Shooting in France....? But, they have gun control...right? At a Christmas Market?

[L.K.Eder]

The murder rate? You guys always fall back on that because you have to hide the truth that gun control doesn't work.....the murder rate depends on the willingness of the criminal to pull the trigger of their illegal gun to murder their victim. French criminals don't commit murder as often as criminals in the United States in democrat party controlled cities...it is culture, not access to guns that makes up the murder rate...since French criminals have access to guns, fully automatic military rifles....

Murder laws don’t stop all murder, but they do reduce it. Now what’s the murder rate in France

Gun control only works for the law abiding citizen....

France has strict gun laws. Why didn’t that save Charlie Hebdo victims?


How did the attackers get the guns?

Almost certainly illegally. Bloomberg reports that weapons designed for military use, such as the Kalashnikov AK series, have been illegally flooding France over the past few years, with state bodies recording double digit increases.

“The French black market for weapons has been inundated with eastern European war artillery and arms,” Philippe Capon, the head of UNSA police union, told Bloomberg. “They are everywhere in France.”

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The number of illegal guns is thought to be at least twice the number of legal guns in the country. Weapons such as AK-47s can be bought for the equivalent of a few thousand dollars.
3/10/18

Five things to know about guns in France

4. Millions of illegal weapons
France is awash with illegal weapons, with some experts saying that the number of illegal guns may be twice the number of legal ones.
Weapons such as Kalashnikovs, many of which were originally used in the Balkan wars in the 1990s, can be bought for less than 3,000 euros on the black market.
Kalashnikovs are the weapon of choice in deadly score-settling between rival drug gangs in the southern port city of Marseille.
The assault rifles were also the main weapon used in the radical Islamist terror attacks in France in recent years.
The worst single mass shooting took place in the Bataclan concert hall in Paris in November 2015, when gunmen sprayed concert-goers with bullets, killing 89 of them. Dozens more were killed in other attacks the same night in the French capital.
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What’s the murder rate

why does that matter?

Because if it is low, the gun control in France is fine

Wrong. If you can find an example of a law not preventing its breaking, then this law needs to be scrapped.

 

[2aguy]

The murder rate? You guys always fall back on that because you have to hide the truth that gun control doesn't work.....the murder rate depends on the willingness of the criminal to pull the trigger of their illegal gun to murder their victim. French criminals don't commit murder as often as criminals in the United States in democrat party controlled cities...it is culture, not access to guns that makes up the murder rate...since French criminals have access to guns, fully automatic military rifles....

Murder laws don’t stop all murder, but they do reduce it. Now what’s the murder rate in France

Gun control only works for the law abiding citizen....

France has strict gun laws. Why didn’t that save Charlie Hebdo victims?


How did the attackers get the guns?

Almost certainly illegally. Bloomberg reports that weapons designed for military use, such as the Kalashnikov AK series, have been illegally flooding France over the past few years, with state bodies recording double digit increases.

“The French black market for weapons has been inundated with eastern European war artillery and arms,” Philippe Capon, the head of UNSA police union, told Bloomberg. “They are everywhere in France.”

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The number of illegal guns is thought to be at least twice the number of legal guns in the country. Weapons such as AK-47s can be bought for the equivalent of a few thousand dollars.
3/10/18

Five things to know about guns in France

4. Millions of illegal weapons
France is awash with illegal weapons, with some experts saying that the number of illegal guns may be twice the number of legal ones.
Weapons such as Kalashnikovs, many of which were originally used in the Balkan wars in the 1990s, can be bought for less than 3,000 euros on the black market.
Kalashnikovs are the weapon of choice in deadly score-settling between rival drug gangs in the southern port city of Marseille.
The assault rifles were also the main weapon used in the radical Islamist terror attacks in France in recent years.
The worst single mass shooting took place in the Bataclan concert hall in Paris in November 2015, when gunmen sprayed concert-goers with bullets, killing 89 of them. Dozens more were killed in other attacks the same night in the French capital.
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What’s the murder rate

why does that matter?

Because if it is low, the gun control in France is fine

No.....that is a mistake in logic...... there are illegal guns in France. The criminals in France use them for their crimes. The criminals in France do not use them to commit murder as often as criminals in the U.S. do...gun control did not stop them from getting illegal guns, so gun control did not stop them from using their already acquired illegal guns to commit murder....

 

[BlackFlag]

Murder laws don’t stop all murder, but they do reduce it. Now what’s the murder rate in France

Gun control only works for the law abiding citizen....

France has strict gun laws. Why didn’t that save Charlie Hebdo victims?


How did the attackers get the guns?

Almost certainly illegally. Bloomberg reports that weapons designed for military use, such as the Kalashnikov AK series, have been illegally flooding France over the past few years, with state bodies recording double digit increases.

“The French black market for weapons has been inundated with eastern European war artillery and arms,” Philippe Capon, the head of UNSA police union, told Bloomberg. “They are everywhere in France.”

----

The number of illegal guns is thought to be at least twice the number of legal guns in the country. Weapons such as AK-47s can be bought for the equivalent of a few thousand dollars.
3/10/18

Five things to know about guns in France

4. Millions of illegal weapons
France is awash with illegal weapons, with some experts saying that the number of illegal guns may be twice the number of legal ones.
Weapons such as Kalashnikovs, many of which were originally used in the Balkan wars in the 1990s, can be bought for less than 3,000 euros on the black market.
Kalashnikovs are the weapon of choice in deadly score-settling between rival drug gangs in the southern port city of Marseille.
The assault rifles were also the main weapon used in the radical Islamist terror attacks in France in recent years.
The worst single mass shooting took place in the Bataclan concert hall in Paris in November 2015, when gunmen sprayed concert-goers with bullets, killing 89 of them. Dozens more were killed in other attacks the same night in the French capital.
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What’s the murder rate

why does that matter?

Because if it is low, the gun control in France is fine

No.....that is a mistake in logic...... there are illegal guns in France. The criminals in France use them for their crimes. The criminals in France do not use them to commit murder as often as criminals in the U.S. do...gun control did not stop them from getting illegal guns, so gun control did not stop them from using their already acquired illegal guns to commit murder....

Vat is de murder rate en France

 

[2aguy]

The guy is on the French governments, terrorist watch list...... he spent 10 minutes shooting at people.... before someone with a gun showed up to stop him...then he ran off and is still at large....in a country under special laws to prevent this sort of thing....

sure..gun control works...

Strasbourg gunman hunted after two killed

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It is quite comical to see 2A complian about others not letting a shooting go to waste when that’s his entire schtick on this forum. Such a ghoulish creature.

49 gays died and 50 others were shot, in Orlando, because Obama's FBI failed to stop the guy they had on their terrorist list. Amazing that liberals like MDK will still avoid the truth, even when it stares their right in their face...

The 751 No-Go Zones of France

Aug. 4, 2012 update: The French Interior Ministry has created a new type of no-go zone, called Zones de Sécurité Prioritaires (ZSP), or Priority Security Zones. The first batch contains 15 of them, basically the Muslim-majority regions of major cities like Lille, Paris, Strasbourg, Lyons, and Marseilles, as well as in French Guyana. Aug. 24, 2012 update: Soeren Kern explains these new zones in "France Seeks to Reclaim 'No-Go' Zones." Sep. 1, 2013 update: 80 ZSP now exist.

Viva la Allah...…*



* That was sarcasm but eventually if France doesn't stop the insanity of liberalism and islam, then that will be the French motto.

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I am well aware what occurred at Pulse, numbnuts. Please take your disingenuous concern for the gay community and shove it up your old ass.

Hey dude, I have a concern for every law abiding US citizen who shouldn't have to worry if some radical Muslim or Liberal decides to go postal on them. Shame you have a death wish by not only the risk of HIV but having some guy in a rag, shooting in the name of Allah, that is your choice, you deal with the consequences....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The guy is on the French governments, terrorist watch list...... he spent 10 minutes shooting at people.... before someone with a gun showed up to stop him...then he ran off and is still at large....in a country under special laws to prevent this sort of thing....

sure..gun control works...

Strasbourg gunman hunted after two killed

Did you know that the French Police are not allowed in the French No Go Zones?

 

[2aguy]

The guy is on the French governments, terrorist watch list...... he spent 10 minutes shooting at people.... before someone with a gun showed up to stop him...then he ran off and is still at large....in a country under special laws to prevent this sort of thing....

sure..gun control works...

Strasbourg gunman hunted after two killed

Did you know that the French Police are not allowed in the French No Go Zones?

Yep.....and soon Paris will just be one big, Shariah compliant city.....

 

[2aguy]

Now reporting 4 dead, 11 injured...by a shooter on the governments terrorist watch list....in a country under special anti-terrorism protocols and laws.....meant to stop a shooting like this...

BREAKING: Fatal Shooting Near Christmas Market in Strasbourg Now Considered Terror Attack

A statement by local French police says the shooter is from the notorious Neuhof neighborhood, a hub of Islamist radicalization and a known "no-go" zone.

It also states that he was categorized on their terror watch list as "fiche-S," meaning known to be a radicalized militant.

He even had grenades......are those legal in France?

Media reports indicate that the suspect avoided police that were serving an arrest warrant on him this morning, and that grenades were found at his home.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It is quite comical to see 2A complian about others not letting a shooting go to waste when that’s his entire schtick on this forum. Such a ghoulish creature.

I guess it is still funny how some of US on this board understand the threat that Islam is to the rest of the world. It will be quite comical watching, when MDK is thrown off the roof here in the US by ISIS, because idiots like you want them here..

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

My crystal ball says religion of peace.

----PUHLEEEEZE be patient

Not exactly going out on a limb.

The American Left would have you believe it is evangelical Christians.

 

[mdk]

It is quite comical to see 2A complian about others not letting a shooting go to waste when that’s his entire schtick on this forum. Such a ghoulish creature.

I guess it is still funny how some of US on this board understand the threat that Islam is to the rest of the world. It will be quite comical watching, when MDK is thrown off the roof here in the US by ISIS, because idiots like you want them here..

I'll remember that the next time I am in ISIS controlled territory. Your concern for well-being is touching. The gay community can rest easy knowing we have you as a champion.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Cherif Chekatt — an Islamist immigrant

imagine that

 

[Pilot1]

Cherif Chekatt — an Islamist immigrant

imagine that

I don't believe it. Never happened before. How'd he get a gun? They are illegal!

 

[jon_berzerk]

Cherif Chekatt — an Islamist immigrant

imagine that

I don't believe it. Never happened before. How'd he get a gun? They are illegal!

i was just reading the stats

in france the number of illegally held firearms

out ranks the legally held firearm by more then twice as much

could be higher this what the government guesses it to be

 

[jon_berzerk]

oh and btw the guy had four hand grenades ta boot

 

[jon_berzerk]

In France, civilians are not allowed to possess weapons of war, certain handguns and long guns, automatic firearms, firearms disguised as other objects, and armour-piercing, incendiary and expanding ammunition1

hymm odd wording showing up over here lately

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It is quite comical to see 2A complian about others not letting a shooting go to waste when that’s his entire schtick on this forum. Such a ghoulish creature.

I guess it is still funny how some of US on this board understand the threat that Islam is to the rest of the world. It will be quite comical watching, when MDK is thrown off the roof here in the US by ISIS, because idiots like you want them here..

I'll remember that the next time I am in ISIS controlled territory. Your concern for well-being is touching. The gay community can rest easy knowing we have you as a champion.

Dont go to Michigan.....

ISIS claims to have terrorists in US, including Michigan

 

[Aba Incieni]

This is just breaking...a shooting in France...I would wait to post about it, but sadly, the anti-gun extremists never let a mass shooting go to waste, so must be replied to whenever these things happen....

BREAKING: Shooting At Christmas Market In France

We have reports of a shooting at a Christmas market in France. The attack occurred in Strasbourg. It’s been described as a “serious security event.” One person is reported dead (via The Guardian):

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1 dead, at least 10 injured in shooting near Christmas market in Strasbourg, France

One person is dead and at least 10 injured in a shooting in the center of the French city of Strasbourg on the German border on Tuesday, according to a local fire department.

"Incident taking place. Please stay calm and await official communications," officials tweeted.



The shooting took place near Strasbourg's Christmas market, which attracts millions of tourists every year, a French security official told Reuters.
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"I was in the back of the restaurant when I heard gunshots. I think it was the sound of an automatic weapon.

What’s the murder rate in France

What does that have to do with the failure of their gun control laws? Fully automatic military weapons are the weapon of choice for French criminals.....their choice to murder with an already illegal gun is not controlled by French gun control laws..

What is the murder rate in France

Up by 2 today so far.

What’s the murder rate in France

See post #25.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

In France, civilians are not allowed to possess weapons of war, certain handguns and long guns, automatic firearms, firearms disguised as other objects, and armour-piercing, incendiary and expanding ammunition1

hymm odd wording showing up over here lately

lucky for the FRENCH that they have banned guns in that country, otherwise people might die.....Oh....yeah.....Still waiting for Box Trucks to be banned also.....

 

[Aba Incieni]

Cherif Chekatt — an Islamist immigrant

imagine that

My crystal ball was correct.