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spillmind said:you *are* kidding, right? try the war, for one. wrong war, wrong time. sure, kerry supported it initially- back when there was 'factual evidence' of a clear, nuclear threat.... and then the dollar esitmate went from that incredibly underestimated number to something ridiculous from like 10 bil to currently 130 bil!! and then the body armor crap?
Um Kerry cant criticize the war. He supported it initially. heck he supported it two weeks ago when he said he would vote the same way even knowing what he knows now. Saddam had to be taken out. its something that should have been done back in 92 and atleast back in 98. Besides Kerry cant be opposed the war in the debates. Most americans supported it. if he argues against it he will be opposing over half the country. So no im not kidding.
As for the nuclear threat, the whole point of taking out Saddam now was that he would never become a nuclear threat. What the heck do you think the whole point of Preemption is? If we waited till there was a threat, it would be too late and millions of Americans would already be dead.
And try as you must you cant ignore the fact that John Kerry voted to put the troops into a combat situation and then opposed supplying them. why? because we wouldnt raise taxes to pay for the supplies. So what John Kerry has just told us is raising taxes is more important to him then the lives of our soldiers.
So where the heck is Bush weak here? looks like the only one weak here is Kerry.
spillmind said:when actually Kerry cosponsored a bill that would have granted the body armor in question that also linked a reinstatement of tax responsibility for the wealthy so that the armor could be paid for. the republicans voted it down and instead pushed through the same request funded with additional federal debt. does that seem conservative or fiscally responsible to you? to me it reflects a clear lack of critical reasoning skills and a lack of economic common-sense.
Actually it seems very conservative. Conservatives oppose tax increases. John Kerry has demonstrated that raising taxes is more important to him than the lives of our troops. Unlike you i dont think thats an admirable quality to have.
spillmind said:for starters. after that, there is the job market. spin it all you want, but can you honestly tell me that it is just as easy to find a GOOD job these days as it was 5,6,7,8 years ago? and it's no coincidence that dubya tax cut's haven't worked. even responsible conservatives are up in arms hpw financially irresponsible this admin has been. the deficit speaks for itself.
Um the unemployment rate is lower than it was during the Clinton administration. When Clinton ran for reelection it was 5.6 today its 5.4 and dropping. Check the want ads there are plenty of good quality jobs out there.
spillmind said:now bush will blame everything wrong on someone else, because we all know he's perfect. too bad you'll find a different story when our new president calls him on it all.
There is nothing to blame on others. The problems you are whining about dont exist. Which is why Kerry's message isnt working. Like when he went into North Carolina too weeks ago and started attacking Bush on all the jobs lost in that state and then two hours later the unemployment rates come out and show North Carolina has an unemployment rate of 4.7 well below the nation average. You cant whine about a bad economy when it keeps getter better. You cant complain about a war your candidate advocates and then refuses to fund. the fact is your losing on both the issues which is why Kerry is getting his butt kicked in the polls lately.