Lefty Wilbury
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rtwngAvngr said:I believe there was a secret vetting process involved.
its the vetting process that congress put in place
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rtwngAvngr said:I believe there was a secret vetting process involved.
Lefty Wilbury said:its the vetting process that congress put in place
rtwngAvngr said:Does that matter?
Lefty Wilbury said:yeah it does. it shows that its all political motivated. if they were all so concerned about this law would have been passed 5 years ago but it wasn't
rtwngAvngr said:Just now? There was supposedly a secret vetting process that the deal went through before the firestorm erupted.
Mr. P said:I don't understand your question really, but as to the bold part...they don't own, they just lease the terminal space. Same for all US airlines for the most part.
Lefty Wilbury said:same with the port terminals which is my point. :
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5228775
Q: Will the transfer of ownership change who is working at these six ports?
The dock workers will remain the same, and there will be very little change in management, DHS officials said at a briefing this week. In the vast majority of U.S. ports, the workers operating the cargo cranes and in management are Americans.
"In reality, it's just an economic transaction," said Rob Quartel, chairman and CEO of Freightdesk Technologies and a former U.S. federal maritime commissioner. Dubai Ports is buying control of a company that has contracts to manage certain port terminals, said Quartel. "When all is said and done, it's going to be the same people running the [terminals] day to day, the same managers managing it. The managers' managers will report to a different board, but it's the same people."
Kathianne said:I agree, Dubai brought it onto the radar of us regular folk. Congress does have the power to make laws regarding security. Now that it's been recorded, do we stop with Dubai? I hope not.
Lefty Wilbury said:unless you nationalize all the airline travel,ports, companies etc etc this subject can be brought up almost daily with almost any company.
rtwngAvngr said:In reality. The parent company will have more influence than anyone is admitting to. Have your read the info about UAE connections to terror and ongoing policies against israel and support for hamas? Get educated.
Lefty Wilbury said:right yet i'm sure your filling up with saudi oil and probaly buying things from comapines who's major share holders are saudi but since we are talking uae here after all i'm guess you'll be starting a boycott of DaimlerChrysler and holiday inn. i mean after all dubai based and owned companies are the third largest share holder in DaimlerChrysler
That's what should be done. Also nuclear plants, water treatment plants, armaments and related. Anything else that falls within 'security concerns.'Lefty Wilbury said:unless you nationalize all the airline travel,ports, companies etc etc this subject can be brought up almost daily with almost any company.
rtwngAvngr said:Goods are different than security sensitive operational tasks. WHy do I have to say the most basic things? Why are you so for this deal?
Kathianne said:That's what should be done. Also nuclear plants, water treatment plants, armaments and related. Anything else that falls within 'security concerns.'
Lefty Wilbury said:so its ok that they make their money buy selling things to finance their terror operations. that makes sense. why am i for this? because i actually look at things rationally and relized nothing is going to change at these ports and the people throwing fits over this aren't really looking at the reality of things. nothing is going to change at the ports. nothing. nada. zilch. zip. its not going to be hey we run this one terminal at this one port so now we can smuggle in all these wmd. its not going to happen. it would be easier to fedex the shit then send it in a container ship
For our national security sites, yes. For Holiday Inn, no.Lefty Wilbury said:so basically become france, china or the soviet union is what yor saying.
Kathianne said:For our national security sites, yes. For Holiday Inn, no.
Not the government, but at least 50.1% US ownership, so the company is 'American.' All workers at 'secure' areas should be too. I've made this very clear, haven't you been reading?Lefty Wilbury said:so you would be ok for the government to take over companies like lockheed martin and raytheon since after all they fall under umbrella of national security.
Kathianne said:Not the government, but at least 50.1% US ownership, so the company is 'American.' All workers at 'secure' areas should be too. I've made this very clear, haven't you been reading?
Not if Congress is activated, which it may or may not be. I KNOW it doesn't WANT to be.Lefty Wilbury said:your a few decades too late to even try to do that.