CDZ Should bump stocks be legal?

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    We do disagree

    I looked at video of the shooter in that hotel window last Sunday and thought....There is no reason a private citizen should have access to that much firepower

    You look at it as no big deal. Shit happens
     
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    I will weigh the past 100 plus years that semiautomatic rifles have been available to the public in my decisions.
    You will base your decisions on a single bad act.

    The million of people who own and who have owned semiautomatic rifles over the past century have proven that this weapon in the hands of the public poses less of a threat to human life than do fists, knives, hammers and many other instruments of murder.
     
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    How many deaths will it take before you change your mind
     
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    I'll never change my mind on this subject.

    You know why?

    People kill people
    People have killed people since there have been people
    People will kill people for as long as there are people on the earth.

    That is a fact as irrefutable gravity.
     
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    I'm changing my mind on this since news broke this morning that they found 3 jammed rifles in the apartment. I'm starting to think this gimmick could actually SHORTEN a mass shooting. He fired for about 3 minutes of the 9 minutes of the shooting and jammed or burnt up 3 rifles.

    This bump stock "gimmick" is NOT conversion to full auto. The rifle can't handle it with such a crude "feedback" device. And maybe jamming rifles of mass shooters stupid enough to use them is a GOOD thing. Because MOST mass shooters are not gonna have a ROOMFUL of weapons and accessories with them.
     
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    I don't expect you to

    You can watch video of a shooter raining down fire at high rates of speed on thousands of concert goers and think......

    Too bad for them
     
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    The fact that no law, gun ban or doodad ban would have stopped him doesn't matter to you at all does it?
     
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    He had 12 rifles

    He knew he had plenty and showed no attempt to reduce his fire rate or use short bursts to conserve his barrels. What did he care?
    He was never going to fire those guns again
     
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    How many mass shooters are gonna have 12 rifles? If they carried 1 -- they'd jam/burn it up in a minute. It's ALMOST a safety device for most people. Because the gun wasn't DESIGNED for this "gimmick".

    That said -- I don't think that gimmicks or toying with semi-auto weapons is a big enough hill to die on fighting gun-phobes.
     
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    He knew what arsenal he had and fired accordingly
    He was able to fire until the barrel burned out and then reach for another gun
    If he got down to his last two guns he would have started firing short bursts to save his last guns
    He never had to....he had plenty of firepower left

    Even if you have one rifle. A twelve second burst and a hundred round magazine is going to inflict tremendous carnage in a movie theater or classroom
     

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