Serious Question. What makes a "fair tax" fair?

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    I'm genuinely curious - no one ever explained why a "fair tax" consumption tax is "fairer" than an income tax.

    Thoughts?
     
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    A consumption tax is not fair. Fair tax would be flat rate that everyone pays with a set threshold under which one pays no taxes.

    Get your terms right.
     
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    Guys, I'd really like you guys to start adding qualifiers to the statements you make.

    "A consumption tax is not fair." Why? Says who? How did you derive at that conclusion?

    Are you saying that a person or entity should be able to consume as much as they want and not have to pay the price for their consumption?

    I say no. Everything comes at a price. The price we pay for each individual owning a car in America is lower air quality aka more air pollution. More air pollution means more sickness, less health, which boils down to people spending more in health care costs and also experiencing a lower quality of life and earlier probability of death.

    Its a price. It should be paid for. Not only is it the right thing to do, its the fair thing to do.

    Please lay out your argument for why a "Fair Tax" would be fair other than it makes those who want to consume the most pay the least as a percentage of their consumption. Which is actually...very unfair.
     
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    The price we paid for riding horses was manure clogged streets and the attendant rampant diseases that caused.

    I'd like to introduce you to a little economic concept called the trade-off.
     
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    Umm Marc we are a consumer society. Consumers should be rewarded instead of punished?
    Well that is the current situation anyway, not the ideal one becuase much of our economy is based on excessive consumerism and waste.
    But until we change our economy is based on consumerism.

    Why is the "fair tax" proposal called the fair tax? A sales point, nothing more than that.
    Every time I have seen something coming out of politics and government give a good sounding name like "blue Skies" or something it is time to get out the vaseline and bend over.
     
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    My concept of a fair tax is a pure flat percentage tax on all income. Everyone pays exactly the same percentage on all income no decustions or loopholes.
    How much fairer than that can you get?
     
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    By reducing spending to the point that no direct tax is necessary.

    What a concept!
     
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    but only a pipe dream concept for the foreseeable future.
     
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    Right...Controlling spending is a pipe dream, but debating the merits of a silly new direct tax that doesn't have a snowball's chance of ever coming about is worthwhile. :lol:
     
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    Umm this was about tax not spending.

    Yep cut spending to the point you speak of and watch the USA fall into the dark ages.
    My flat tax idea would not cause that problem.

    Not that my flat tax idea has a chance of being implemented. It would remove too much power from congress/lobbyists.
    but it would work if implemented.
     
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