pknopp
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Then third party it is. It would not have been hard for Obama to be the president he said he was going to be.
If you want to piss away your vote on a third party, go ahead. Just stop complaining about Trump, because that's what you voted for.
It doesn't bother me that Hillary lost. She would be doing little different than Trump.
not true. she trusted & believed the 17 intel agencies all screaming that russia was committing cyber war against us & putin was determined to put his puppet in office. they are screaming that is happening again right now. hillary would not have tried to dismantle obamacare. trump is.
Trump isn't trying to do that either. There are little things here and there but to end Obamacare would mean Trump would have to come up with a replacement and he is too stupid to do that.
That said, I want it to end so that we can finally get to some sort of universal health care.
So Obamacare marches on under Trump just as it would have under Hillary.
hillary wouldn't have rolled back regs aka protections for bigcorp.
Sure she would have. They didnt give her all that money for nothing.
hillary wouldn't have essentially dissolved the EPA
It isn't dissolved.
i voted 3rd party in 2000 as a 'protest' vote against gore & my own state senator for VP as did a lot of people & because of that - - - we got W.
how did that work out for us?
Probably the same if Gore had won. Hillary never saw a war she wouldn't support. She threatened to shoot down Russian planes in parts of the world we have no business being in. I am NOT going to vote for that.
the ACA is in the courts right now moving up the food chain to determine if the whole thing is unconstitutional. research it. it started in texas - a bunch of redneck states joined in & the mandate was the first to go, but it's still active.
The court already ruled (erroneously) that it was Constitutional but as you note, this a state action. Something that would still be happening under Hillary.
hillary is a corporate (D) no doubt. chances are pretty high she wouldn't have touched medicare, social security & medicaid
Chances are no one will and what we will get at some point is Medicare for all.
trump just approved the rollback of the EPA regs that have been in place since 1970., when nixon founded it.
Obama approved thousands of off shore drilling permits. Six of one, half dozen of another.
hillary ain't running again, so your purity test shouldn't apply. but you don't get to complain about trump if you didn't vote in 2016 nor get to complain if you don't do whatever it takes to get him out. btw - - - bernie supported hillary in the end & pleaded with his supporters to not sit home or vote for jill stein. if you were a real bernie bro, you would have taken heed. & he will say it again, should he drop out at some point. he'll tell y'all the same thing this time too.
Bernie never said to not vote for Jill Stein that I am aware. Have a quote?
Bernie said he would support the (D) nominee. He lived up to his word. Something neither Hillary or Obama ever understood.
Nominate another corporate (D) and I will vote third party again.