A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
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Shannyn Moore: My Guns Are Less Regulated Than My Uterus
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A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
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Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
What "coup"? You mean the Russian "coup" to get Trump elected president? On that I agree!
I'm old enough to remember when the NRA was invited into our schools to educate students on gun safety. Yes, I'm old, and I grew up in rural Alaska, but the NRA as an institution has changed as much as everything else has since then. It now operates as a lobby for gun manufacturers rather than for responsible gun owners who grew up with the traditions of hunting and shooting.
It has blamed everything from video games, to Hollywood to "gun-free zones" for escalating gun violence in the country. In 2010, the NRA held its convention in North Carolina in a location where guns were banned. Its cheery note to attendees told them to leave their guns at home. It seemed fine enough with a "gun-free zone" then. Charlotte Allen blames (the brutal mass murder in Newtown, Conn., last week on) a lack of men and the "over-feminization" of our school system. Autism and mental health have been blamed. A godless tolerance for homosexuals has been faulted. Several people have said God wouldn't show up in public schools where he's not wanted. Apparently, he's still smarting from the lack of audible prayer, so he allowed the shooting to happen.
One week after the massacre, the NRA, in a paranoid fit, proposed changes. Let's have more guns in schools! Armed guards have been present at many massacres and haven't been able to stop them. And who is supposed to pay for the wages and benefits for armed guards at every school in the nation? "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," says the NRA. It's a nice advertisement for gun sales but it's ludicrous. The bad guy in Tucson, Ariz., who shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was stopped because he was reloading. Should we have armed guards everywhere there has been a mass shooting? Schools, malls, theaters, grocery stores and churches? Are they proposing a jobs bill?
"If only those teachers had a gun," laments the NRA. At a time when teachers are blamed for far more than what is in their control, and for being "union thugs," you want them to carry a weapon? Seriously? Think about that for a minute. A company in Utah had profits jump 500 percent this week by selling BULLET-PROOF BACKPACKS FOR CHILDREN. Children should not be shouldering the panic. The best thing about little children is they haven't figured out yet that some people want to hurt them. Times have changed. If you're not a cynic by third grade, you're not paying attention.
I'm worried that again nothing will happen in the face of a great problem. The violence that destroyed so many lives in Newtown, Conn., has changed the discussion in this country on gun control, but will that be enough this time?
In Alaska, many of us need guns to fill our freezers, but if you need a 30-round clip you're a pretty poor hunter. If you are hoarding automatic (yes, they are legal) or semi-automatic weapons, you need Viagra.
Oh, that's right, it's about the "well-regulated militia." The Second Amendment was written by men who had fought alongside men who didn't survive their revolt against tyranny. They had the assistance of the French government. They used muskets. If you think it is your right or duty to overthrow the government at this point in time, you're going to need more than a few guns and monster clips. You'll need weapons-grade uranium, a few tanks, a submarine and an army of your own to go up against our 3 million strong military. You very well may need the aid of another country. Good luck with that, and I think your three-cornered hat may be on a little too tight. The same founders who thought a militia was a good idea would never have expanded gun ownership to blacks. The whole slavery situation could have gotten awkward quickly.
So the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of kindergarteners, mall shoppers and moviegoers? Is that freedom?
More: Shannyn Moore: My Guns Are Less Regulated Than My Uterus
What a laughable assertion. How many millions have been aborted?
false equivalency
2aguy
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Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
Because people like you believe that....we believe in the 2nd Amendment...
III%Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
What "coup"? You mean the Russian "coup" to get Trump elected president? On that I agree!
No the attempted coup by your hero the obummer to get his bitch hillary in. All engineered by comey and his sycophants.
2aguy
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Ever. There's nothing to debate.When do Republicans ever consider the time right to debate gun control? Ignoring it "disrespects the dead".
Kellyanne Conway Says Debating Gun Control Now Just ‘Disrespects The Dead’
seems like there's a lot to debate when most of the country wants one thing and congress does another
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
German school shootings that we know of....
Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Eppstein school shooting - Wikipedia
Erfurt school massacre - Wikipedia
Winnenden school shooting - Wikipedia
Ever. There's nothing to debate.When do Republicans ever consider the time right to debate gun control? Ignoring it "disrespects the dead".
Kellyanne Conway Says Debating Gun Control Now Just ‘Disrespects The Dead’
seems like there's a lot to debate when most of the country wants one thing and congress does another
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
ya... sure..
"America has six times as many firearm homicides as Canada, and nearly 16 times as many as Germany"
us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
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Wow, she's stupider than most of you.
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Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
What "coup"? You mean the Russian "coup" to get Trump elected president? On that I agree!
No the attempted coup by your hero the obummer to get his bitch hillary in. All engineered by comey and his sycophants.
Credible proof?
Ever. There's nothing to debate.
seems like there's a lot to debate when most of the country wants one thing and congress does another
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
German school shootings that we know of....
Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Eppstein school shooting - Wikipedia
Erfurt school massacre - Wikipedia
Winnenden school shooting - Wikipedia
that's nice.... again...
America has nearly 16 times as many gun homicides as Germany
us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
Ever. There's nothing to debate.
seems like there's a lot to debate when most of the country wants one thing and congress does another
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
ya... sure..
"America has six times as many firearm homicides as Canada, and nearly 16 times as many as Germany"
us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
yes, and we have more than 11 MILLION illegal immigrants (that we know of) who have all come here from violent third world country's, and they bring their violent cultures with them. In other words we have one THIRD of Canada's population as illegals. Talk about a false equivalency. How many third world illegals does Canada have?
seems like there's a lot to debate when most of the country wants one thing and congress does another
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
German school shootings that we know of....
Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Eppstein school shooting - Wikipedia
Erfurt school massacre - Wikipedia
Winnenden school shooting - Wikipedia
that's nice.... again...
America has nearly 16 times as many gun homicides as Germany
us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
Indeed yes. And that is rapidly changing as the violent refugees pour in the violent gun crime rate is skyrocketing. Thanks for pointing out that Germany has never had to deal with that issue till now. And just like us, the violent crime comes with them.
Only? Damn, you live in a bubble. I get it. Huffpo didn't provide talking points on this aspect of the topic. I understand why you have no fucking idea what you are babbling about.seems like there's a lot to debate when most of the country wants one thing and congress does anotherEver. There's nothing to debate.When do Republicans ever consider the time right to debate gun control? Ignoring it "disrespects the dead".
Kellyanne Conway Says Debating Gun Control Now Just ‘Disrespects The Dead’
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
What "coup"? You mean the Russian "coup" to get Trump elected president? On that I agree!
No the attempted coup by your hero the obummer to get his bitch hillary in. All engineered by comey and his sycophants.
Credible proof?
Yeah, the NEWS.
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Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
What "coup"? You mean the Russian "coup" to get Trump elected president? On that I agree!
No the attempted coup by your hero the obummer to get his bitch hillary in. All engineered by comey and his sycophants.
Credible proof?
Yeah, the NEWS.
Hannity, Breitbart, or Alex Jones?
Does anyone honestly believe the 2nd Amendment reflects today's reality? Seriously?
Confusion -- the wording of the Second Amendment
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
What "coup"? You mean the Russian "coup" to get Trump elected president? On that I agree!
No the attempted coup by your hero the obummer to get his bitch hillary in. All engineered by comey and his sycophants.
1. that would be PRESIDENT OBAMA.
2. the "bitch" wasn't a treasonous Russian shill like the orange sociopath in the White House.
3. the only thing comey engineered was the end of Hillary's campaign 10 days before the elevation.
you can't possibly believe the nonsense that just came off of your keyboard.
2aguy
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seems like there's a lot to debate when most of the country wants one thing and congress does another
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
German school shootings that we know of....
Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Eppstein school shooting - Wikipedia
Erfurt school massacre - Wikipedia
Winnenden school shooting - Wikipedia
that's nice.... again...
America has nearly 16 times as many gun homicides as Germany
us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
Their criminals have guns...they just don't use them to commit murder........dumb shit......if they can get fully automatic military rifles in France, they can get them and everything else in Germany too......
ESPECIALLY today. We just witnessed the attempted coup of a lawfully elected POTUS. EXACTLY the reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
What "coup"? You mean the Russian "coup" to get Trump elected president? On that I agree!
No the attempted coup by your hero the obummer to get his bitch hillary in. All engineered by comey and his sycophants.
Credible proof?
Yeah, the NEWS.
Hannity, Breitbart, or Alex Jones?
One from column A, two from column B
Most of the country is uninformed......and has no idea what they think about this issue.....they just "feel" a lot about what they are shown on television.....
that is a bunch of nonsense.......
we are the only "civilized" country where this happens.
you only know what the NRA tells you. but please, let's call that "informed".
A load of utter bullshit. Germany has had at least 5 school shootings that i know of. Guns are functionally outlawed for anyone who isn't rich. France has witnessed at least 7. Norway two, all with massive gun control laws.
German school shootings that we know of....
Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Eppstein school shooting - Wikipedia
Erfurt school massacre - Wikipedia
Winnenden school shooting - Wikipedia
that's nice.... again...
America has nearly 16 times as many gun homicides as Germany
us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
Their criminals have guns...they just don't use them to commit murder........dumb shit......if they can get fully automatic military rifles in France, they can get them and everything else in Germany too......
you really shouldn't call anyone else dumb, dearie.
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