Since When Did Paul Ryan Become a Liar?

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    Since When Did Paul Ryan Become a Liar?

    A week ago, Paul Ryan’s political assets included — alongside his chiseled torso, plainspoken Midwestern demeanor, and the unshakable loyalty of the entire Republican Party — a firm reputation for honesty among the mainstream media. That reputation has suffered a massive, swift erosion. News stories about his speech at the Republican National Convention focused on its many rhetorical sleights of hand. Over the weekend, the revelation that he dramatically misstated a marathon time added a crucial, accessible piece of evidence to the indictment. Now liberals are calling him “Lyin’ Ryan” — a nickname that, a few weeks ago, would have seemed silly, like “Wimpy Palin.” Now mainstream pundits are defending Ryan with versions of the “well, all politicians fib” defense. Given that this constituency was once portraying Ryan as unusually honest, this represents a huge retreat for his political brand. What happened?

    Here’s what has not happened: Paul Ryan did not begin telling an unprecedented series of lies that suddenly exposed a predilection for shading the truth. His marathon boast is certainly odd and may well be a deliberate lie, but it could also be a simple failure to recall. The New Yorker’s Nicholas Thompson, arguing for the prosecution, contends that “for someone who does run seriously,” missing a marathon time by as a vast a level as Ryan does is nearly impossible. On the other hand, given that the race occurred in 1990 and was Ryan’s only marathon, perhaps the explanation is that Ryan just isn’t a serious runner.

    And Ryan’s Tampa speech, while pretty dishonest, was not especially so by Ryan’s standards. Here you can see why Ryan must view the sudden attack of the truth squad so bewilderingly. Ryan has been saying things like this, and worse, all along. The bit where he sadly shakes his head and blames President Obama for the failure of the Bowles-Simpson deficit commission that Ryan killed himself has been a staple of the Ryan shtick for two years. Reporters usually bat their eyes and coo sympathetically. Now it has become evidence of his duplicity .

    Ryan seems to have fallen victim to circumstances he didn’t quite foresee. The Romney campaign has spent the last several weeks practically daring the national press corps to call out its lies. Well beyond the usual exaggerations of a national campaign, Romney has built its entire message around two accusations — “you didn’t build that” and “just send them a check” — that are obviously false. A day before Ryan’s speech, a Romney adviser told reporters, “We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.” The media that had spent the last two and a half years nuzzling gently in Ryan’s lap had been prodded with sharp sticks and reacted in the predictable fashion, though probably not predictable to Ryan himself.

    The thing about Ryan is that he has always resided in a counter-factual universe. He is a product of the hermetically sealed right-wing subculture. Many of the facts taken for granted by mainstream economists have never penetrated his brain. Ryan burst onto the national scene with a dense, fact-laden attack on the financing of Obama’s health-care bill that was essentially a series of hallucinations, pseudo-facts cooked up and recirculated by conservative apparatchiks who didn’t know what they were talking about or didn’t care. His big-think speeches reflect the influence of fact-free conservatives and collapse under scrutiny.



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    He didn't.

    He spoke the truth and you left wingnut liars have lied about THAT.
     
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    All of the embedded links are very informative. But Rightwingers won't like them. :)
     
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    ^^^^^

    See? :lol:
     
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    “We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.” - Neil Newhouse, a Romney pollster.
     
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    Yep. You fubars falsely LABELED what Ryan said at the convention a "lie" when it was actually the simple truth.

    GM Janesville plant still on standby - JSOnline

    Liberal Democratics have no integrity.
     
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    Bitch Bitch Bitch! Like a loyal Obamabot was ever gonna believe anything he said. These kinds of posts are so disingenuous & lame. This OP was never gonna vote for Romney and Ryan anyway. So he or she isn't exactly a credible unbiased source. Somehow i bet this OP doesn't get outraged over their Dear Leader's many lies. What do ya think?
     
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    It's only a lie if it can be spun up in Obama's favor.
     
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    The "question" is not 'when did Ryan start lying?'

    The real question is "will President Obama ever STOP lying?"
     
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    Is this the third or fourth thread on this?
     

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