Some Gays Turn Attention to Civil Unions

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    Some Gays Turn Attention to Civil Unions

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    The real problem with the Gay Marriage issue is that Marriage is a
    religious institution. It has deep roots in the bible. Many
    organized religions have very specific ideals on marriage. The issue
    we face today is not simply equal rights as many liberals would have
    you believe. But in fact it's about rights of the church. Many angry
    gays who just want revenge on the religious community for their
    treatment wish to force the issue of marriage onto the church. I did
    say many, not ALL. There are plenty of gay people who would be happy
    to simply have equal treatment in all 50 states namely the ability to
    share their lives with a chosen mate and to share the same privileges
    and tax incentive as well.

    Gays deserve to get all the same privileges and I think most people
    are with me on this one. I don't think there are many folks saying
    otherwise. The real fear here is that once they get "marriage" it
    will only be a few minutes before some wild activist couple will walk
    into a Catholic Church and say, "marry us". The Catholic Church will
    of course say no, and then the next step will be a lawsuit claiming
    discrimination based on sex. This is where the issue lies. We can't
    let those in the gay community who wish to force churches into
    accepting gay marriage win.

    Now those who support gay marriage argue that they don't want to
    change marriage they only want to add to it. The issue here again is
    that marriage is at its root a religious institution that has become
    as generic as the facial tissue, "Kleenex". The problem is that many
    years ago people who wanted to be together but did not want to belong
    to a church went to the courthouse and got "MARRIED" The Government
    decided that they were going to issue "Marriage" certificates. What
    they should have done was to recognize that the State had no right in
    the Marriage business. They should have issued some sort of Civil
    Union Certificate from the very beginning to all people who did not
    want to get joined by the Church.

    It seems to me that the only answer here to make all happy is for the
    government to come up with a Civil Union for all people and assign a
    certificate that gives the legally binding side of the arrangement and
    then allow each church to grant marriages as they see fit. This would
    ease the tension for those who defend the churches right to protect
    their traditional values at the same time it gives Homosexuals the
    same legal rights as Heterosexuals.
     
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    I don't think anyone is pushing to force gay marriage on churches. It is the legal and societal impacts of marriage that gays seek. The legal rights as well as the legal acknowledgement and acceptance of their relationship.
    This being the case, the government should assign civil unions to all couples. Let gays find a religion that will marry them.
     
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    What you think isn't the issue here. It is that churches feel that gay marriage is wrong and that some gays want revenge on the church. Look what faggots did in CA after prop 8. They went all-out against the Mormons. In reality the Mormon church gave no money to those groups fighting prop 8 but the fags don't let little things like facts get in their way. Fortunately their scorched Earth campaign failed to do anything and actually backfired on them.

    Some of those same faggots can't wait for the chance to threaten churches that opposed them to either marry them or face lawsuits if laws are passed in favor of gay marriage across the board. The faggots are just stamping their little feet in anticipation!

    Hey rightwinger, be the pussy you are and neg rep me again. I demand it! Shows how afraid you are of those that disagree with you and your fellow libtards, which makes me look good! :clap2: Come on pussy!
     
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    Justin Case just bagged Rightwinger up and shipped his ass out!

    Good job!

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    I know this, my wife and I love each other and we don't need some damn civil piece of paper from the government to tell us that. We don't need any tax, social security or retirement plusses to have that. You could wipe all that away and the love and the relationship is still there, just as strong and as wonderful as before.

    Further, even if we take God and Churches and all Religions out of the picture, the gay deal doesn't add up biologically.

    It's just another special interest group wanting to change everything, including the biology to meet their own personal needs. They claim that God, nature and science is wrong! LOL

    I could careless how another gets their kicks in bed, nor do I care who they love and spend their life with, but, don't expect everything to change just for them!

    oh, oh, but I forgot, they were born that way! Nature just screwed up on the body parts!

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    Glad to ...Troll

    Make a legitimate post and we can discuss
     
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    Then why deny the same to others who care the same for their loved one?
     
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    Oh look! The faggot neg repped me to show I am right! I think your head is up your ass with this whole repping thing. When you want to show that the person is right you positive rep them! But no worries, your neg reps reveal what a sad fag you are, so do it again. I demand it!

    Or you could hit me with your purse. Your choice.


    Face it, I handed your ass to you and you can't be a man. But you enjoy "taking it" like a man!:lol:
     
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    I think most gays just want equal treatment and to have their relationship recognized by the state. They are not trying to force individuals or religions to accept them. The Catholic Church is still free to discriminate against women, gays, married people and anyone else who does not follow their doctrine
     

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