

 

[boedicca]

I'm not sure if this has been posted already, but it appears that The White House enaged in a cover-up.

The White House allowed BP to hide its video feed of a gushing oil pipe in the Gulf of Mexico from the public for three weeks, all the while that same video played live in the White House Situation Room, ABC reports.

This startling revelation comes just as Obama prepares to get really angry in public about the spill – just in time to cover up his administration’s collusion with BP to hide the true extent of the massive disaster in the Gulf.

Brian Ross and John Soloman of the Center for Public Integrity discussed ABC’s quest to obtain the video of the oil pipe and revealed that the White House consented to the release of a 30 second clip of the pipe.

"At the end of the day, the White House finally acquiesced to the 30 second piece because they understood the political and media pressure," said CPI’s John Soloman. "Why not sooner? It’s been going on for three weeks. People have seen this internally within government almost every day. Why can’t the American people see it?"...


White House Allowed BP to Keep Video of Gushing Pipe from Public for Three Weeks | The Seminal

 

[gslack]

You know Huggy, there's a saying that I learned a long time ago........

Once is happenstance, twice is circumstance and third time is overt enemy action.

Halliburton has fucked up 3 times now. First, with the renovations of Walter Reed that didn't happen.

Second, with fucked up way that they built the barracks in the Green Zone of Iraq. The wiring killed several soldiers because it electrocuted them in the shower.

Those 2 happened while Bush Jr. and Cheney were in office and reflected the incredible amount of incompetence by that company, which was awarded those contracts in a no bid contract.

Now? Seems that they've fucked up yet again with their government connections and shitty work in the Gulf of Mexico.

I wanna see those fuckers hung out to dry.

Well someone internal to the Obama administration has convinced them that a company on the verge of bankruptsy when Bush took office is now the last word in the industry. There had better be a fresh look at HB. Oil is drilled all over the planet. We have the best scientific minds and engineers on the planet. Heads have to roll and those that failed need to be hung out to dry and spin in the wind. Maybe even prosecuted criminally to send a message that taking even the slightest risk with the planet will not be tolorated. I know that if this had been done by the Chineezz someone would already have been executed.

THen on the flipside we can say the same thing regarding Bush.. he too mus have had someone mislead him.... Doesn't change anything though it's the CnC's responsibility to know his advisors... So if Bush is guilty so is Obama...I say they are both guilty equally... And party politics is bullshit...

 

[HUGGY]

I am watching a re-run right now of wednesdays oil spill hearings on C-SPAN and several points of interest have come to light.

The regs everyone is in agreement on were developed in 2003.

The preventer had been modified in 2005.

The blueprints and manuals of the preventer were the wrong ones in use and did not match the actual machinery.

The hydrahlic pressure line to the shear was observed as "loose" by at least three turns as seen by the remote robotic camera.

The charge on the battery of the dean man switch which should have been 27 amps was last seen at 18 amps by the rig crew just before the explosion.

Also it was brought up in the hearing that BP had certfied to the MSS it was capable of handling a worst case spill of 250,000 barrels per day from any forseable problem.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know Huggy, there's a saying that I learned a long time ago........

Once is happenstance, twice is circumstance and third time is overt enemy action.

Halliburton has fucked up 3 times now. First, with the renovations of Walter Reed that didn't happen.

Second, with fucked up way that they built the barracks in the Green Zone of Iraq. The wiring killed several soldiers because it electrocuted them in the shower.

Those 2 happened while Bush Jr. and Cheney were in office and reflected the incredible amount of incompetence by that company, which was awarded those contracts in a no bid contract.

Now? Seems that they've fucked up yet again with their government connections and shitty work in the Gulf of Mexico.

I wanna see those fuckers hung out to dry.

Well someone internal to the Obama administration has convinced them that a company on the verge of bankruptsy when Bush took office is now the last word in the industry. There had better be a fresh look at HB. Oil is drilled all over the planet. We have the best scientific minds and engineers on the planet. Heads have to roll and those that failed need to be hung out to dry and spin in the wind. Maybe even prosecuted criminally to send a message that taking even the slightest risk with the planet will not be tolorated. I know that if this had been done by the Chineezz someone would already have been executed.

THen on the flipside we can say the same thing regarding Bush.. he too mus have had someone mislead him.... Doesn't change anything though it's the CnC's responsibility to know his advisors... So if Bush is guilty so is Obama...I say they are both guilty equally... And party politics is bullshit...

Listen you retard........YOU are screaming at the top of your little lungs that Obama and Bush Jr. share blame equally, yet Huggy just showed you otherwise.

It's readily apparent you don't like Obama, which is why you take the side of Bush Jr.

Face it dude, you're just as partisan and full of party politics bullshit as the next teabagger.