Should Illegal Aliens Be Allowed To Vote?

Should Illegal Aliens Be Allowed To Vote?


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LEGAL immigrants are not allowed to vote, why would we let ILLEGAL immigrants, when not even LEGAL immigrants can vote?

Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.


You are rather naive. There are counties with more people registered to vote than actually live in them...a portion of the registered are actually dead. That information can be exploited by those who wish to tip a close election.
The State, who issues death certificates, should remove DEAD PEOPLE from the voter rolls....it's their job, and it should be done upon death...WHY no one is getting to the problem at the ROOT OF THE PROBLEM is beyond reason....REMOVE THE DEAD SUCKERS from the voter rolls when they die...

PROBLEM SOLVED.

And cheaters would use absentee ballots...to vote for dead people....

we need the States to remove these dead people, why won't they????? Why?
 
LEGAL immigrants are not allowed to vote, why would we let ILLEGAL immigrants, when not even LEGAL immigrants can vote?

Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.

Anyone can register to vote, then vote. No ID is required at either end and it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship. All that is required is the persons "Attestation" that they are legal.

Surely no illegal person who is here ILLEGALLY would ever lie on a form!! No way!! They also never remove a tag from their mattresses!! It also why "gun free zones" never have gun violence.....

Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
 
Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.


You are rather naive. There are counties with more people registered to vote than actually live in them...a portion of the registered are actually dead. That information can be exploited by those who wish to tip a close election.
The State, who issues death certificates, should remove DEAD PEOPLE from the voter rolls....it's their job, and it should be done upon death...WHY no one is getting to the problem at the ROOT OF THE PROBLEM is beyond reason....REMOVE THE DEAD SUCKERS from the voter rolls when they die...

PROBLEM SOLVED.

And cheaters would use absentee ballots...to vote for dead people....

we need the States to remove these dead people, why won't they????? Why?


So your solution is the most complicated one: that Big Government should ensure that all data is accurate. That's working really well with ObamaCare. Complex, monolithic systems run by politicians are easy to exploit, as we have seen demonstrated recently in high relief by the GAO and the IRS.

The Simplest Solution is to decentralize accountability to the individual level. If someone does not have a picture ID and address to prove they are the person listed on the voter register, then said person shouldn't vote.
 
LEGAL immigrants are not allowed to vote, why would we let ILLEGAL immigrants, when not even LEGAL immigrants can vote?

Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.

Anyone can register to vote, then vote. No ID is required at either end and it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship. All that is required is the persons "Attestation" that they are legal.

Surely no illegal person who is here ILLEGALLY would ever lie on a form!! No way!! They also never remove a tag from their mattresses!! It also why "gun free zones" never have gun violence.....

Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
Mickey Mouse, registered to vote, with signature of stating he is a citizen....when the State receives the application, they verify the applications and then approve the application, before the person is actually registered to vote...and guess what, the State denied Mickey Mouse the voters registration card and Mickey's name never showed on the voter rolls....

the State needs to verify citizenship as one of the things, where the person lives as another, their age as another.....whether a felon or not as another etc etc etc....

The STATE needs to use e-verify and basically throw out the applications for those not citizens....their names will never make the voter rolls.
 
During the Great Wisconsin Recall Elections of Scott Walker, we had numerous instances of Adolf Hitler signing the petitions, and he's been dead for decades.
 
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.


You are rather naive. There are counties with more people registered to vote than actually live in them...a portion of the registered are actually dead. That information can be exploited by those who wish to tip a close election.
The State, who issues death certificates, should remove DEAD PEOPLE from the voter rolls....it's their job, and it should be done upon death...WHY no one is getting to the problem at the ROOT OF THE PROBLEM is beyond reason....REMOVE THE DEAD SUCKERS from the voter rolls when they die...

PROBLEM SOLVED.

And cheaters would use absentee ballots...to vote for dead people....

we need the States to remove these dead people, why won't they????? Why?


So your solution is the most complicated one: that Big Government should ensure that all data is accurate. That's working really well with ObamaCare. Complex, monolithic systems run by politicians are easy to exploit, as we have seen demonstrated recently in high relief by the GAO and the IRS.

The Simplest Solution is to decentralize accountability to the individual level. If someone does not have a picture ID and address to prove they are the person listed on the voter register, then said person shouldn't vote.
you are welcomed to your opinion.... but one entity, the State using e-verify is much much less complicated than having every citizen track down and get proof individually of their own birth....

We don't need "PAPERS PLEASE" to be citizens and live here, this is not Nazi Germany
 
Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.

Anyone can register to vote, then vote. No ID is required at either end and it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship. All that is required is the persons "Attestation" that they are legal.

Surely no illegal person who is here ILLEGALLY would ever lie on a form!! No way!! They also never remove a tag from their mattresses!! It also why "gun free zones" never have gun violence.....

Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
Mickey Mouse, registered to vote, with signature of stating he is a citizen....when the State receives the application, they verify the applications and then approve the application, before the person is actually registered to vote...and guess what, the State denied Mickey Mouse the voters registration card and Mickey's name never showed on the voter rolls....

the State needs to verify citizenship as one of the things, where the person lives as another, their age as another.....whether a felon or not as another etc etc etc....

The STATE needs to use e-verify and basically throw out the applications for those not citizens....their names will never make the voter rolls.

There is no backup or check in California. You just fill out a form with your name, address and birth date. You then "attest" that you are legally entitled to vote. No one checks. No ID is required. It's the honor system.
 
Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.

Anyone can register to vote, then vote. No ID is required at either end and it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship. All that is required is the persons "Attestation" that they are legal.

Surely no illegal person who is here ILLEGALLY would ever lie on a form!! No way!! They also never remove a tag from their mattresses!! It also why "gun free zones" never have gun violence.....

Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
Mickey Mouse, registered to vote, with signature of stating he is a citizen....when the State receives the application, they verify the applications and then approve the application, before the person is actually registered to vote...and guess what, the State denied Mickey Mouse the voters registration card and Mickey's name never showed on the voter rolls....

the State needs to verify citizenship as one of the things, where the person lives as another, their age as another.....whether a felon or not as another etc etc etc....

The STATE needs to use e-verify and basically throw out the applications for those not citizens....their names will never make the voter rolls.


Yeah, because E-verify is working So Well in keeping employers from hiring Illegal Aliens!
 
LEGAL immigrants are not allowed to vote, why would we let ILLEGAL immigrants, when not even LEGAL immigrants can vote?

Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....

Try again. That is against the law!

Supreme Court strikes down proof-of-citizenship provision in Arizona voting law
This is why the State, should do the vetting via e-verify, to discern if they are citizens or not.....
 
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.

Anyone can register to vote, then vote. No ID is required at either end and it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship. All that is required is the persons "Attestation" that they are legal.

Surely no illegal person who is here ILLEGALLY would ever lie on a form!! No way!! They also never remove a tag from their mattresses!! It also why "gun free zones" never have gun violence.....

Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
Mickey Mouse, registered to vote, with signature of stating he is a citizen....when the State receives the application, they verify the applications and then approve the application, before the person is actually registered to vote...and guess what, the State denied Mickey Mouse the voters registration card and Mickey's name never showed on the voter rolls....

the State needs to verify citizenship as one of the things, where the person lives as another, their age as another.....whether a felon or not as another etc etc etc....

The STATE needs to use e-verify and basically throw out the applications for those not citizens....their names will never make the voter rolls.

There is no backup or check in California. You just fill out a form with your name, address and birth date. You then "attest" that you are legally entitled to vote. No one checks. No ID is required. It's the honor system.


Let's pay our TAXES and conduct self-audits on the Honor System!
 
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.

Anyone can register to vote, then vote. No ID is required at either end and it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship. All that is required is the persons "Attestation" that they are legal.

Surely no illegal person who is here ILLEGALLY would ever lie on a form!! No way!! They also never remove a tag from their mattresses!! It also why "gun free zones" never have gun violence.....

Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
Mickey Mouse, registered to vote, with signature of stating he is a citizen....when the State receives the application, they verify the applications and then approve the application, before the person is actually registered to vote...and guess what, the State denied Mickey Mouse the voters registration card and Mickey's name never showed on the voter rolls....

the State needs to verify citizenship as one of the things, where the person lives as another, their age as another.....whether a felon or not as another etc etc etc....

The STATE needs to use e-verify and basically throw out the applications for those not citizens....their names will never make the voter rolls.

There is no backup or check in California. You just fill out a form with your name, address and birth date. You then "attest" that you are legally entitled to vote. No one checks. No ID is required. It's the honor system.


Good reason for a nation-wide voter ID law.
 
Simple question.

Should illegal Aliens be allowed to vote?

They live here! Shouldn't they have a say in how they are governed?
Dumb question. Of course not.

The fact that this question is even asked, indicates how f**ked up America has become.


The fact that this is even asked indicates how f**ked up the right wing is for claiming that is a problem that even exists.
 
at the initial sign up.....


That's fine as long as one then has to show one's ID in order to prove one is actually the person on the voter roster.
why? who votes in another person's place at the polls and taking the risk of getting caught and charged with a felony? no one.

Anyone can register to vote, then vote. No ID is required at either end and it is illegal to ask for proof of citizenship. All that is required is the persons "Attestation" that they are legal.

Surely no illegal person who is here ILLEGALLY would ever lie on a form!! No way!! They also never remove a tag from their mattresses!! It also why "gun free zones" never have gun violence.....

Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
Mickey Mouse, registered to vote, with signature of stating he is a citizen....when the State receives the application, they verify the applications and then approve the application, before the person is actually registered to vote...and guess what, the State denied Mickey Mouse the voters registration card and Mickey's name never showed on the voter rolls....

the State needs to verify citizenship as one of the things, where the person lives as another, their age as another.....whether a felon or not as another etc etc etc....

The STATE needs to use e-verify and basically throw out the applications for those not citizens....their names will never make the voter rolls.


Yeah, because E-verify is working So Well in keeping employers from hiring Illegal Aliens!
not all businesses use it....

The State welfare offices, have to prove citizenship of the person applying, even if they do not have any ids, the State can verify citizenship....they do it all the time, it is REQUIRED of them....

We can do this, and do this right....don't be such a Nay Sayer....
 
No way illegal aliens should be allowed to vote!

NO WAY!
 
Well, "THEY" are going to get to vote, like it or not. Here in Denver, there was all this machiavellian scheming that legislators came up with the so called "motor-voter" laws. Then they made it legal to give illegal aliens driver's licences. Opening up the flood gates, All "legal fair and square". This is the kind of crap that makes me want to become a revolutionary and storm the Bastille, metaphorically. Tired of these ass kissing sycophant politicos, ALL of them.
 
LEGAL immigrants are not allowed to vote, why would we let ILLEGAL immigrants, when not even LEGAL immigrants can vote?

Should you have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote?
at the initial sign up.....

Try again. That is against the law!

Supreme Court strikes down proof-of-citizenship provision in Arizona voting law
This is why the State, should do the vetting via e-verify, to discern if they are citizens or not.....

According to the SCOTUS, that is ILLEGAL. Under FEDERAL LAW the only requirement to register vote is an attestation. Read it yourself.....what could go wrong?
Title 42 - The Public Health And Welfare Chapter 20 - Elective Franchise Subchapter I-h - National Voter Registration | CRT | Department of Justice
 

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