Screw "Tax The Poor" Capitalism.

[Dale Smith]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

Taxes on our labor isn't "civilized" and I am going to "school" you about the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of USA.INC via 1933 and 1950, what you refer to as your believed "gubermint".........I am gonna knock your ass so far out of the park that you will have to buy a ticket to get back in......make sure you chime back on this thread later today......I'm gonna lay some "truth bombs" on ya......

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

Yes the rich need tax cats. Ask them if they want to keep more of the money they earn.its suppose to be free country it's their choice because it's their money it's their private property it's not your choice to steal from them out of jealousy, to make up for your own inability to earn money and your interest in collecting welfare. The more people the rich put on welfare with their tax dollars and more crippled people you have his big mouth I can't support themselves except throuugh stealing from others this is a formula for national decay. Our founders came here to be free not to steal from others in order to make a living.

Free? LMAOROG

You should Google Geo Washington and your TeaT*rd ancestors during the whiskey rebellion.

HINT GOV'T (WE) DECIDE WHAT WE DO AS A NATION AND UNTIL THE GOPers DECIDED TO "STARVE THE BEAST" TO BENEFIT THE "JOB CREATOR" CLASS AS THEY'VE OFF SHORED JOBS AND LOWERED THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE "BURDENS" ON MUCH LARGER SHARE OF THE PIE UNDER GOP "TRICKLE DOWN" BS, WE USED TO DO PRETTY WELL. Thanks Ronnie

The government is not supposed to redistribute money this is supposed to be in a free country

 

[Wyatt earp]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

So all the trillions of dollars we spent since the 1960s how come we only ended up with this ?

 

[Spare_change]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

Yes the rich need tax cats. Ask them if they want to keep more of the money they earn.its suppose to be free country it's their choice because it's their money it's their private property it's not your choice to steal from them out of jealousy, to make up for your own inability to earn money and your interest in collecting welfare. The more people the rich put on welfare with their tax dollars and more crippled people you have his big mouth I can't support themselves except throuugh stealing from others this is a formula for national decay. Our founders came here to be free not to steal from others in order to make a living.

Free? LMAOROG

You should Google Geo Washington and your TeaT*rd ancestors during the whiskey rebellion.

HINT GOV'T (WE) DECIDE WHAT WE DO AS A NATION AND UNTIL THE GOPers DECIDED TO "STARVE THE BEAST" TO BENEFIT THE "JOB CREATOR" CLASS AS THEY'VE OFF SHORED JOBS AND LOWERED THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE "BURDENS" ON MUCH LARGER SHARE OF THE PIE UNDER GOP "TRICKLE DOWN" BS, WE USED TO DO PRETTY WELL. Thanks Ronnie

"... redistribution of income ... "

Interesting phrase for allowing them to keep more of the money they earned.

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

Taxes on our labor isn't "civilized" and I am going to "school" you about the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of USA.INC via 1933 and 1950, what you refer to as your believed "gubermint".........I am gonna knock your ass so far out of the park that you will have to buy a ticket to get back in......make sure you chime back on this thread later today......I'm gonna lay some "truth bombs" on ya......

Labor huh? lol



I'll wait for your BS interpretation on the Chapter 11 nonsense!

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

Yes the rich need tax cats. Ask them if they want to keep more of the money they earn.its suppose to be free country it's their choice because it's their money it's their private property it's not your choice to steal from them out of jealousy, to make up for your own inability to earn money and your interest in collecting welfare. The more people the rich put on welfare with their tax dollars and more crippled people you have his big mouth I can't support themselves except throuugh stealing from others this is a formula for national decay. Our founders came here to be free not to steal from others in order to make a living.

Free? LMAOROG

You should Google Geo Washington and your TeaT*rd ancestors during the whiskey rebellion.

HINT GOV'T (WE) DECIDE WHAT WE DO AS A NATION AND UNTIL THE GOPers DECIDED TO "STARVE THE BEAST" TO BENEFIT THE "JOB CREATOR" CLASS AS THEY'VE OFF SHORED JOBS AND LOWERED THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE "BURDENS" ON MUCH LARGER SHARE OF THE PIE UNDER GOP "TRICKLE DOWN" BS, WE USED TO DO PRETTY WELL. Thanks Ronnie

The government is not supposed to redistribute money this is supposed to be in a free country

Gawd you are STILL dumb as a rock, EVERY tax is redistribution Bubs

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

So all the trillions of dollars we spent since the 1960s how come we only ended up with this ?

View attachment 127019

Trillions we've spent on wars, why are there still wars?

Trillions given in tax breaks to "job creators" who off shore US jobs AND gut employees? Why?

But yes the rights war on the war on poverty HAS worked out well for the "job creator" class!


US super-rich get five times more income than in 1995

Meanwhile, the effective tax rate on this group—the amount actually paid in taxes—fell to 16.6 percent, the lowest figure on IRS records dating to 1992.

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

Yes the rich need tax cats. Ask them if they want to keep more of the money they earn.its suppose to be free country it's their choice because it's their money it's their private property it's not your choice to steal from them out of jealousy, to make up for your own inability to earn money and your interest in collecting welfare. The more people the rich put on welfare with their tax dollars and more crippled people you have his big mouth I can't support themselves except throuugh stealing from others this is a formula for national decay. Our founders came here to be free not to steal from others in order to make a living.

Free? LMAOROG

You should Google Geo Washington and your TeaT*rd ancestors during the whiskey rebellion.

HINT GOV'T (WE) DECIDE WHAT WE DO AS A NATION AND UNTIL THE GOPers DECIDED TO "STARVE THE BEAST" TO BENEFIT THE "JOB CREATOR" CLASS AS THEY'VE OFF SHORED JOBS AND LOWERED THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE "BURDENS" ON MUCH LARGER SHARE OF THE PIE UNDER GOP "TRICKLE DOWN" BS, WE USED TO DO PRETTY WELL. Thanks Ronnie

"... redistribution of income ... "

Interesting phrase for allowing them to keep more of the money they earned.

You do understand Gov't needs to be funded right? And since Ronnie Reagan, the "job creator" class has been able to shift the burden to the middle class?

Hint ANY tax is redistribution! Earned? NO ONE EARNED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS!

 

[Wyatt earp]

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

So all the trillions of dollars we spent since the 1960s how come we only ended up with this ?

View attachment 127019

Trillions we've spent on wars, why are there still wars?

Trillions given in tax breaks to "job creators" who off shore US jobs AND gut employees? Why?

But yes the rights war on the war on poverty HAS worked out well for the "job creator" class!


US super-rich get five times more income than in 1995

Meanwhile, the effective tax rate on this group—the amount actually paid in taxes—fell to 16.6 percent, the lowest figure on IRS records dating to 1992.

The world caught up in the 1980s after WWII they had no choice, either that or NO JOBS..



And why did your Messiah just copy bush Jr and make like over 85% of the tax cuts permeant ? The left has no ideas except trickle up poor


.

 

[JonKoch]

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

So all the trillions of dollars we spent since the 1960s how come we only ended up with this ?

View attachment 127019

Trillions we've spent on wars, why are there still wars?

Trillions given in tax breaks to "job creators" who off shore US jobs AND gut employees? Why?

But yes the rights war on the war on poverty HAS worked out well for the "job creator" class!


US super-rich get five times more income than in 1995

Meanwhile, the effective tax rate on this group—the amount actually paid in taxes—fell to 16.6 percent, the lowest figure on IRS records dating to 1992.

The world caught up in the 1980s after WWII they had no choice, either that or NO JOBS..



And why did your Messiah just copy bush Jr and make like over 85% of the tax cuts permeant ? The left has no ideas except trickle up poor


.

Gawd you wing nutters are DUMB. Seriously trying to say we NEEDED to GUT taxes on the "job creators" otherwise capitalism wouldn't create jobs? LMAOROG

Yeah, I guess over the past 36 years your side has been correct, Ronnie said cut taxes on the "job creators" and the jobs would flow from the sky, gutting the top rate from 70% to 50% and the unemployment rate went up to 10.8% a post WW2 high, it took 28 months to get below 8%, lol



Dubya and GOP "job creator" policies lost 1+ million private sector jobs in 8 years

BJ BILL INCREASED TAXES AND CREATED 22+ MILLION JOBS? WHAT????



You mean when the GOP blackmailed Obama at Christmas time of 2010 of dumping people off of unemployment UNLESS he left Dubya's "trickle down" BS in place for everyone under $400,0000 a year?


CONservative economic policy NEVER works as promised, weird soooooo many right wingers don't understand how an economy works (DEMAND)...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
And pays 729 times as much tax. Bastard!
DERP

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You need to cut taxes for a capitalist society to thrive. Only in a socialist society would higher taxes allow the society to be "well off" like in Canada. The problem isn't "the government can't afford to cut taxes," no, the problem is the government (either federal, local, or both) wastes money on stupid programs like Planned Parenthood and welfare, exporting it overseas to other countries, and throwing stupid events to celebrate a minor event which is also used with taxpayer money. Last year my state politicians threw a party to celebrate the opening of a taxpayer funded amphitheater... What did they do after that? Throw a party as a celebration, also with taxpayer money instead of just using money from their own salaries (also funded by taxpayers) to do it. Do you see where I'm getting at? Why are the politicians throwing a party with taxpayer money that can be saved or used somewhere important? Did they ask if they could use our money to pay for a party?

Also, there's the issue that companies keep money overseas because they don't want to pay the high import tax to bring it in. So the government would rather get 0% of those trillions of dollars rather than 10-15% of it. Makes sense right?

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

"The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare"

LOL

Hint, we spend MUCH more on Corp welfare than people welfare in the US, Your right wing meme is stale


REMEMBER CLINTON JOINED WITH THE GOP ON "WELFARE REFORM" IN 1996 PUTTING A 5 YEAR LIFETIME LIMIT ON IT??? THEY ALSO LIMITED FEDERAL WELFARE MONEY TO THE SAME AMOUNT EACH YEAR THAT HAS NEVER INCREASED, LESS THAN $20 BILLION A YEAR

Most families in poverty don't receive welfare
Poverty is higher than in 1996

How welfare reform changed American poverty, in 9 charts


THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya) who blew up spending AS they decreased revenues and GREATLY decreased the EFFECTIVE tax rates on the "job creators"

THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya)

Ignore the black fella who added $9.3 trillion, eh?

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
And pays 729 times as much tax. Bastard!
DERP

So NOT very progressive.


ALMOST LIKE THERE IS A PLAN TO GUT TAXES ON THOSE "JOB CREATORS" AS DEBT BALLOONED

 

[JonKoch]

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

"The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare"

LOL

Hint, we spend MUCH more on Corp welfare than people welfare in the US, Your right wing meme is stale


REMEMBER CLINTON JOINED WITH THE GOP ON "WELFARE REFORM" IN 1996 PUTTING A 5 YEAR LIFETIME LIMIT ON IT??? THEY ALSO LIMITED FEDERAL WELFARE MONEY TO THE SAME AMOUNT EACH YEAR THAT HAS NEVER INCREASED, LESS THAN $20 BILLION A YEAR

Most families in poverty don't receive welfare
Poverty is higher than in 1996

How welfare reform changed American poverty, in 9 charts


THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya) who blew up spending AS they decreased revenues and GREATLY decreased the EFFECTIVE tax rates on the "job creators"

THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya)

Ignore the black fella who added $9.3 trillion, eh?

Care to name the policies the black guy passed that created that debt Bubs? Oops

FEBRUARY 28, 2013

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits

 

[Hossfly]

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

"The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare"

LOL

Hint, we spend MUCH more on Corp welfare than people welfare in the US, Your right wing meme is stale


REMEMBER CLINTON JOINED WITH THE GOP ON "WELFARE REFORM" IN 1996 PUTTING A 5 YEAR LIFETIME LIMIT ON IT??? THEY ALSO LIMITED FEDERAL WELFARE MONEY TO THE SAME AMOUNT EACH YEAR THAT HAS NEVER INCREASED, LESS THAN $20 BILLION A YEAR

Most families in poverty don't receive welfare
Poverty is higher than in 1996

How welfare reform changed American poverty, in 9 charts


THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya) who blew up spending AS they decreased revenues and GREATLY decreased the EFFECTIVE tax rates on the "job creators"

THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya)

Ignore the black fella who added $9.3 trillion, eh?

Toddster, you're arguing with a bleeping genius!

 

[danielpalos]

Trump, as I expected, is talking giving companies tax breaks to create jobs here. Well if you give them tax breaks, then guess who pays the taxes. The Poor! Slavery in action. The more that things change, the more they stay the same.

Here is the way things work in the U.S. Capitalism-Corporations = Society = Government = AMERICA! We are "supposed" to live in a democracy. But the business world rules your lives. How many people in business did you vote for. Do you vote for business or government. People in business who aren't elected shouldn't be directing how people live. That is the government's job.

I say to hell with bribing companies with tax breaks or outright corporate welfare to create jobs. If the private sector can't create jobs, I say that the government should just cut away that that dead weight and start doing the job themselves. Also, want to see something interesting? Go to the internet and look up any year in the last 50 years and see the number of companies in whatever year paid no taxes at all.

I make a motion to end the labor cost tax preference, for foreign labor employed by US Firms. Only US labor should qualify US Firms for a tax preference.

 

[Spare_change]

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

Yes the rich need tax cats. Ask them if they want to keep more of the money they earn.its suppose to be free country it's their choice because it's their money it's their private property it's not your choice to steal from them out of jealousy, to make up for your own inability to earn money and your interest in collecting welfare. The more people the rich put on welfare with their tax dollars and more crippled people you have his big mouth I can't support themselves except throuugh stealing from others this is a formula for national decay. Our founders came here to be free not to steal from others in order to make a living.

Free? LMAOROG

You should Google Geo Washington and your TeaT*rd ancestors during the whiskey rebellion.

HINT GOV'T (WE) DECIDE WHAT WE DO AS A NATION AND UNTIL THE GOPers DECIDED TO "STARVE THE BEAST" TO BENEFIT THE "JOB CREATOR" CLASS AS THEY'VE OFF SHORED JOBS AND LOWERED THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE "BURDENS" ON MUCH LARGER SHARE OF THE PIE UNDER GOP "TRICKLE DOWN" BS, WE USED TO DO PRETTY WELL. Thanks Ronnie

"... redistribution of income ... "

Interesting phrase for allowing them to keep more of the money they earned.

You do understand Gov't needs to be funded right? And since Ronnie Reagan, the "job creator" class has been able to shift the burden to the middle class?

Hint ANY tax is redistribution! Earned? NO ONE EARNED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS!

1) A broad statement like "... Gov't needs to be funded.." is clearly indicative of your penchant to acquiesce to the rulers, rather than take a position of healthy skepticism. They need to be funded to perform "essential" responsibilities, but not to subsume control of your life in all its facets. The government's encroachment into our lives, in its unceasing effort to control the people, is noting more, and nothing less, than a power grab designed to turn you into a pawn for their amusement.

2) Your accusation of "shift[ing] the burden to the middle class" is, simply, political doublespeak. Are you trying to say that the top 10% is paying LESS now than they did in the 80s? Are you saying their percentage of contribution to government coffers is LESS now than in the 80s? Are you saying that MORE people are 'being forced" to contribute to government maintenance?

3) If you actually bother to read the post, the meme says "... excessive tax cuts for the rich as what they are ... a simple upward redistribution of income" ...

The first question - how does failing to take money from someone constitute a "redistribution of income" since it was their income in the first place? How can you be redistributing something that doesn't belong to you?

The second question - the crux of the statement clearly reveals the mistaken belief that some portion of the money earned by the rich is, inherently, the property of somebody else. When did this happen? When did you come to believe that you, somehow, had right of ownership of another person's property?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
And pays 729 times as much tax. Bastard!
DERP

So NOT very progressive.


ALMOST LIKE THERE IS A PLAN TO GUT TAXES ON THOSE "JOB CREATORS" AS DEBT BALLOONED

So NOT very progressive.

Very sad.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

"The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare"

LOL

Hint, we spend MUCH more on Corp welfare than people welfare in the US, Your right wing meme is stale


REMEMBER CLINTON JOINED WITH THE GOP ON "WELFARE REFORM" IN 1996 PUTTING A 5 YEAR LIFETIME LIMIT ON IT??? THEY ALSO LIMITED FEDERAL WELFARE MONEY TO THE SAME AMOUNT EACH YEAR THAT HAS NEVER INCREASED, LESS THAN $20 BILLION A YEAR

Most families in poverty don't receive welfare
Poverty is higher than in 1996

How welfare reform changed American poverty, in 9 charts


THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya) who blew up spending AS they decreased revenues and GREATLY decreased the EFFECTIVE tax rates on the "job creators"

THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya)

Ignore the black fella who added $9.3 trillion, eh?

Care to name the policies the black guy passed that created that debt Bubs? Oops

FEBRUARY 28, 2013

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits

Care to name the policies the black guy passed that created that debt Bubs?

Transfer payments are $1 trillion a year higher than before the crisis.
Are you saying that poor black fella was powerless to make any changes during his 8 years?
He has zero responsibility for the $9.3 trillion addition to the debt?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump, as I expected, is talking giving companies tax breaks to create jobs here. Well if you give them tax breaks, then guess who pays the taxes. The Poor! Slavery in action. The more that things change, the more they stay the same.

Here is the way things work in the U.S. Capitalism-Corporations = Society = Government = AMERICA! We are "supposed" to live in a democracy. But the business world rules your lives. How many people in business did you vote for. Do you vote for business or government. People in business who aren't elected shouldn't be directing how people live. That is the government's job.

I say to hell with bribing companies with tax breaks or outright corporate welfare to create jobs. If the private sector can't create jobs, I say that the government should just cut away that that dead weight and start doing the job themselves. Also, want to see something interesting? Go to the internet and look up any year in the last 50 years and see the number of companies in whatever year paid no taxes at all.

I make a motion to end the labor cost tax preference, for foreign labor employed by US Firms. Only US labor should qualify US Firms for a tax preference.

I make a motion to end the labor cost tax preference, for foreign labor employed by US Firms.

US firms can't deduct foreign salary for foreign workers in a foreign land.

Great job!