Single payer in 8 years

When marty starts stuttering and spitting he is very unhappy. He is a libertarian who won't go negotiate a health care plan. He is mad that he can't game the system anymore.

How was I gaming the system? I spent years working hard at school, got a Master's degree, and got a job that offered a pretty decent health plan. Now the ACA comes along and I get less while paying more, both monthly and potentially due to a higher deductible. Why should others benefit from me getting screwed over?
 
I want to see the folks who dreamed of this happening
feel about it when they have to wait months and months for an appointment
with a specialist.....when it has to be approved by a government flunky.

Those who demand government run health care might get what they wanted...
That is the level of health care you get at the VA.
My health care at the VA is outstanding. The primary issue now, with the outside vendor rules now in place for veterans to receive private care, is to work as hard as possible to reduce the waiting time for new vets getting into the system.
 
I want to see the folks who dreamed of this happening
feel about it when they have to wait months and months for an appointment
with a specialist.....when it has to be approved by a government flunky.

Those who demand government run health care might get what they wanted...
That is the level of health care you get at the VA.
My health care at the VA is outstanding. The primary issue now, with the outside vendor rules now in place for veterans to receive private care, is to work as hard as possible to reduce the waiting time for new vets getting into the system.
Na, not really.
People are dying, waiting for care. For the most part just like every other type of government socialist entitlement program - it sucks ass
 
I want to see the folks who dreamed of this happening
feel about it when they have to wait months and months for an appointment
with a specialist.....when it has to be approved by a government flunky.

Those who demand government run health care might get what they wanted...
That is the level of health care you get at the VA.
My health care at the VA is outstanding. The primary issue now, with the outside vendor rules now in place for veterans to receive private care, is to work as hard as possible to reduce the waiting time for new vets getting into the system.
Na, not really.
People are dying, waiting for care. For the most part just like every other type of government socialist entitlement program - it sucks ass
One, if they are, you need to give solid evidence. Two, you need to compare it to private care in general to determine if VA is worse, better, or the same.

You can't and you won't because you will lose the point.
 
I want to see the folks who dreamed of this happening
feel about it when they have to wait months and months for an appointment
with a specialist.....when it has to be approved by a government flunky.

Those who demand government run health care might get what they wanted...
That is the level of health care you get at the VA.
My health care at the VA is outstanding. The primary issue now, with the outside vendor rules now in place for veterans to receive private care, is to work as hard as possible to reduce the waiting time for new vets getting into the system.
Na, not really.
People are dying, waiting for care. For the most part just like every other type of government socialist entitlement program - it sucks ass
One, if they are, you need to give solid evidence. Two, you need to compare it to private care in general to determine if VA is worse, better, or the same.

You can't and you won't because you will lose the point.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."
 
I want to see the folks who dreamed of this happening
feel about it when they have to wait months and months for an appointment
with a specialist.....when it has to be approved by a government flunky.

Those who demand government run health care might get what they wanted...
That is the level of health care you get at the VA.
My health care at the VA is outstanding. The primary issue now, with the outside vendor rules now in place for veterans to receive private care, is to work as hard as possible to reduce the waiting time for new vets getting into the system.
Na, not really.
People are dying, waiting for care. For the most part just like every other type of government socialist entitlement program - it sucks ass
One, if they are, you need to give solid evidence. Two, you need to compare it to private care in general to determine if VA is worse, better, or the same.

You can't and you won't because you will lose the point.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."
All you have is your opinion, so take note of your note.
 
I want to see the folks who dreamed of this happening
feel about it when they have to wait months and months for an appointment
with a specialist.....when it has to be approved by a government flunky.

Those who demand government run health care might get what they wanted...
That is the level of health care you get at the VA.
My health care at the VA is outstanding. The primary issue now, with the outside vendor rules now in place for veterans to receive private care, is to work as hard as possible to reduce the waiting time for new vets getting into the system.
Na, not really.
People are dying, waiting for care. For the most part just like every other type of government socialist entitlement program - it sucks ass
One, if they are, you need to give solid evidence. Two, you need to compare it to private care in general to determine if VA is worse, better, or the same.

You can't and you won't because you will lose the point.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."
Did you just learn that? Good. I gave an anecdote. You gave your opinion. I guided you how to respond to it, and you have failed completely.
 
You don't do "evidence", Fakey...everyone has already realized that!
When needed, of course I do. What I don't ever do is allow a far righty to win a debate. You and your pack never will. Fact.

To the OP: single payer is inevitable.
 

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