So what do you all think about Bitcoin?

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Bitcoin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bitcoin (sign: BTC) is a decentralized digital currency[8][9] based on an open-source,[10] peer-to-peer internet protocol. It was introduced by a pseudonymous developer named Satoshi Nakamoto in 2009.[11]

Internationally, bitcoins can be exchanged by personal computer directly through a wallet file or a website without an intermediate financial institution.[12] In trade, one bitcoin is subdivided into 100 million smaller units called satoshis, defined by eight decimal places.[4]

Bitcoin does not operate like typical currencies: it has no central bank and it solely relies on an internet-based peer-to-peer network. The money supply is automated, limited, divided and scheduled, and given to servers or "bitcoin miners" that verify bitcoin transactions and add them to a decentralized and archived transaction log every 10 minutes. The log is authenticated by ECDSA digital signatures and verified by the intense process of bruteforcing SHA256 hash functions of varying difficulty by competing "bitcoin miners." Transaction fees may apply to new transactions depending on the strain put on the network's resources. Each 10-minute portion or "block" of the transaction log has an assigned money supply. The amount per block depends on how long the network has been running. Currently, 25 bitcoins are generated with every 10-minute block. This will be halved to 12.5 BTC during the year 2017 and halved continuously every 4 years after until a hard limit of 21 million bitcoins is reached during the year 2140.[1][11]

Bitcoin is the most widely used alternative currency.[3][13] As of March 2013, the monetary base of bitcoin is valued at over $800 million USD.[14][15] The large fluctuation in the dollar value of a bitcoin has evoked criticism of bitcoin's economic suitability as a currency.[16]


Digital 'bitcoin' currency surpasses 20 national currencies in value | Fox News

More than $1 billion dollars worth of a digital currency known as "bitcoins" now circulate on the web – an amount that exceeds the value of the entire currency stock of small countries like Liberia (which uses “Liberian dollars”), Bhutan (which uses the “Ngultrum”), and 18 other countries.

So what is a “bitcoin,” and why would anyone use it?

Unlike traditional currency, bitcoins are not issued by a government or even a private company. Instead, the currency is run by computer code that distributes new bitcoins at a set rate to people who devote web servers to keep the code running. The bitcoins are then bought and sold for regular U.S. dollars online.

Bitcoin is in high demand right now -- each bitcoin currently sells for more than $90 U.S. dollars -- which bitcoin insiders say is because of world events that have shaken confidence in government-issued currencies.

“Because of what's going on in Cyprus and Europe, people are trying to pull their money out of banks there,” Tony Gallippi, the CEO “BitPay.com,” which enables businesses to easily accept bitcoins as payment, told FoxNews.com.

In Cyprus, the government is considering taking a percentage of all citizens’ bank accounts to solve its fiscal woes. That has led Cypriots -- and other Europeans worried about the same thing happening to them -- to take their money out of banks.

“So they buy gold, they put it under the mattress, or they buy bitcoin,” Gallippi said.

Bitcoin demand has also increased, Gallippi says, because last week U.S. regulators issued the first official guidelines for private digital currencies. Prior to the regulations, the legal status of the currencies was in doubt.


Video for thos enot wanting to read so much
Bitcoin: the fastest growing currency in the world - video | Technology | guardian.co.uk


Prices seem steady so far

Bitcoin Charts

https://btc-e.com/
 
The Problem with BitCoin (and other Ponzi Schemes like it) is that that a Gov't Central Bank is not allowed to Leverage bitcoins into Derivatives or print Bitcoins to get an Economy going again like the Fed is doing here.
 
The Problem with BitCoin (and other Ponzi Schemes like it) is that that a Gov't Central Bank is not allowed to Leverage bitcoins into Derivatives or print Bitcoins to get an Economy going again like the Fed is doing here.

Why is that a problem though?
 
Only just hearing of it....

heard it's really exploding, though

Yeah, but if it doesnt come down a bit, the banksters will get jealous and sic their law dogs in the DOJ on the Bitcoin folks, probably claim 'money laundering'.

Of course, if you think about it, ALL commodities can be used for money laundering.
 
I think BitCoin will be only as honest as the people running it.

Just like every other bank in history that had the right to issue its own specie.
 
The Problem with BitCoin (and other Ponzi Schemes like it) is that that a Gov't Central Bank is not allowed to Leverage bitcoins into Derivatives or print Bitcoins to get an Economy going again like the Fed is doing here.

Why is that a problem though?
How can the Federal Reserve address their Dual Mandate of controlling Inflation and Unemployment if they don't have a Money Supply to Inflate and Deflate as they see fit?
 
The Problem with BitCoin (and other Ponzi Schemes like it) is that that a Gov't Central Bank is not allowed to Leverage bitcoins into Derivatives or print Bitcoins to get an Economy going again like the Fed is doing here.

Why is that a problem though?
How can the Federal Reserve address their Dual Mandate of controlling Inflation and Unemployment if they don't have a Money Supply to Inflate and Deflate as they see fit?

Spot on, dude.

More to the popint how will they rermain rich if they lack that franchise?

After all, they neither spin nor sew no do anything of value to anyone other than themselves.

You guys hate parasites.

Stop looking at the BOTTOM of the social heap and start looking UP!

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Bitcoin Exchange Scam ? Bitcoins Are Now Worthless | NERDr.com

Bitcoin Exchange

"Bitcoin Exchanges have no audit process, no way of keeping them honest, no trail and no verification procedures. It’s just a number like he said. It’s all trust, based on a house of cards and this is one of the issues I’ve been harping on about from the beginning. Why do you trust the exchanges? What gives Bitcoin it’s value?"
 
The Problem with BitCoin (and other Ponzi Schemes like it) is that that a Gov't Central Bank is not allowed to Leverage bitcoins into Derivatives or print Bitcoins to get an Economy going again like the Fed is doing here.

Why is that a problem though?
How can the Federal Reserve address their Dual Mandate of controlling Inflation and Unemployment if they don't have a Money Supply to Inflate and Deflate as they see fit?

Cant tell if you are being serious or not.

I dont see how the introduction of an electronic commodity is going to prevent them from fucking around with the money supply. Hell, the 'liquidity trap' they have managed to fall into does more to limit their ability to manipulate than does Bitcoin.
 
Bitcoin Exchange Scam ? Bitcoins Are Now Worthless | NERDr.com

Bitcoin Exchange

"Bitcoin Exchanges have no audit process, no way of keeping them honest, no trail and no verification procedures. It’s just a number like he said. It’s all trust, based on a house of cards and this is one of the issues I’ve been harping on about from the beginning. Why do you trust the exchanges? What gives Bitcoin it’s value?"

Yes, Bitcoin does have an audit process, and a verification process built into the process of bitcoin 'mining'.

Read the Wiki and you might see what I am refering to.
 
So what is a “bitcoin,” and why would anyone use it?

AMWAY and Newskin


P/T. Barnum is laughing. This kind of shit is ever with us. What happened with all that gold shit on the internet?

Most of it is still there, though they are revising their processes to allow for proper identification of their participants.

E-gold was a single business entity, while Bit-coin is a peer-to-peer system with no single player. Shut down one part and it continues on. They would have to shut down pretty much all of it simultaneeously, as I understand it.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/fbi-fears-bitcoin/

In the document, the FBI notes that because Bitcoin combines cryptography and a peer-to-peer architecture to avoid a central authority, contrary to how digital currencies such as eGold and WebMoney operated, law enforcement agencies have more difficulty identifying suspicious users and obtaining transaction records.

Though the Bureau expresses confidence that authorities can still snag some suspects who use third-party Bitcoin services that require customers to submit valid identification or banking information in order to convert their bitcoins into real-world currencies, it notes that using offshore services that don’t require valid IDs can thwart tracking by law enforcement.

Bitcoin is an online currency that allows buyers and sellers to exchange money anonymously. To “cash out,” the recipient has to convert the digital cash into U.S. dollars, British pounds or another established currency. Bitcoin is used as a legitimate form of payment by numerous online retailers selling traditional consumer goods, such as clothing and music. But it’s also used by underground sites, such as Silk Road, for the sale of illegal narcotics.
 
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