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There is no solution. They hate us because of our freedoms. Or whatever nonsensical talking point you want to use to explain why they don't want us interfering in their countries.
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Sharrouf, 33, fled Australia in December last year to fight with the extremist group now known as the Islamic State (IS). Counter-terrorism forces claim he used his brother Mostafa's passport to travel to Syria and Iraq. It is believed his wife and four children followed.
The photo shows a boy, believed to be seven years old, wearing a cap, a blue shirt and checkered shorts. He is using both hands to hold the bloody and blackened head as he stares towards the camera. It is believed it was taken in the northern Syrian city of Raqqa in late July and posted on Twitter last week.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on Monday the image, if authentic, shows the lengths IS would go to in the bloody civil conflict that has cost over 100,000 lives as at the United Nation's final count in July 2013.
It shows "the kind of hideous atrocities this group is capable of," he told ABC Radio. "We see more and more evidence of just how barbaric this entity is."
Joe Wilson was just on CNN babbling about UN/Sunni nations helping us defeat ISIS...mfer still has no clue.
On 08-12-2014 at 06:31 PM deltex wrote, " ...it's Iran. Are we bombing them or negotiating with them?" referring to this link: 'Barbaric' Photo Shows Australian Child Holding Severed Head in Syria
On 08-12-2014 at 06:21 PM I asked, "So where in that haystack is Obama saying that we can negotiate with these ISIS barbarians."
Deltex can't find a cite where Obama said we could negotiate with barbarians such as this contained in Deltex's link:
Sharrouf, 33, fled Australia in December last year to fight with the extremist group now known as the Islamic State (IS). Counter-terrorism forces claim he used his brother Mostafa's passport to travel to Syria and Iraq. It is believed his wife and four children followed.
The photo shows a boy, believed to be seven years old, wearing a cap, a blue shirt and checkered shorts. He is using both hands to hold the bloody and blackened head as he stares towards the camera. It is believed it was taken in the northern Syrian city of Raqqa in late July and posted on Twitter last week.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on Monday the image, if authentic, shows the lengths IS would go to in the bloody civil conflict that has cost over 100,000 lives as at the United Nation's final count in July 2013.
It shows "the kind of hideous atrocities this group is capable of," he told ABC Radio. "We see more and more evidence of just how barbaric this entity is."
So Deltex, we all can see that your post today at 03:45 PM definitely pointed to ISIS as the barbarians you have accused Obama of thinking he can 'negotiate' peace with them. You said exactly 'with these barbarians' and you pointed to the IS link.
So why did you ask about Iran at 06:31 PM when you wrote: " ...it's Iran. Are we bombing them or negotiating with them?"
Do you actually think Shiite Iran was behind the Sunni IS terrorist's barbaric behavior in Syria?
So you have nothing that caused you to start another abomination of a thread devoid of fact to bash Obama over nothing he's said just to please the herd of Obama haters that hang around here.
On 08-12-2014 at 03:45 PM Deltex wrote, "So, Obabble thinks we can negotiate peace With these barbarians..."
On 08-12-2014 at 04:13 PM Redfish wrote, "Obama says they are freedom fighters."
On 08-12-2014 at 05:18 PM tinydancer wrote, "These are just poor misguided souls who feel disenfranchised."
What on earth could cause Deltex and Redfish and tinydancer to imagine the things they write?
Because they cannot see beyond their blind hatred and bigotry.
They have no understanding of presidential politics or policy.
Ignore their childish antics and rantings. It is quite comical.
On 08-12-2014 at 03:45 PM Deltex wrote, "So, Obabble thinks we can negotiate peace With these barbarians..."
On 08-12-2014 at 04:13 PM Redfish wrote, "Obama says they are freedom fighters."
On 08-12-2014 at 05:18 PM tinydancer wrote, "These are just poor misguided souls who feel disenfranchised."
What on earth could cause Deltex and Redfish and tinydancer to imagine the things they write?
Because they cannot see beyond their blind hatred and bigotry.
They have no understanding of presidential politics or policy.
Ignore their childish antics and rantings. It is quite comical.
On 08-12-2014 at 03:45 PM Deltex wrote, "So, Obabble thinks we can negotiate peace With these barbarians..."
On 08-12-2014 at 04:13 PM Redfish wrote, "Obama says they are freedom fighters."
On 08-12-2014 at 05:18 PM tinydancer wrote, "These are just poor misguided souls who feel disenfranchised."
What on earth could cause Deltex and Redfish and tinydancer to imagine the things they write?
Oh. GFY.
General Keane saying that Obabble's waiting on reconciliation of Iraqi government caused the tragedy on the mountain. June plea for air support against ISIS was ignored...so here we sit...and there the women and children die...not by suicide...but by Obabble's fascination with negotiation, reconciliation, and befuddled inaction.
However, Odierno gave a vote of confidence to the Iraqi forces who had taken over security for Baghdad after U.S. forces handed over control. "The Iraqis wanted to be in charge; they wanted the responsibilities; and they have demonstrated that they are capable," he said. - 4,000 U.S. troops expected to leave Iraq in October, CNN, September 30, 2009
source: 4,000 U.S. troops expected to leave Iraq in October - CNN.com
Would it have happened if we had had 25,000 troops still on the ground?
No one knows whether forces there would have given us an influence. That’s the question for the ages. They were out of combat, out of the cities and out of the advising.
So you have to ask what the mission would have been. And again, without knowing what mission Prime Minister Maliki would have allowed them to do, it’s hard to say how much influence they might have achieved, again noting that there was a quite a robust security assistance force and that did not seem to translate.
As I said, I would have loved to have seen a force remain on the ground. I would have loved it even more if I knew that they were going to have a mission that would allow them to continue to contribute to the sustainment of the progress that was so hard fought and for which so many sacrificed so much during the surge and beyond
Nothing in your comment justifies this full blown lie: On 08-12-2014 at 03:45 PM Deltex wrote, "So, Obabble thinks we can negotiate peace With these barbarians..."
Show me General Keane's quote?
If you are into quoting US Generals how about this one:
What about Petraeus:
David Petraeus: ISIS’s Rise in Iraq Isn’t a Surprise | Losing Iraq | FRONTLINE | PBS
Why are there so many armchair jerks around here who THINK THEY KNOW SOMETHING that Obama doesn't?
Joe Wilson was just on CNN babbling about UN/Sunni nations helping us defeat ISIS...mfer still has no clue.
Saudi Arabia The powerhouse of the Sunni Arab world. Has 305 combat aircraft. Took part in the recent air strikes in Syria alongside the US and other allies. The kingdom has publicly condemned the Islamic State, but is also the home of the hardline Wahabbi school of Sunni Islam and accused of being a key source of funding for extremists through private donations from wealthy Saudis.
United Arab Emirates Includes Dubai, the financial and trading powerhouse of the Middle East. Has 201 combat aircraft. Took part in the recent air strikes in Syria. Long considered a potential target for Islamic terrorists, partly because of its large contingent of Western workers, including around 100,000 Brits.
Jordan Small desert kingdom bordering both Iraq and Syria. Fears overspill of extremism. Has small airforce of 85 combat aircraft, which have hit Islamic State targets in Syria. Also cut off funding to extremist organisations. Previously helped in the US operation that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian-born leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
Qatar Tiny but gas-rich Gulf emirate. Has only 18 combat aircraft, but also hosts the regional headquarters of US Central Command and al-Udeid air base, which serves as the hub for all American air operations in the Middle East. Played role in recent airstrikes in Syria, but also accused of funding some of the extremist movements there.
Bahrain Sunni-led Gulf Emirate with close ties to neighbouring Saudi Arabia. Took part in the recent air strikes against the Islamic State in Syria alongside US and other allies. Participation probably limited to opening its air space and allowing the US to use military facilities on the island, the headquarters of the US Fifth Fleet.
Iraq Iraq is not taking part in the air campaign but has opened its airspace and welcomed outside support from the US and others against Isil, whose forces routed the Iraqi Army from much of northern Iraq. Isil using remnants of its own forces plus Shia militia groups to try to retake ground.
Kuwait £6m aid to Iraq
Non-nation states The Arab League has called for the Islamic State to be confronted “militarily and politically”.
Who is in the anti-Islamic State coalition and what they are contributing - Telegraph
Albania Has sent 22 million AK47 rifle rounds, 15,000 grenades and 32,000 artillery shells to Kurdish forces. A Muslim majority nation now seeking to join EU, Albania was beneficiary of an international military coalition itself when Nato bombed forces from neighbouring Serbia in 1999.
Egypt Denounced the Islamic State's killing of journalist James Foley and called for the “international community to rally efforts to fight terrorism.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11124070/Who-is-in-the-anti-Islamic-State-coalition-and-what-they-are-contributing.html