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Straw Man.
Well, let me ask you directly. Should people who pay no Federal income taxes be permitted to vote for politician who promises to give them largess from the Federal treasury if elected?
Yes they should. Unless of course you want to deny the vote to anyone who gets anything from the government.
You could start by disqualifying anyone with a financial interest in defense contractors.
Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?
When Socrates and his friends were talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In todays terms, that means, ---- taxpayer. The core of democracy.
There are two types of citizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.
Once the taxpayer hands over his wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.
This is counter to the taxpayers wishes.
Why do taxpayers allow this situation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?
If taxtakers had done a good job with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.
Should those who pay the way of our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?
Since the right to do so is tied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?
Regards
DL
Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?
When Socrates and his friends were talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In todays terms, that means, ---- taxpayer. The core of democracy.
There are two types of citizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.
Once the taxpayer hands over his wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.
This is counter to the taxpayers wishes.
Why do taxpayers allow this situation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?
If taxtakers had done a good job with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.
Should those who pay the way of our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?
Since the right to do so is tied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?
Regards
DL
Maybe at one time but not now,a little colonial?
Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.
But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..
Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.
But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..
You shot down your own argument. People who don't pay taxes haven't paid the "admission." Therefore, according to you, they aren't entitled to have voice in government.
Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.
But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..
You shot down your own argument. People who don't pay taxes haven't paid the "admission." Therefore, according to you, they aren't entitled to have voice in government.
But nice try, bucky. No. Really!
LOL
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.
Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?
Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.
So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?
How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.
Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?
Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.
But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..
You shot down your own argument. People who don't pay taxes haven't paid the "admission." Therefore, according to you, they aren't entitled to have voice in government.
Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.
So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?
How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.
Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?
Stupid liberal...........
So you're perfectly fine with second and third generation welfare recipients voting to give themselves more free shit while never attempting to find a job and become a productive member of society?
Of course you are........
Dont you have an OWS rally to attend or something?
Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.
So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?
How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.
Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?
Stupid liberal...........
So you're perfectly fine with second and third generation welfare recipients voting to give themselves more free shit while never attempting to find a job and become a productive member of society?
Of course you are........
Dont you have an OWS rally to attend or something?
So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?
How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.
Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?
Stupid liberal...........
So you're perfectly fine with second and third generation welfare recipients voting to give themselves more free shit while never attempting to find a job and become a productive member of society?
Of course you are........
Dont you have an OWS rally to attend or something?
Second and third generation?
No one votes themselves "Free Shit". That's a fallacy.
Oh..come to think of it..it's not.
Because the super wealthy vote themselves "Free Shit".
They get to travel in first class, go to the best restaurants, and see broadway shows..all with your approval and on your dime.