'Socialism': The GOP's Forever Bogeyman

[Oddball]

Because I am retired having sold off a one. I am enjoying not having to do a damned thing. And from the looks of things, I will probably out live your unhappy ass. Now, what's your excuse?

Sure you are.

 

[Edgetho]

socialism isn't a political philosophy, it is a disease.

And socialists are the infected carriers of the disease that should be eradicated on sight. Without pity, without remorse, without hesitation.

They just don't qualify as human.

Because, believe me, if you give them power, whether through inaction on the part of your lazy asses, or through armed insurrection...... You WILL understand the meaning of true evil --

“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The (dimocrap scum) Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”
― George Orwell, 1984

 

[Dick Foster]

Republicans Have Been Smearing Democrats As Socialists Since Way Before You Were Born

From FDR to Barack Obama to Bernie Sanders, conservatives are reading from the same playbook.

Republicans believe they have hit on a bold, brand new line of attack that is sure to doom Democrats heading into the 2020 elections. President Donald Trump made it a central point of his State of the Union. Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.), head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, promises to bring this fresh hit in his party’s effort to regain control of the House.

The big plan is to ― wait for it ― attack Democrats as socialists.

“Socialism is the greatest vulnerability by far that the House Democrats have,” Emmer told the New York Times.

As any American who has developed to the stage of object permanence can tell you, this isn’t a new plan. It is, in fact, the oldest trick in the book.

Every single political actor since the late 19th century advocating for some form progressive social change ― whether it be economic reform, challenging America’s racial caste system or advocating for women’s rights or LGBT rights ― has been tarred as a socialist or a communist bent on destroying the American Free Enterprise System.

Contemporary political conservatism has been focused on blocking social change that challenges existing hierarchies of class, race and sex since its founding in response to the French Revolution. Socialism emerged as the biggest threat to class hierarchies in due time and conservatives have called everything they don’t like socialism ever since.

More: Republicans Have Been Smearing Democrats As Socialists Since Way Before You Were Born

Once again, it's the same ole socialism bogeyman. Hopefully most voters are smart enough to see through this GOP bogeyman. Socialism is a major part of our society - and has been for a long time. It makes our lives much better - each and every day. Socialism comes in various forms - it isn't one size fits all.

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

Only incompetent nincompoops can't learn from history and figure out what doesn't work, has never worked and never will work. Both mother nature and human nature insure it can never work. The free market and capitalism built this nation and made it great not socalism. Socalism is the destroyer of nations, cultures and society. For proof, all the left needs do is pull their heads out of otheir asses and take a look around. It's right there for all to see and has been for several decades now.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Progressives think socialism would be wonderful. But it would be a disaster for them because they'd be the first people to lose all their shit when Cowboys and Liberals breaks out. It'd suck for them....when trickle up poverty takes over a society, the defenseless get bulldozed the worst. Not worth it.

With the Capitalist in charge, we are already getting trickle up poverty.

For the most part, crony corporatists are in charge....But, again, that would force you to abandon your cognitive dissonance and confront reality.

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it sounds like you are agreeing with me.

 

[Lesh]

Social Security isn't socialism.

Social security is the government taking a large chunk of your lifetime earnings over your working career which it then uses for all kinds of spending on crap no one needs or wants then when you retire you get it back with an absolutely horrid rate of return.

It's not?

It sure isn't capitalism

You're distaste for it is your issue.

 

[Lesh]

Socalism is the destroyer of nations,

And yet without a dose of socialism (which we have) we would have Dickensian horror.

 

[Edgetho]

This is just scum of the Earth dimocrap FILTH attempting their usual incrementalism by trying to tell you that socialism already exists in this Country.

So what's wrong with a little bit more, right dimocrap FILTH??

They feign ignorance but they know what they're doing and what they're saying.

They are very patient, these dimocrap FILTH because they know that EVERY SINGLE TIME socialism gains a foothold, it takes armed upheaval to remove them.

And even then, after you've euthanized many of them, they'll run away with the riches they've stolen and start again.

More death, more despair. More disease and more suffering. It's all dimocrap FILTH have ever created. dimocrrap FILTH know it and they really don't care.

They ARE socialists. Always have been. Since Woodhead Wilson..... socialists.

Eradication is the only solution. Just like a cancer. If you don't kill it all, it will come back every time.

The sooner Americans realize that, the better off we'll all be

 

[Tehon]

Social Security isn't socialism.

Social security is the government taking a large chunk of your lifetime earnings over your working career which it then uses for all kinds of spending on crap no one needs or wants then when you retire you get it back with an absolutely horrid rate of return.

It's not?

It sure isn't capitalism

You're distaste for it is your issue.

It's a social program, funded by the capitalist system.

 

[Lesh]

This is just scum of the Earth dimocrap FILTH attempting their usual incrementalism by trying to tell you that socialism already exists in this Country.

Wow...there's a "reasoned" argument huh?

It's obvious that I am correct. Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and the VA and 40 hour work weeks and paid vacation (and much more) absolutely is "socialism" and that seems to make these right wing loons absolutely apoplectic

Obviously we have a blend of socialism and capitalism already...and that absolutely necessary...and totally popular...when you actually look at what this "socialism" is.

Republicans ALWAYS attack vague concepts that when examined are not only necessary but very popular. Obama care is an example.

They attacked "Obamacare" and as long as people just saw the name...they hated it. As soon as people realized what it was...its popularity climbed rapidly

 

[Lesh]

It's a social program, funded by the capitalist system.

And "social programs" are socialist..hence the name

 

[impuretrash]

This is just scum of the Earth dimocrap FILTH attempting their usual incrementalism by trying to tell you that socialism already exists in this Country.

Wow...there's a "reasoned" argument huh?

It's obvious that I am correct. Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and the VA and 40 hour work weeks and paid vacation (and much more) absolutely is "socialism" and that seems to make these right wing loons absolutely apoplectic

Obviously we have a blend of socialism and capitalism already...and that absolutely necessary...and totally popular...when you actually look at what this "socialism" is.

Republicans ALWAYS attack vague concepts that when examined are not only necessary but very popular. Obama care is an example.

They attacked "Obamacare" and as long as people just saw the name...they hated it. As soon as people realized what it was...its popularity climbed rapidly

Honestly, you should study on what socialism actually is before promoting it so fiercely.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Republicans Have Been Smearing Democrats As Socialists Since Way Before You Were Born

From FDR to Barack Obama to Bernie Sanders, conservatives are reading from the same playbook.

Republicans believe they have hit on a bold, brand new line of attack that is sure to doom Democrats heading into the 2020 elections. President Donald Trump made it a central point of his State of the Union. Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.), head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, promises to bring this fresh hit in his party’s effort to regain control of the House.

The big plan is to ― wait for it ― attack Democrats as socialists.

“Socialism is the greatest vulnerability by far that the House Democrats have,” Emmer told the New York Times.

As any American who has developed to the stage of object permanence can tell you, this isn’t a new plan. It is, in fact, the oldest trick in the book.

Every single political actor since the late 19th century advocating for some form progressive social change ― whether it be economic reform, challenging America’s racial caste system or advocating for women’s rights or LGBT rights ― has been tarred as a socialist or a communist bent on destroying the American Free Enterprise System.

Contemporary political conservatism has been focused on blocking social change that challenges existing hierarchies of class, race and sex since its founding in response to the French Revolution. Socialism emerged as the biggest threat to class hierarchies in due time and conservatives have called everything they don’t like socialism ever since.

More: Republicans Have Been Smearing Democrats As Socialists Since Way Before You Were Born

Once again, it's the same ole socialism bogeyman. Hopefully most voters are smart enough to see through this GOP bogeyman. Socialism is a major part of our society - and has been for a long time. It makes our lives much better - each and every day. Socialism comes in various forms - it isn't one size fits all.

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

That is bullshit....noone called Republicans socialists...and they were the ones that were pro civil rights.....man you are dumb

 

[buckeye45_73]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Or they know exactly what it is – particularly that it has nothing to do with Democrats or the Democratic Party, and that Democrats in no manner advocate for ‘socialism.’

Yet conservatives will continue to propagate their lies regardless.

So what is the difference between socialism and democratic socialism?

 

[Lesh]

Honestly, you should study on what socialism actually is before promoting it so fiercely.

I'm not "promoting" anything. I am trying to insert reality into the discussion.

We ARE a socialist/capitalist blend NOW

The only question is ...how much socialism is required.

I'd be happy to have THAT discussion but you're only interested in hyperbolic screams of SOCIALISM IS COMING TO GET US!!

It's childish, dishonest, and cynical

 

[buckeye45_73]

Honestly, you should study on what socialism actually is before promoting it so fiercely.

I'm not "promoting" anything. I am trying to insert reality into the discussion.

We ARE a socialist/capitalist blend NOW

The only question is ...how much socialism is required.

I'd be happy to have THAT discussion but you're only interested in hyperbolic screams of SOCIALISM IS COMING TO GET US!!

It's childish, dishonest, and cynical

can you define socialism for us

 

[impuretrash]

Honestly, you should study on what socialism actually is before promoting it so fiercely.

I'm not "promoting" anything. I am trying to insert reality into the discussion.

We ARE a socialist/capitalist blend NOW

The only question is ...how much socialism is required.

I'd be happy to have THAT discussion but you're only interested in hyperbolic screams of SOCIALISM IS COMING TO GET US!!

It's childish, dishonest, and cynical

Gosh, thanks so much for telling me what I think.

 

[Lesh]

can you define socialism for us

I've done so numerous times.

Your turn

 

[Lesh]

Gosh, thanks so much for telling me what I think.

I'm not telling you what you think (trust me I have no interest in wading into THAT cesspool)

I'm describing what you are DOING

 

[Pilot1]

The Reservation called. They want your (their) Wampum back to redistribute based on number of Squaws everyone has.

Spirit Journey cancelled. Deemed not needed too costly.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I think for Republicans, socialism is the new gay.

Don’t get me wrong, they still hate gays, but socialism is an easier sell to frighten the American people these days than those scary gays who are recruiting your children.

If Republicans don’t have something to scare people into voting for them, then they have nothing at all.

They make it a binary choice. Who would you vote for, Democrats who want to do this or that or us who are already a known quantity.

Considering what Republicans have done so far, I would say ask Donald Trump’s question, what do you have to lose?

Could democrats really be any worse than screwing over your entire life, ending your health care, sending your jobs overseas, ruining your kids lives with no education and destroying the environment?

What a bunch of hogwash on your part!

1. All the stuff you listed can easily be dealt with at the State level while taxing the State Population accordingly.

2. Have you forgotten how the EPA failed the States of Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico when they allow that toxic leak from that mine in Colorado to pollute that river that ran through Navajo Territory?

3. You are no better than those you whine about and you are nothing but a stooge for the DNC!