Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?

[regent]

America allowed Washington, Jefferson, Adams and others to vote and they didn't pay federal income taxes. Perhaps we should be trying to create economic conditions so all Americans are rich and all would have to pay federal income taxes?

 

[SniperFire]

Straw Man.

Well, let me ask you directly. Should people who pay no Federal income taxes be permitted to vote for politician who promises to give them largess from the Federal treasury if elected?

Yes they should. Unless of course you want to deny the vote to anyone who gets anything from the government.

You could start by disqualifying anyone with a financial interest in defense contractors.

LOL


Like I expected a different response from a communist.

 

[candycorn]

Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?

When Socrates and his friends were talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In today’s terms, that means, ---- taxpayer. The core of democracy.

There are two types of citizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.

Once the taxpayer hands over his wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.

This is counter to the taxpayer’s wishes.

Why do taxpayers allow this situation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?

If taxtakers had done a good job with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.

Should those who pay the way of our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?

Since the right to do so is tied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?

Regards
DL

No. Terrible idea.

 

[SniperFire]

Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?

When Socrates and his friends were talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In today’s terms, that means, ---- taxpayer. The core of democracy.

There are two types of citizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.

Once the taxpayer hands over his wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.

This is counter to the taxpayer’s wishes.

Why do taxpayers allow this situation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?

If taxtakers had done a good job with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.

Should those who pay the way of our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?

Since the right to do so is tied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?

Regards
DL

Maybe at one time but not now,a little colonial?

But look what the freeloaders just voted into office. Never ending trillion dollar deficits that they could give two shits about since they won't be paying any of it off.

 

[Sallow]

No.

And the Constitution wouldn't allow that.

 

[whitehall]

Dumb idea. Everybody pays taxes including ex-convicts and non citizens. Illegal aliens and fugitives even pay sales tax when they aren't stealing something.

 

[bripat9643]

Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.

But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..

You shot down your own argument. People who don't pay taxes haven't paid the "admission." Therefore, according to you, they aren't entitled to have voice in government.

 

[SniperFire]

Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.

But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..

You shot down your own argument. People who don't pay taxes haven't paid the "admission." Therefore, according to you, they aren't entitled to have voice in government.

But nice try, bucky. No. Really!

LOL


“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

 

[candycorn]

Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.

But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..

You shot down your own argument. People who don't pay taxes haven't paid the "admission." Therefore, according to you, they aren't entitled to have voice in government.

But nice try, bucky. No. Really!

LOL


“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

Few have doubts about you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If Conservatism ever emerges from intellectual bankruptcy, one of the stipulations should be that they are never again allowed to propose ideas as foolish as this one.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.

 

[Seawytch]

Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.

So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?

How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.

Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Working Americans who pay no federal income taxes do so because of tax legislation supported by conservatives,

now, the cons vilify those people and want to take away their right to vote.

That's the kind of irony that only conservatism can produce.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?

Almost every adult pays some sort of tax.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.

So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?

How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.

Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?

Stupid liberal...........
So you're perfectly fine with second and third generation welfare recipients voting to give themselves more free shit while never attempting to find a job and become a productive member of society?
Of course you are........
Dont you have an OWS rally to attend or something?

 

[Sallow]

Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.

But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility..

You shot down your own argument. People who don't pay taxes haven't paid the "admission." Therefore, according to you, they aren't entitled to have voice in government.

You're seeing something that isn't there..

 

[Sallow]

Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.

So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?

How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.

Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?

Stupid liberal...........
So you're perfectly fine with second and third generation welfare recipients voting to give themselves more free shit while never attempting to find a job and become a productive member of society?
Of course you are........
Dont you have an OWS rally to attend or something?

Second and third generation?



No one votes themselves "Free Shit". That's a fallacy.

Oh..come to think of it..it's not.

Because the super wealthy vote themselves "Free Shit".

They get to travel in first class, go to the best restaurants, and see broadway shows..all with your approval and on your dime.

 

[Seawytch]

Everyone pays taxes of some sort,so no you cant base voting rights on that.
Now if you said no welfare kings and queens are allowed to vote? I'm good with that.
And while you're at it make drug testing mandatory for anyone on welfare for more then a year.

So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?

How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.

Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?

Stupid liberal...........
So you're perfectly fine with second and third generation welfare recipients voting to give themselves more free shit while never attempting to find a job and become a productive member of society?
Of course you are........
Dont you have an OWS rally to attend or something?

Yeah, I'm a stupid liberal that believes every citizen has the RIGHT to vote.

 

[Katzndogz]

Taxes SHOULD fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility. But that's not what taxes do. Taxes support people who don't pay taxes. Voting gives the indolent, the lazy, the shiftless an opportunity to vote themselves a raise. If anything, they should have limited ballots. So that they can be heard on issues that don't involve voting themselves funds from the public treasury.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So if you have to take public assistance because the corporate raiders destroyed the company you worked for and shipped your job overseas, now you don't get to vote?

How about every fucking citizen of the US gets to vote.

Seriously, if you think YOUR message is the best one, why not try and convince people of that instead of trying to stop them from voting at all?

Stupid liberal...........
So you're perfectly fine with second and third generation welfare recipients voting to give themselves more free shit while never attempting to find a job and become a productive member of society?
Of course you are........
Dont you have an OWS rally to attend or something?

Second and third generation?



No one votes themselves "Free Shit". That's a fallacy.

Oh..come to think of it..it's not.

Because the super wealthy vote themselves "Free Shit".

They get to travel in first class, go to the best restaurants, and see broadway shows..all with your approval and on your dime.

Yeah.....Those fucken Obamas and their vacations on my dime are getting a little old.
So you're saying those second and third generation welfare recipients vote republican?
The problem with your theory on the rich is that they produce wealth and those jobs that the welfare recipients avoid. Big difference skippy.