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That's a lie.
Am I mistaken? Why don't you explain how the state is still going to send kids to the church then.
First of all it's a religiously affiliated organization, not a church. Secondly, the Catholic Charities need only comply. So, it isn't a question of no matter what they do.
The Court ruling in Hobby Lobby has established that companies have a right to practice their religion.
You're welcome.
Did that case rule there was an entitlement to receive a government contract when the organization desiring to be awarded the contract has indicated they will not fulfill the requirements of it?
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That's a lie.
Am I mistaken? Why don't you explain how the state is still going to send kids to the church then.
First of all it's a religiously affiliated organization, not a church. Secondly, the Catholic Charities need only comply. So, it isn't a question of no matter what they do.
The Court ruling in Hobby Lobby has established that companies have a right to practice their religion.
You're welcome.
Did that case rule there was an entitlement to receive a government contract when the organization desiring to be awarded the contract has indicated they will not fulfill the requirements of it?
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Organizations which are religious based can currently discriminate based on religion when hiring even if they receive federal funding.
Federal funding of religious institutions Secular Coalition for America
Not that big of a leap of logic to conclude that they could also discriminate as to who they serve.
That's a lie.
Am I mistaken? Why don't you explain how the state is still going to send kids to the church then.
First of all it's a religiously affiliated organization, not a church. Secondly, the Catholic Charities need only comply. So, it isn't a question of no matter what they do.
The Court ruling in Hobby Lobby has established that companies have a right to practice their religion.
You're welcome.
It's disgusting for these degenerates to trash a program like Catholic Charities and faith based adoption programs on the basis of a tiny demographic of mentally ill sexual fetishists being 'upset' over being denied one of their fashion accessories from that particular agency. This demographic is miniscule in numbers of children adopted anyway, and they don't have to go through Catholic Charities if they're so offended by Xians and the like; there are agencies with far lower standards and concern for children they can apply to and that are willing to hand over babies and children to mentally ill sexual fetishists for their personal amusement.
No surprise degenerates here are drooling over themselves at their success in this inane endeavor; sociopaths are obsessed with with their own narcissism and self-indulgence, and have no concerns whatsoever over the marginalization of a charity over 100 years old. Of course they have nothing to replace the object of their witless hatred and the services they provided.
Am I mistaken? Why don't you explain how the state is still going to send kids to the church then.
First of all it's a religiously affiliated organization, not a church. Secondly, the Catholic Charities need only comply. So, it isn't a question of no matter what they do.
The Court ruling in Hobby Lobby has established that companies have a right to practice their religion.
You're welcome.
Did that case rule there was an entitlement to receive a government contract when the organization desiring to be awarded the contract has indicated they will not fulfill the requirements of it?
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Organizations which are religious based can currently discriminate based on religion when hiring even if they receive federal funding.
Federal funding of religious institutions Secular Coalition for America
Not that big of a leap of logic to conclude that they could also discriminate as to who they serve.
The can discriminate in hiring only under the Ministerial Exception which means that the employee is a minister or has pastoral duties. And that applies whether they have a federal contract or not. A Church can refuse to hire an atheist as a minister of the gospel, a Church cannot refuse (under employment law) to Buddist for a Janitorial position.
All of that has nothing to do with what I said though.
There is no entitlement to be awarded a contract from the government (in this case a State government and not the Federal government) when the applicant for the contract has indicated in advance they will not comply with the terms under which the contract is due to be awarded.
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It's disgusting for these degenerates to trash a program like Catholic Charities and faith based adoption programs on the basis of a tiny demographic of mentally ill sexual fetishists being 'upset' over being denied one of their fashion accessories from that particular agency. This demographic is miniscule in numbers of children adopted anyway, and they don't have to go through Catholic Charities if they're so offended by Xians and the like; there are agencies with far lower standards and concern for children they can apply to and that are willing to hand over babies and children to mentally ill sexual fetishists for their personal amusement.
No surprise degenerates here are drooling over themselves at their success in this inane endeavor; sociopaths are obsessed with with their own narcissism and self-indulgence, and have no concerns whatsoever over the marginalization of a charity over 100 years old. Of course they have nothing to replace the object of their witless hatred and the services they provided.
Uh, given that the cult of LGBT has as its messiah one Harvey Milk, a man who was sodomizing his minor ward Jack Mckinley, along with many other "young waifs with substance abuse problems"...and that the cult of LGBT celebrate him for no other reason than his sexuality and that he was open about it while holding a public office... I'd say that what they're looking for at an adoption agency might quite likely be more than just a "fashion accessory"...
If they're proud of lewd sex acts in front of kids in their sober, organized parades in broad daylight, where they anticipate and hope children will be watching, we'd better start thinking what they'll be proud of behind closed doors too.
I'm well aware of how the media deliberately censors facts and news re pedoes and homosexuals' affinities for that degeneracy. I wouldn't say it's entirely about kiddie rapers, but certainly a relatively higher percentage of male homosexuals are into that than the general population, but many will just do it for the chuckles, and since stable relationships are few among an already tiny demographic and infantilized narcissism are what's behind most of this, they see adoption as merely a PR gimmick for pretending they're 'just like normal people', and as soon as the realities of raising children hits them after the fad wears off, most of these children will be dumped back into the system or ignored as a nuisance.
Their contributions will be almost nil compared to the general population in numbers of adoptions, and harassing these charities over this farce is unconscionable and damaging. It has nothing to do with the welfare of orphaned children and everything to do with identity politics and mindless self-indulgence.
The fact is that in the US they are replaceable and the Catholic Charities was smart enough to close the agencies and allow the other agencies to continue to handle the cases. You attempt to use children as a weapon.
How are the children being used as a weapon?The result is far fewer children available for adoption. If gay families MUST be satisfied the children will have to be taken from intact families. Mothers and fathers will just have to be declared unfit and their children taken from them to make the gay mafia happy.
Indeed, that is why the state should play fair towards the church, because they could easily be seen as showing favoritism towards gays, which can lead to a slippery slope where Child Protective Services starts to exaggerate circumstances or invent reasons to take children from heartbroken parents. This could easily become the perception or reality.
That's a lie.
The media isn't censoring gay pride parades! You can walk out on main street in your town and see them plain and clear doing lewd sex acts in front of kids. The police are watching this too. This is a real-life version of "The Emperor's New Clothes" [or lack of them]. What's funny and chilling at the same time about the metaphor is that the Emperor strutted down the center of town naked while everyone who saw plainly what was right in front of their faces cheered him on for his "beautiful new garments".
It is a religious thing where there is no choice. Same thing.
They are free to assist with adoptions based on their religious beliefs.
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Such as how?
Such as how what?
They function as a privately funded organization instead of a state funded organization.
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Such as how would they do that "based on their religious beliefs."
Ahhhhh - they function as a privately funded organization instead of a state funded organization.
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We need to actively engaged in stopping the grooming of children by heterosexuals for adoption.
The fact is that in the US they are replaceable and the Catholic Charities was smart enough to close the agencies and allow the other agencies to continue to handle the cases. You attempt to use children as a weapon.
How are the children being used as a weapon?
Homophobia has reached a level where children are being thrown.
Point well taken.They indeed censor them; no evening news stories have ever shown a Pride parade in it's entirety; they can't because of obscenity laws. It would great if those laws were suspended when it came to Pride parades, since that would kill much of the political support for the fetishists. The 'movement' would be dead in a month. Also news coverage of these wonderful and popular little homosexual festivals.
Point well taken.They indeed censor them; no evening news stories have ever shown a Pride parade in it's entirety; they can't because of obscenity laws. It would great if those laws were suspended when it came to Pride parades, since that would kill much of the political support for the fetishists. The 'movement' would be dead in a month. Also news coverage of these wonderful and popular little homosexual festivals.
Even here on USMB I cannot post one of the pictures of a pride parade because of obscenity laws. Yet being held down a public thoroughfare, children watching, the police standing by did nothing.
You're right. If Fox News showed clips of pride parades with illegal parts blurred with children looking on it would be game over. Not just for the LGBT cult Agenda but also the democratic party as a whole who the public sees as inseperable from the LGBT movement.
The only reason I can fathom that they haven't done that is because they're in bed with the LGBT agenda. That might be Cheney's daughter's influence. The lesbian.
Foreword
The California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT) published a special issue of their bi-monthly journal “The Therapist” dedicated to the subject of same-sex marriage. Guest authors were asked to contribute articles, half of the writers in support and half opposed to same-sex marriage. A stated goal of the issue was to determine whether the organization should adopt a formal position on the matter.
Subsequent to publication of the May/June 2009 special issue (Volume 21, Issue 3), homosexual activists within and without the organization pressured CAMFT to not only apologize, but also expunge from their organizational archives those articles that voiced opposition to same-sex marriage. CAMFT capitulated to those demands. The Director of CAMFT apologized for publishing articles critical of same-sex marriage and all the "offending" articles were censored from the CAMFT website archives. So much for intellectual debate and freedom of opinion.
It's disgusting for these degenerates to trash a program like Catholic Charities and faith based adoption programs on the basis of a tiny demographic of mentally ill sexual fetishists being 'upset' over being denied one of their fashion accessories from that particular agency. This demographic is miniscule in numbers of children adopted anyway, and they don't have to go through Catholic Charities if they're so offended by Xians and the like; there are agencies with far lower standards and concern for children they can apply to and that are willing to hand over babies and children to mentally ill sexual fetishists for their personal amusement.
No surprise degenerates here are drooling over themselves at their success in this inane endeavor; sociopaths are obsessed with with their own narcissism and self-indulgence, and have no concerns whatsoever over the marginalization of a charity over 100 years old. Of course they have nothing to replace the object of their witless hatred and the services they provided.
It's disgusting for these degenerates to trash a program like Catholic Charities and faith based adoption programs on the basis of a tiny demographic of mentally ill sexual fetishists being 'upset' over being denied one of their fashion accessories from that particular agency. This demographic is miniscule in numbers of children adopted anyway, and they don't have to go through Catholic Charities if they're so offended by Xians and the like; there are agencies with far lower standards and concern for children they can apply to and that are willing to hand over babies and children to mentally ill sexual fetishists for their personal amusement.
No surprise degenerates here are drooling over themselves at their success in this inane endeavor; sociopaths are obsessed with with their own narcissism and self-indulgence, and have no concerns whatsoever over the marginalization of a charity over 100 years old. Of course they have nothing to replace the object of their witless hatred and the services they provided.
Can you imagine what the gays next target will be?
