Should Trump Insist on his Constitutional Right to Speedy Trials?

[Lastamender]

I'm talking about the classified documents case before Judge Eileen Cannon, who oroginally set an August 2023 trial date.

Jack Smith knew because of the requirement of getting security clearances for Trumps lawyers, that the trial should be delayed until December 2023. And to help meet that date, Jack Smith delivered all the non-classified discovery, including discovery not required to be given to the defendant, unless they asked for it.

Jack Smith is a hack that has been sucking globalist dick since his career began. Period. He has absolutely no interest in justice. He is an attack dog. He is ugly, too.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Trump's entire campaign should focus on the corruption of the DOJ and the FBI. The US cannot survive with a justice system controlled by a Political Party.

I agree. The US cannot survive with a justice system controlled by a Political Party. If you had been aying attention, you would know that is exactly what Trumps wants to do if elected. Hell, not even controlled by the part. He wants to control it himself along with every other govermentagenct , He said so. Thank you for making the case for keeping him out of the white house

 

[Seymour Flops]

Eugene Debs was sitting in prison when he was selected as the nominee for President by the Socialist Party.

Spiro Agnew was on the cusp of being indicted while he was serving as Vice President. He agreed to a plea deal and resigned.

Lyndon LaRouche ran as a third party candidate while serving time in prison.

Rick Perry was under indictment when he was a candidate in the 2016 presidential race.

And then there's the Tiger King...

Did they all annouce their candidacies only to get out of the charges?

 

[g5000]

Did they all annouce their candidacies only to get out of the charges?

Doesn't matter. What matters is Trump is making up a rule which those examples prove does not exist, and the rubes are once again buying into his bullshit.

 

[meaner gene]

The DOJ's ideal strategy is for the trial to take place during the election, not before or after the election. That's why they asked for a delay until December. Obviously, they are not going to start a major trial in December, everyone wants to dial it down for the holidays.

The May start date plays right into the hands of Smith and the maxed-out Democratic donors on his team. They can time it to rest their case after presenting their most dramatic witness on the day before election day, giving the defense no time to present its case until the voting is over.

Absolutely wrong. A December trial means that's the start of jury selection. Based on needing to get an impartial jury, that is likely to delay the actual seating of the jury until after the christmas and new years holiday.

 

[Lastamender]

Absolutely wrong. A December trial means that's the start of jury selection. Based on needing to get an impartial jury, that is likely to delay the actual seating of the jury until after the christmas and new years holiday.

They do not want an impartial jury. Stop lying.

 

[Lastamender]

I agree. The US cannot survive with a justice system controlled by a Political Party. If you had been aying attention, you would know that is exactly what Trumps wants to do if elected. Hell, not even controlled by the part. He wants to control it himself along with every other govermentagenct , He said so. Thank you for making the case for keeping him out of the white house

You just keep getting dumber. I hope it is not terminal.

 

[meaner gene]

When has Trump said that you can't indict a candidate?

Don't try to flip the script

Trump is saying that you can't TRY a candidate until after the election.

And of course if elected president, Trump would be protected because can't TRY a sitting president.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You have it backwards in the case of Trump. Trump did not get indicted for a crime and then declare his candidacy in order to get out of the charges. Trump declared his candidacy and was the frontrunner for the opposition party.

Trump knew the indictments were coming, he had been told he was the focus of multiple investigations. So he declared his candidacy because he knew that people like you would think that makes him above the law.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Doesn't matter. What matters is Trump is making up a rule which those examples prove does not exist, and the rubes are once again buying into his bullshit.

So, if running prior to or around the same time as being indicted is not proof that running is for the purpose of dodging the charges, what is you proof that this is what Trump did?

Again, I ask. What rule did Trump trie to make up? Where did he say anything about making a new rule?

 

[Lastamender]

Trump knew the indictments were coming, he had been told he was the focus of multiple investigation. So he declared his candidacy because he knew that people like you would think that makes him above the law.

We know who is above the law and Trump is not one of those people.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Trump knew the indictments were coming, he had been told he was the focus of multiple investigation. So he declared his candidacy because he knew that people like you would think that makes him above the law.

So Trump has no interest in being president again?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So Trump has no interest in being president again?

Of course he does, it is his best chance of not being found guilty on one of his many indictments.

Plus he wants to get revenge on everyone that has not bowed down to him as well as consolidate and increase the power of the Office of the President so that he can control every aspect of Govt.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I like to take the right to a speedy trial first then go through Due Process second.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Trump's strident abuse of officers of the court and their families may not be the most sound approach to refuting charges against him.

Nor is his pleading, "You can't allow me my Constitutional right for a speedy trial when I'm running for president!"

if that were the case, every criminal charged with a crime would declare that he is a candidate for the presidency (although, characters like Ru Giuliani and Wally Nauta vying with Trump for the GOP nomination would be decidedly mirthful. And Trump's dozens of fake electors throwing their hats into the ring as they are charged would add to the fun!)

In this case, the accused, rather than dragging his flabby fat arse, should be demanding his 6th Amendment right to speedy trials in all his litigations.

The clearest path to the White House for Trump is to avail himself of his opportunity to clear his name in all prosecutions as expeditiously as possible.

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A federal judge in Florida has scheduled a trial date for next May for Trump in a case charging him with illegally retaining hundreds of classified documents.​

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The May 20, 2024, trial date, set Friday by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, is a compromise between a request from prosecutors to set the trial for this December and a bid by defense lawyers to schedule it after the 2024 presidential election.​

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If the date holds, it would follow close on the heels of a separate New York trial for Trump on dozens of state charges of falsifying business records. It also means the trial will not start until deep into the presidential nominating calendar and probably well after the Republican nominee is clear — though before that person is officially nominated at the Republican National Convention.​

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Trump could yet face additional trials in the coming year. He revealed this week that he had received a letter informing him that he was a target of a separate Justice Department investigation into efforts to undo the 2020 presidential election, and prosecutors in Georgia plan to announce charging decisions within weeks in an investigation into attempts by Trump and his allies to subvert the vote there.​

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ssified-documents-case-in-florida/ar-AA1eaAuT]​

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By pushing for an expedited schedule and venues for his various trials, Trump could then coordinate his trumpery jamborees accordingly, making them into gala affairs that lend themselves readily to witness intimidation. His political campaign and his prosecutorial exposure will be shamelessly conflated by him anyway.

Even though the President has scrupulously avoided Trump's legal problems, Trump will play the martyr and whine that Joe Biden is being very mean to him.

Trump's "Lets' fart around" strategy is a missed opportunity.


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................"He's scared shitless."

Why prolong the anxiety?

You're obsessed.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Sure. Losing the election is a possibility. But dragging this out makes it a lot more probable the President Trump will schlong Sleepy Joe next November. The trial helps with his Presidential Quest, by preventing anyone else's bid from getting traction.

And making Trump into a martyr.

There will be plenty of folks in the middle not crazy about Trump that abhor that the Left is weaponizing the Legal System against its political opponents.

Already the FBI is down to a 37% approval. Back in 2018 it was 52%. That is no coincidence.

The Left is sowing the seeds of its own electoral demise.

 

[MagicMike]

Fuck that whore bitch **** judge! Fuck her!

Don't hold back Bill.
Tell us how you feel.

 

[meaner gene]

So, if running prior to or around the same time as being indicted is not proof that running is for the purpose of dodging the charges, what is you proof that this is what Trump did?

Again, I ask. What rule did Trump trie to make up? Where did he say anything about making a new rule?

Trump was trying to get the protections from criminal prosecution of a sitting president.

He had it before, and he wanted it again, before the bell started to toll.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Of course he does, it is his best chance of not being found guilty on one of his many indictments.

I think you mean that he could pardon himself. Unless you really think that a sitting president cannot be found guilty if his trial is ongoing when he takes office? If so, where did you get that idea?

Plus he wants to get revenge on everyone that has not bowed down to him as well as consolidate and increase the power of the Office of the President so that he can control every aspect of Govt.

Then he was going to announce, regardless of the indictment, so the claim that he is running due to the indictment is absurd.

 

[MarathonMike]

He's already doing that^^^^^^.
Have you not been paying attention?

No I haven't because as I've said, it's too early to pay attention to an election 16 months out.