Let's return the original meaning of the second amendment

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    We should return to the original meaning of the Second Amendment | OregonLive.com

     
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    We should let O decide. He knows what's best for us all.
     
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    My State Constitution regulates the State Milita and sets forth the manner in which I can keep and bear arms ?
     
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    Returning to the original meaning of the 2nd Amendment? Wouldn't that be refreshing considering that it now seems to have a meaning to the RW that it was never meant to have. I can say that without fear of contradiction because I hear conservatives say ALL the time that the second Amendment is and was meant to provide the citizens with the ability to protect themselves FROM the government? Really? That doesn't even make sense when you consider that the so-called 'well regulated Militia' is supposed to be regulated by (you guessed it) the government.

    Below is the 2nd Amendment.
    As passed by the Congress:
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
    The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to provide the people with the means to protect our gov't from aggression, either from foreigners or people who are attempting to overthrow our gov't. The 2nd Amendment is not meant to provide the wherewithal to overthrow the gov't.

    Someone should tell that to Rep Steve Stockman (R) TX.
     
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    What is the definition of Militia in your state?
     
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    'Militia' is mentioned four times in the original body of the Constitution.

    "To provide for calling for the Militia" - by using the work 'the' refers to an existing body, 'a' Militia would be something dynamically created, i.e. from the general population.​

    'the Army', 'the Militia'​

    The second amendment applies to 'the' Militia, no one else.
     
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    Is protecting one's home actually executing the Laws of the Union. Please don't try to argue that 'repel Invasions' refers to one's home.
     
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    SECTION 2. Militia.—
    (a) The militia shall be composed of all ablebodied inhabitants of the state who are or have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States; and no person because of religious creed or opinion shall be exempted from military duty except upon conditions provided by law.
     
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    You should read Heller v. DC. Your premise is not rooted in Constutional law.
     
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    The U.S. Congress has to prescribe the discipline of the training of the Militia. Wow, just one more thing our Congress has failed to do. They had better get right on that.
     

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