So, let me get this straight

[Lesh]

Russia invading foreign countries. It is wrong.

We agree. So does Biden

 

[MarcATL]

Any time you see someone write this, you know a really crazy story will follow.

It did.

Facts!

 

[AntonToo]

So, lets get this straight.. Under Obama Russia took over Crimea . We let them. NOW Russia is going to take over Ukraine which is a big ally and we are just standing idle

Ready for American boots on the ground in Ukraine?

If not:

 

[AntonToo]

Why doesn't the EU, including Germany, help the Ukraine? ANS: They are dickless eunuchs.

Bullshit

Recently:

EU offers Ukraine 1.2 billion euro aid package

The European Union aims to help Ukraine with a 1.2 billion euro financial aid package to mitigate the effects of the conflict with Russia, which has amassed troops and heavy weapons on Ukraine's border, EU Commission Chief Ursula von der Leyen said.

www.reuters.com

From last year:
EU disburses €600 million in Macro-Financial Assistance

General EU contribution compared to US:

The European Union has given, on average, over $710 million (€650 million) per year to the country since 2014—almost twice as much as the United States average.

Not Contributing Enough? A Summary of European Military and Development Assistance to Ukraine Since 2014

President Trump has stated that one of the reasons to withhold $250 million of U.S. military assistance to Ukraine was due to the lack of European and other nations’ contributions to Ukraine. How much has Europe been providing to Ukraine since Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea and military...

www.csis.org

 

[kyzr]

From last year:
EU disburses €600 million in Macro-Financial Assistance
The European Union has given, on average, over $710 million (€650 million) per year to the country since 2014—almost twice as much as the United States average.

Take a look at annual military budgets and then tell me if the EU spends more than the US.
Your post is of MILLIONS of "financial assistance" from the EU since 2014, a pittance.
The chart below is in BILLIONS for defense, every year
Put up numbers for military aid to Ukraine too. Not just "financial aid".

 

[AntonToo]

Take a look at annual military budgets and then tell me if the EU spends more than the US.
Your post is of MILLIONS of "financial assistance" from the EU since 2014, a pittance.
The chart below is in BILLIONS for defense, every year
Put up numbers for military aid to Ukraine too. Not just "financial aid".
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...we are talking specifically about aid to Ukraine, but now you decide we should talk about something else?

You really ought to learn how to accept being wrong instead of constantly trying to save face by bs deflection.

You said EU doesn't help Ukraine and you were dead wrong, they in fact help more than US.

 

[kyzr]

...we are talking specifically about aid to Ukraine, but now you decide we should talk about something else?
You really ought to learn how to accept being wrong instead of constantly trying to save face by bs deflection.
You said EU doesn't help Ukraine and you were dead wrong, they in fact help more than US.

I was talking about MILITARY AID to Ukraine since Russian troops are massing along their border.
Germany won't let military aid go over their roads or airspace. Eunuchs.
You put up a few $million a year in financial aid, a pittance.
Remember when Biden threatened to withhold $1-billion if they didn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma? Stop whining and put up some military aid numbers.

 

[Lesh]

Germany won't let military aid go over their roads or airspace.

What kind of military aid are you talking about?

A link would be nice

 

[AntonToo]

I was talking about MILITARY AID to Ukraine since Russian troops are massing along their border.
Germany won't let military aid go over their roads or airspace. Eunuchs.
You put up a few $million a year in financial aid, a pittance.
Remember when Biden threatened to withhold $1-billion if they didn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma? Stop whining and put up some military aid numbers.

$700 million a year is "a couple of million"?

...have you been dropped on you head recently?

 

[Missourian]

Barry Obama president... Russia takes Crimea...

Don Trump president... Left scream Russia, Russia, Russia for four years...Putin does nothing.


Slow Joe Biden president... Loses Afghanistan to Taliban in 24 hours... Russia positions to take Ukraine... and they're going to do it.

And Slow Joe ain't going to do a damn thing about it.

In fact DEMOCRATS FILIBUSTERED SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA just a week or two ago!!!

Democrats slammed for blocking Russia sanctions bill using filibuster they've decried as racist

Senate Democrats took advantage of the filibuster rule, which prominent members of their party have recently decried as racist, on Thursday to block a bill from Republican Sen. Ted Cruz implementing sanctions on Russia.

www.foxnews.com

Now you tell me... who does Putin want in office... Democrats or Donald Trump?

 

[Lesh]

Now you tell me... who does Putin want in office... Democrats or Donald Trump?

Trump. He's made that abundantly clear

 

[Missourian]

Trump. He's made that abundantly clear

Riiiiight...he wants the guy who kept him in check and issues over a dozen sanctions...

Not the guys who let him take back an entire country...

That's rich.

This is exactly why you get taken advantage of... Lack of critical thinking skills...

 

[AntonToo]

Barry Obama president... Russia takes Crimea...

Don Trump president... Left scream Russia, Russia, Russia for four years...Putin does nothing.


Slow Joe Biden president... Loses Afghanistan to Taliban in 24 hours... Russia positions to take Ukraine... and they're going to do it.

And Slow Joe ain't going to do a damn thing about it.

In fact DEMOCRATS FILIBUSTERED SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA just a week or two ago!!!

Democrats slammed for blocking Russia sanctions bill using filibuster they've decried as racist

Senate Democrats took advantage of the filibuster rule, which prominent members of their party have recently decried as racist, on Thursday to block a bill from Republican Sen. Ted Cruz implementing sanctions on Russia.

www.foxnews.com

Now you tell me... who does Putin want in office... Democrats or Donald Trump?

Dumbass, obviously Putin wanted the guy who publicly rationalized Putin killing opposition and who ran on removing all sanctions on Russia over Ukraine - Trump. DUH.

Russia grabbed a bunch of Georgia's territory in 2008. You couldn't give two shits though - doesn't fit the thesis.

 

[Indeependent]

What did the Ukraine do with the money?
Did they buy or design and build military equipment?
Giving money now is not the same as moving in militarily.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

When you plan on enlisting?

Can you type that in French? It seems more suiting.

 

[kyzr]

$700 million a year is "a couple of million"?
...have you been dropped on you head recently?

$700m a year from the entire EU.

U.S. Military Aid to Ukraine: A Silver Bullet?

U.S. military assistance to Ukraine now will at best be marginal in affecting the outcome of the Russia-Ukraine crisis. It might be morally justified to help a U.S. partner at risk of aggression. But given the scale of the potential threat to Ukraine and its forces, the most effective way...

www.rand.org

Since 2014, the United States has provided over $2.5 billion in military aid to Ukraine,

Assistance Programs

U.S. Assistance to Ukraine Overview U.S. assistance to Ukraine since 2014 totals over $3.7 billion, plus three $1 billion sovereign loan guarantees. For

ua.usembassy.gov

U.S. assistance to Ukraine since 2014 totals over $3.7 billion, plus three $1 billion sovereign loan guarantees. For FY 2020, Congress has appropriated $698 million: $448 million for State/USAI programs and $250 million for USAI, including $50 million for lethal assistance. The $448 million appropriation for State/USAI programs includes approximately $285 million in the development accounts and approximately $163 million in the security accounts.

Add them up and see how the EU aid compares with US aid. DUH.

 

[AntonToo]

$700m a year from the entire EU.

U.S. Military Aid to Ukraine: A Silver Bullet?

U.S. military assistance to Ukraine now will at best be marginal in affecting the outcome of the Russia-Ukraine crisis. It might be morally justified to help a U.S. partner at risk of aggression. But given the scale of the potential threat to Ukraine and its forces, the most effective way...

www.rand.org

Since 2014, the United States has provided over $2.5 billion in military aid to Ukraine,

Assistance Programs

U.S. Assistance to Ukraine Overview U.S. assistance to Ukraine since 2014 totals over $3.7 billion, plus three $1 billion sovereign loan guarantees. For

ua.usembassy.gov

U.S. assistance to Ukraine since 2014 totals over $3.7 billion, plus three $1 billion sovereign loan guarantees. For FY 2020, Congress has appropriated $698 million: $448 million for State/USAI programs and $250 million for USAI, including $50 million for lethal assistance. The $448 million appropriation for State/USAI programs includes approximately $285 million in the development accounts and approximately $163 million in the security accounts.

Add them up and see how the EU aid compares with US aid. DUH.

Dummy, 700 million a year since 2014 from EU is WAY MORE.

You obviously can't do basic math, but NEVERMIND MATH, your standard was not even that US gives more than EU. Nope, your ignorant claim was that EU doesn't help Ukraine and you just can't admit being dead wrong.

That's ok, you don't have to admit anything, we both know you are full of shit.

 

[kyzr]

Dummy, 700 million a year since 2014 from EU is WAY MORE.
You obviously can't do basic math, but NEVERMIND MATH, your standard was not even that US gives more than EU. Nope, your ignorant claim was that EU doesn't help Ukraine and you just can't admit being dead wrong.
That's ok, you don't have to admit anything, we both know you are full of shit.

$10.4b since 2014 is about $1.5b a year in aid from the US. DUH.
The US is 1/30th of NATO.
Like I said, the EU are shirking their responsibility to keep Russia at bay.
The US is funding way too much of what is an EU responsibility.
Now we're sending troops there to protect them.
We should get reimbursed.

 

[AntonToo]

$10.4b since 2014 is about $1.5b a year in aid from the US. DUH.
The US is 1/30th of NATO.
Like I said, the EU are shirking their responsibility to keep Russia at bay.
The US is funding way too much of what is an EU responsibility.
Now we're sending troops there to protect them.
We should get reimbursed.

10B????...lol dummy what part of

U.S. assistance to Ukraine since 2014 totals over $3.7 billion, plus three $1 billion sovereign loan guarantees

from your link do you not understand???

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Missourian]

Dumbass, obviously Putin wanted the guy who publicly rationalized Putin killing opposition and who ran on removing all sanctions on Russia over Ukraine - Trump. DUH.

Russia grabbed a bunch of Georgia's territory in 2008. You couldn't give two shits though - doesn't fit the thesis.

Fact remains... Under Obama Putin took Crimea, under Biden Putin is going to take Ukraine, yet under Trump Putin didn't get anything but sanctions... WHICH BIDEN LIFTED.

The proof is in the pudding.

Counter-argument?