Should there be a mandatory civics exam before you can vote?

[Darkwind]

Might save us from uninformed & dangerous people.

I’m all for it. Republicans would lose every election.

I suggest this be the first question:

Who received the most votes in the presidential election of 2016?
A) Hillary Clinton
B) Donald Trump
C) Jill Stein
D) None of the above.

Get it wrong, and you don't get to vote. Brilliant idea.

I have a better one. How is the election of the President determined?

a. Hugo Chavez
b. Che
c. Electoral College
d. Popular vote
e. None of the above.

 

[Darkwind]

I would suggest if you don’t know how The President is elected in this country, you should not be allowed to vote.

People already know that. You just pretend the popular vote isn’t important even though we all know it represents true democracy.

True democracy leads to mob rule. That's why the founding fathers wisely gave less populated states an equalizer.

Mob rule? What does that even mean? Can you explain it?

It means the big liberal urban areas elect whoever they want and the rural areas never have a voice again. It means that two or three heavily populated states could rule the entire country with only 51% of the total votes in national elections. The Electoral College keeps that from happening.

The Senate has two representatives from each state regardless of the populations of those states. The House of Representatives has different numbers of members from each state depending on the population of each state.

The United States is not intended to be a true democracy. It is a democratic republic.

Practice the Pledge of Allegiance...to the flag...and the Republic for which it stands....

The hypocrisy of conservatives is truly remarkable.

When the Supreme Court strikes down a state measure prohibiting same-sex couples from marrying, or invalidates a state law that compels a woman to give birth against her will, conservatives throw the American Republic out the window and whine about the ‘will of the people’ and judges ‘legislating from the bench.’

But they’re all for the American Republic when it benefits them politically.

Conservatives can’t have it both ways.

We're not trying to have it both ways.

Murder is wrong in this country. Has been since its founding. Abortion is murder.

Perfectly consistent. you, not so much.

 

[fncceo]

It means the big liberal urban areas elect whoever they want and the rural areas never have a voice again. It means that two or three heavily populated states could rule the entire country with only 51% of the total votes in national elections. The Electoral College keeps that from happening.

The Senate has two representatives from each state regardless of the populations of those states. The House of Representatives has different numbers of members from each state depending on the population of each state.

The United States is not intended to be a true democracy. It is a democratic republic.

Practice the Pledge of Allegiance...to the flag...and the Republic for which it stands....

Let me see if I am following your logic here. You’re saying the founding fathers had predicted that New York and a state that didn’t even exist at the time (California) would become “liberal states”. What did “liberal” even mean to the founding fathers?

Of course, even if the founding fathers could have magically predicted the population distribution of the country, they would make sure states like Vermont or Rhode Island would only have one senator instead of two.

Even in 1780, there were disparities in population between colonies and newly sparsely populated territories were already poised to join the union.

You’re just making shit up as you go along. Obviously there would be disparities, but not even close to big enough for the founding fathers to even care.

If you’re feeling uncomfortable with the way our Constitution is written you can always try to change it.

Until then, you gotta live with it.

See, this is just a convenient narrative you pretend you care about. Had Hillary won the electoral college but lost the popular vote, you dumbasses wouldn’t shut up about it.

When Obama won his second term, he won the popular vote by 5 million votes. Fox News pretended this was “slim” even though it obviously wasn’t. His electoral college win was by a smaller margin (still bigger than Trump’s win against Hillary) and Fox News decided to question the validity of the electoral college. You people are hypocrites no matter how you slice it.

Is it a habit if yours to call people you don’t know ‘dumbass’?

I hope you only do it when your anonymity guarantees your safety.

I’d hate to see you get hurt.

 

[Darkwind]

You guys just can't help being cliches, can you?

Why is it that Republicans always want less people to vote?

That would be fewer people.

Why is it the Democrats want people without IDs to vote?

Because citizens are already registered to vote and confirmed as eligible, no further identification is warranted.

And voter ‘fraud’ by identity is so exceedingly rare that voter ID laws are neither justified nor Constitutional.

You want to know what else is exceedingly rare?

Gun violence.

Less than one half of one percent of the population is involved in a gun incident. That means that 99.995% of the population won't ever have a gun used against them in a crime.

Yet you clowns are always trying to punish the innocent for something that is so rare as to be statistically insignificant.

Requiring to pass a citizenship test that we require of immigrants, in order to vote, isn't really that large a burden to place on people.

 

[Billy000]

Let me see if I am following your logic here. You’re saying the founding fathers had predicted that New York and a state that didn’t even exist at the time (California) would become “liberal states”. What did “liberal” even mean to the founding fathers?

Of course, even if the founding fathers could have magically predicted the population distribution of the country, they would make sure states like Vermont or Rhode Island would only have one senator instead of two.

Even in 1780, there were disparities in population between colonies and newly sparsely populated territories were already poised to join the union.

You’re just making shit up as you go along. Obviously there would be disparities, but not even close to big enough for the founding fathers to even care.

If you’re feeling uncomfortable with the way our Constitution is written you can always try to change it.

Until then, you gotta live with it.

See, this is just a convenient narrative you pretend you care about. Had Hillary won the electoral college but lost the popular vote, you dumbasses wouldn’t shut up about it.

When Obama won his second term, he won the popular vote by 5 million votes. Fox News pretended this was “slim” even though it obviously wasn’t. His electoral college win was by a smaller margin (still bigger than Trump’s win against Hillary) and Fox News decided to question the validity of the electoral college. You people are hypocrites no matter how you slice it.

Is it a habit if yours to call people you don’t know ‘dumbass’?

I hope you only do it when your anonymity guarantees your safety.

I’d hate to see you get hurt.

Well that’s sweet of you to care!

 

[IM2]

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Yeah like Donald Trump.

 

[IM2]

That kind of thing was tried before and it did not go well.

when did that happen? And what went so wrong?

It was done from at least the end of slavery until 1964. The problem is that such practice is unconstitutional.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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I DO believe two things Gramps-----

1). Time was when you had to be a tax payer in order to vote. Bring that back.

2). Yes, there ought to be some sort of rudimentary test. If you can't even name the VP or some basic legislative or other actions or events, chances are good you probably don't know much past what the media feeds you at election time. Might encourage a lot of people to pay more attention to what really goes on in the world.

Who in this country is not a "taxpayer"? Everyone pays some sort of tax.

 

[initforme]

American civics was the most boring useless class I ever took. I already sat thru it unwillingly once.....but I did sit through it. So there I took it. Don't care to remember much about it but no way would I support it. That's only for the immigration process. Citizens thru birthrate should have to pass nothing.

 

[DOTR]

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We should go back to our historical roots and demand land ownership as well.

 

[initforme]

Owning land is simply a choice and their votes are no more valuable than non land owners. Every natural born citizen should have to do nothing in order to vote other than register.No demonstration of knowledge our system, nothing. Your birth here automatically makes you knowledgeable. Only those that are immigrating lawfully should have to understand our ways.

 

[Wyatt earp]

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Who would write the questions the biased left who hates the 2nd amendment?

 

[Two Thumbs]

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As often as I wish rights should be earned, I'm against this b/c rights should not be earned, since they were paid for long ago.

 

[Timmy]

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There should probably have to be a background check and a mandatory waiting period.

How about mandatory registration ? For guns and voting .

 

[IM2]

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We should go back to our historical roots and demand land ownership as well.

I really don't think that's a wise idea.

 

[Two Thumbs]

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There should probably have to be a background check and a mandatory waiting period.

How about mandatory registration ? For guns and voting .

we have mandatory registration for guns, it violates our right to privacy, but not enough people care.


How would you punish people that didn't register to vote?

 

[IM2]

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As often as I wish rights should be earned, I'm against this b/c rights should not be earned, since they were paid for long ago.

Some of us did actually have to earn our rights. And for some of us our right to vote comes up for congressional approval every 20 -25 years.

 

[initforme]

It's a very dumb idea.

 

[Two Thumbs]

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As often as I wish rights should be earned, I'm against this b/c rights should not be earned, since they were paid for long ago.

Some of us did actually have to earn our rights. And for some of us our right to vote comes up for congressional approval every 20 -25 years.

which ones did you earn?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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We should go back to our historical roots and demand land ownership as well.

This would keep a great many members of the military from voting. When you are moving every 3 years or less such things are not very profitable.

Perhaps we should tie voting into public service, make people earn the right to vote.