Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?

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  1. GreatestIam
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    Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?

    When Socrates and his friends were talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In today’s terms, that means, ---- taxpayer. The core of democracy.

    There are two types of citizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.

    Once the taxpayer hands over his wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.

    This is counter to the taxpayer’s wishes.

    Why do taxpayers allow this situation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?

    If taxtakers had done a good job with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.

    Should those who pay the way of our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?

    Since the right to do so is tied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?

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    Of course.

    Anything else eventually leads to collapse and tyranny.
     
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    I see nothing wrong with allowing a non-working stay-at-home mother to vote. Nor do I see a problem with someone who has been laid off in a bad economy to vote.
     
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    A terrible idea:
    A disable veteran who has given everything for his country shouldn't have a voice in selecting it's leaders? An elderly person who has worked all their life and paid taxes is now to be denied the right to vote? A mother with 4 kids who has been abandoned by her husband is to have no voice in how her country is run because she doesn't make enough a money.
     
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    The arrogance of the right baffles me at times.

    You are rich, in part, because of the existence of a strong and capable government. By that...I mean that you had the freedom and security to wake up, go to work, and earn a lot of money, then go home to a big house, nice car, flat screen TV, etc, etc, etc. And you did not have to worry about a horde of hungry, angry, desperate people coming to rob you, rape your family and/or kill you.

    Our government, for all its flaws, maintains a relatively civil, safe society. It doesnt cause anyone to get rich, it doesn't "allow" anyone to get rich. It simply provides an open canvas for each citizen to do what they wish. Get rich, stay poor, whatever.

    But admission to that canvas has a price, its called taxes. You want to live in a safe, civil society (canvas) where you can paint your life how you wish. If you get rich, and dont have to worry about mass violence, famine, or gangs of government thugs invading your home with guns (like Mexico and Iraq) to steal your wife, TV, food........that means living in a society like ours, where taxes fund a structured agency that simply keeps the peace and civility.

    Government doesnt make anyone rich, or prevent anyone from being rich. It simply keeps the road open, and people drive down that road to poverty, wealth or middle class all on their own. But again, THAT road has a toll: taxes.

    Dont like that? Fine. Mexico, Iraq, Africa, Asia all offer other roads...other forms of a canvas...where you can paint your life. But I got a feeling you'll pick the best one, America.

    Im fine with trying to improve and fix the flaws. But you ungrateful, greedy motherfuckers have done enough whining. You have it way too good here to be crying like a damn child all the time.
     
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    So I guess we'll have to create a heirarchy of unemployed, right?

    So if you are a veteran, who now doesnt work, you'll still get to vote, because you used to work.
    Or, if you are a retired NFL football player, but now dont work, you'll get to vote. You used to work.
    But if you are a poor black woman who used to work at McDonalds, but got hurt in a car wreck, and now are disabled, you wont get to vote.
    Or if you are a person who worked hard, but then developed Huntingtons Disease and can no longer work or drive, but aren't bad enough yet to be labeled "disabled", and are simply waiting 5-6 years for the disease to fully develop to "disabled" status, then you cant vote now, but, once you lose your mental capacity, then you can.

    Right wingers are fucking sick.
     
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    It shouldn't baffle you. The Right, at least those on this board look for simplistic knee jerk solutions to complex problems without considering the ramifications.
     
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    Without a capable private sector there is no existence of a strong government.
     
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    Id add veterans to the mix but yeah, for the most part only taxpayers should vote
     
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    How about entrepreneur/investors during their first year (or maybe two) starting up their company? It's quite common for them not to make any money.

    Should they not be allowed to vote? :cuckoo:
     

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