Screw "Tax The Poor" Capitalism.

[Slashsnake]

Trump, as I expected, is talking giving companies tax breaks to create jobs here. Well if you give them tax breaks, then guess who pays the taxes. The Poor! Slavery in action. The more that things change, the more they stay the same.

Here is the way things work in the U.S. Capitalism-Corporations = Society = Government = AMERICA! We are "supposed" to live in a democracy. But the business world rules your lives. How many people in business did you vote for. Do you vote for business or government. People in business who aren't elected shouldn't be directing how people live. That is the government's job.

I say to hell with bribing companies with tax breaks or outright corporate welfare to create jobs. If the private sector can't create jobs, I say that the government should just cut away that that dead weight and start doing the job themselves. Also, want to see something interesting? Go to the internet and look up any year in the last 50 years and see the number of companies in whatever year paid no taxes at all.

The standard liberal approach.

"If you're cutting taxes, you are just trying to screw the poor."
"If you're cutting taxes, you are just giving tax breaks to rich people."
"Wahhh -wahhh - wahhh!!"

Not once did you see anything in this rant about increased tax revenue by stimulating the economy thru tax cuts. No discussion about jobs created as the result of released capital for investment.

Not once in this rant did you see anything about cutting spending commensurate with tax cuts. The idea that government services might be cut is anathema to the left. They are incapable of believing that nanny government is expensive and unnecessary. They do not comprehend people being responsible for themselves.

In short .... s.o.b.s.

Well let me give you the non-standard liberal approach by a left-leaner.

I'm a big fan of tax breaks...if the government can afford to. Seeing the size of our budget deficit, we do not have room to afford to cut taxes. Additionally, I'm also a fan of reducing the amount of our government spending...specifically our entitlement programs, which, last I heard, made up ~50% of government spending.

You need to cut taxes for a capitalist society to thrive. Only in a socialist society would higher taxes allow the society to be "well off" like in Canada. The problem isn't "the government can't afford to cut taxes," no, the problem is the government (either federal, local, or both) wastes money on stupid programs like Planned Parenthood and welfare, exporting it overseas to other countries, and throwing stupid events to celebrate a minor event which is also used with taxpayer money. Last year my state politicians threw a party to celebrate the opening of a taxpayer funded amphitheater... What did they do after that? Throw a party as a celebration, also with taxpayer money instead of just using money from their own salaries (also funded by taxpayers) to do it. Do you see where I'm getting at? Why are the politicians throwing a party with taxpayer money that can be saved or used somewhere important? Did they ask if they could use our money to pay for a party?

Also, there's the issue that companies keep money overseas because they don't want to pay the high import tax to bring it in. So the government would rather get 0% of those trillions of dollars rather than 10-15% of it. Makes sense right?

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

 

[Never3ndr]

Trump, as I expected, is talking giving companies tax breaks to create jobs here. Well if you give them tax breaks, then guess who pays the taxes. The Poor! Slavery in action. The more that things change, the more they stay the same.

Here is the way things work in the U.S. Capitalism-Corporations = Society = Government = AMERICA! We are "supposed" to live in a democracy. But the business world rules your lives. How many people in business did you vote for. Do you vote for business or government. People in business who aren't elected shouldn't be directing how people live. That is the government's job.

I say to hell with bribing companies with tax breaks or outright corporate welfare to create jobs. If the private sector can't create jobs, I say that the government should just cut away that that dead weight and start doing the job themselves. Also, want to see something interesting? Go to the internet and look up any year in the last 50 years and see the number of companies in whatever year paid no taxes at all.

The standard liberal approach.

"If you're cutting taxes, you are just trying to screw the poor."
"If you're cutting taxes, you are just giving tax breaks to rich people."
"Wahhh -wahhh - wahhh!!"

Not once did you see anything in this rant about increased tax revenue by stimulating the economy thru tax cuts. No discussion about jobs created as the result of released capital for investment.

Not once in this rant did you see anything about cutting spending commensurate with tax cuts. The idea that government services might be cut is anathema to the left. They are incapable of believing that nanny government is expensive and unnecessary. They do not comprehend people being responsible for themselves.

In short .... s.o.b.s.

Well let me give you the non-standard liberal approach by a left-leaner.

I'm a big fan of tax breaks...if the government can afford to. Seeing the size of our budget deficit, we do not have room to afford to cut taxes. Additionally, I'm also a fan of reducing the amount of our government spending...specifically our entitlement programs, which, last I heard, made up ~50% of government spending.

You need to cut taxes for a capitalist society to thrive. Only in a socialist society would higher taxes allow the society to be "well off" like in Canada. The problem isn't "the government can't afford to cut taxes," no, the problem is the government (either federal, local, or both) wastes money on stupid programs like Planned Parenthood and welfare, exporting it overseas to other countries, and throwing stupid events to celebrate a minor event which is also used with taxpayer money. Last year my state politicians threw a party to celebrate the opening of a taxpayer funded amphitheater... What did they do after that? Throw a party as a celebration, also with taxpayer money instead of just using money from their own salaries (also funded by taxpayers) to do it. Do you see where I'm getting at? Why are the politicians throwing a party with taxpayer money that can be saved or used somewhere important? Did they ask if they could use our money to pay for a party?

Also, there's the issue that companies keep money overseas because they don't want to pay the high import tax to bring it in. So the government would rather get 0% of those trillions of dollars rather than 10-15% of it. Makes sense right?

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

 

[Slashsnake]

The standard liberal approach.

"If you're cutting taxes, you are just trying to screw the poor."
"If you're cutting taxes, you are just giving tax breaks to rich people."
"Wahhh -wahhh - wahhh!!"

Not once did you see anything in this rant about increased tax revenue by stimulating the economy thru tax cuts. No discussion about jobs created as the result of released capital for investment.

Not once in this rant did you see anything about cutting spending commensurate with tax cuts. The idea that government services might be cut is anathema to the left. They are incapable of believing that nanny government is expensive and unnecessary. They do not comprehend people being responsible for themselves.

In short .... s.o.b.s.

Well let me give you the non-standard liberal approach by a left-leaner.

I'm a big fan of tax breaks...if the government can afford to. Seeing the size of our budget deficit, we do not have room to afford to cut taxes. Additionally, I'm also a fan of reducing the amount of our government spending...specifically our entitlement programs, which, last I heard, made up ~50% of government spending.

You need to cut taxes for a capitalist society to thrive. Only in a socialist society would higher taxes allow the society to be "well off" like in Canada. The problem isn't "the government can't afford to cut taxes," no, the problem is the government (either federal, local, or both) wastes money on stupid programs like Planned Parenthood and welfare, exporting it overseas to other countries, and throwing stupid events to celebrate a minor event which is also used with taxpayer money. Last year my state politicians threw a party to celebrate the opening of a taxpayer funded amphitheater... What did they do after that? Throw a party as a celebration, also with taxpayer money instead of just using money from their own salaries (also funded by taxpayers) to do it. Do you see where I'm getting at? Why are the politicians throwing a party with taxpayer money that can be saved or used somewhere important? Did they ask if they could use our money to pay for a party?

Also, there's the issue that companies keep money overseas because they don't want to pay the high import tax to bring it in. So the government would rather get 0% of those trillions of dollars rather than 10-15% of it. Makes sense right?

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

 

[Spare_change]

Trump, as I expected, is talking giving companies tax breaks to create jobs here. Well if you give them tax breaks, then guess who pays the taxes. The Poor! Slavery in action. The more that things change, the more they stay the same.

Here is the way things work in the U.S. Capitalism-Corporations = Society = Government = AMERICA! We are "supposed" to live in a democracy. But the business world rules your lives. How many people in business did you vote for. Do you vote for business or government. People in business who aren't elected shouldn't be directing how people live. That is the government's job.

I say to hell with bribing companies with tax breaks or outright corporate welfare to create jobs. If the private sector can't create jobs, I say that the government should just cut away that that dead weight and start doing the job themselves. Also, want to see something interesting? Go to the internet and look up any year in the last 50 years and see the number of companies in whatever year paid no taxes at all.

The standard liberal approach.

"If you're cutting taxes, you are just trying to screw the poor."
"If you're cutting taxes, you are just giving tax breaks to rich people."
"Wahhh -wahhh - wahhh!!"

Not once did you see anything in this rant about increased tax revenue by stimulating the economy thru tax cuts. No discussion about jobs created as the result of released capital for investment.

Not once in this rant did you see anything about cutting spending commensurate with tax cuts. The idea that government services might be cut is anathema to the left. They are incapable of believing that nanny government is expensive and unnecessary. They do not comprehend people being responsible for themselves.

In short .... s.o.b.s.

Well let me give you the non-standard liberal approach by a left-leaner.

I'm a big fan of tax breaks...if the government can afford to. Seeing the size of our budget deficit, we do not have room to afford to cut taxes. Additionally, I'm also a fan of reducing the amount of our government spending...specifically our entitlement programs, which, last I heard, made up ~50% of government spending.

I wouldn't walk unescorted down liberal alley if I were you .... you could be mistaken for a (gasp) conservative. Cut spending FIRST? They'll hang you!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

yes!!! and when Newt and Clinton ended "welfare as we know it" by making it workfare fully half decided they were not poor enough to work!!

 

[Never3ndr]

Well let me give you the non-standard liberal approach by a left-leaner.

I'm a big fan of tax breaks...if the government can afford to. Seeing the size of our budget deficit, we do not have room to afford to cut taxes. Additionally, I'm also a fan of reducing the amount of our government spending...specifically our entitlement programs, which, last I heard, made up ~50% of government spending.

You need to cut taxes for a capitalist society to thrive. Only in a socialist society would higher taxes allow the society to be "well off" like in Canada. The problem isn't "the government can't afford to cut taxes," no, the problem is the government (either federal, local, or both) wastes money on stupid programs like Planned Parenthood and welfare, exporting it overseas to other countries, and throwing stupid events to celebrate a minor event which is also used with taxpayer money. Last year my state politicians threw a party to celebrate the opening of a taxpayer funded amphitheater... What did they do after that? Throw a party as a celebration, also with taxpayer money instead of just using money from their own salaries (also funded by taxpayers) to do it. Do you see where I'm getting at? Why are the politicians throwing a party with taxpayer money that can be saved or used somewhere important? Did they ask if they could use our money to pay for a party?

Also, there's the issue that companies keep money overseas because they don't want to pay the high import tax to bring it in. So the government would rather get 0% of those trillions of dollars rather than 10-15% of it. Makes sense right?

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

I'm guessing you don't know what welfare is commonly defined as. I mentioned entitlements, which seem to be what you are mentioning (since you said $2 trillion) was what I think are a major issue...these include things like medicare / medicaid and social security. I mistook you for meaning welfare as in assisted living programs (like food stamps) which are a relatively minor portion of our budget in comparison.

So, I agree, that we need to cut down on or may just do away with these entitlement programs like social security.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/budgetinfographic.pdf

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So, I agree, that we need to cut down on or may just do away with these entitlement programs like social security.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/budgetinfographic.pdf

or privatize it since we don't want to let the elderly starve to death.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

 

[eagle1462010]

Business passes the costs on to the consumer.............so you pay them anyway...........Strong countries have a large middle class...........They ultimately circulate the money that stirs the hell out of the economy. Which is why tax breaks for jobs returning to America is a good thing.

Play to the Class Warfare........even if you when at it........you still pay that money when you buy their products.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

You want to screw trickle down capitalism and replace it with trickle down welfare?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

 

[JonKoch]

Well let me give you the non-standard liberal approach by a left-leaner.

I'm a big fan of tax breaks...if the government can afford to. Seeing the size of our budget deficit, we do not have room to afford to cut taxes. Additionally, I'm also a fan of reducing the amount of our government spending...specifically our entitlement programs, which, last I heard, made up ~50% of government spending.

You need to cut taxes for a capitalist society to thrive. Only in a socialist society would higher taxes allow the society to be "well off" like in Canada. The problem isn't "the government can't afford to cut taxes," no, the problem is the government (either federal, local, or both) wastes money on stupid programs like Planned Parenthood and welfare, exporting it overseas to other countries, and throwing stupid events to celebrate a minor event which is also used with taxpayer money. Last year my state politicians threw a party to celebrate the opening of a taxpayer funded amphitheater... What did they do after that? Throw a party as a celebration, also with taxpayer money instead of just using money from their own salaries (also funded by taxpayers) to do it. Do you see where I'm getting at? Why are the politicians throwing a party with taxpayer money that can be saved or used somewhere important? Did they ask if they could use our money to pay for a party?

Also, there's the issue that companies keep money overseas because they don't want to pay the high import tax to bring it in. So the government would rather get 0% of those trillions of dollars rather than 10-15% of it. Makes sense right?

You must not follow our government spending very much. If you are complaining about some party being thrown it kinda shows how ignorant you are because I can guarantee you that it wouldn't even register on a percentage basis of our budget spending. We could literally burn millions of dollars and dance around it like savages and not really have it register on a percentage basis of our budget spending...our spending issues are literally much, much larger than things you seem to have a problem with, which means you just have no clue what they are.

I think I've made a comment about this on a previous post somewhere. It seems you simply have no clue how international business works. Take a simple international business course or seminar and get back to me. To put it simply, repatriation of funds have absolutely nothing to do with imports so mentioning one like you are talking about the other indicates an extremely high level of ignorance when speaking on this subject (it is like being asked what your favorite drink is and answering "baseball").

So people who make a salary from the taxpayer's dollars have the right to throw a party with taxpayer dollars without asking? Gee, and I thought you were a smart person. I don't give a flying fuck what % of tax dollars it makes up, it's unethical no matter what.

A little info for you, I live in NY, we're one of the highest taxed states in the country... When I see politicians in Albany giving themselves raises, throwing parties for stupid reasons, giving money to people who don't want to work, paying overweight state troopers $100,000 a year to eat doughnuts, mis-managing Medicaid, having low standards for welfare so those who pay taxes have to pay even more taxes, of course I'm going to be pissed off you jackass.

I mean you have the right to be angry and whatever you want, but it is the logical equivalent of being angry that somebody keyed your car when a construction accident gone awry dropped a steel beam on your vehicle that crushed it. Sure, you can stomp your feet about the asshole that keyed it, but it isn't going to do much about the real problem which is that steel beam.

I'm making a point that the government does spend unwisely...at least given its funding levels (as I see our budget deficit as an issue)...however, I'm more worried about the big picture rather than the small stuff.

Welfare is a huge problem in my state and is one reason the taxes are so high. The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare, I would say that's a problem seeing as the federal deficit is $20 trillion. 32% of my state's budget is for welfare. How much does your state spend on welfare? I understand welfare programs are run by each state, but if we took tax dollars spent for welfare and applied them to the federal deficit, the deficit would be erased within a matter of 10 years if the rest of the budget is balanced correctly.

"The nation spends $2 trillion a year on welfare"

LOL

Hint, we spend MUCH more on Corp welfare than people welfare in the US, Your right wing meme is stale


REMEMBER CLINTON JOINED WITH THE GOP ON "WELFARE REFORM" IN 1996 PUTTING A 5 YEAR LIFETIME LIMIT ON IT??? THEY ALSO LIMITED FEDERAL WELFARE MONEY TO THE SAME AMOUNT EACH YEAR THAT HAS NEVER INCREASED, LESS THAN $20 BILLION A YEAR

Most families in poverty don't receive welfare
Poverty is higher than in 1996

How welfare reform changed American poverty, in 9 charts


THAT $20 TRILLION IN DEBT CAN BASICALLY BE TRACED BACK TO 2 GUYS POLICIES SINCE 1981 (Hint RR, Dubya) who blew up spending AS they decreased revenues and GREATLY decreased the EFFECTIVE tax rates on the "job creators"

 

[Dale Smith]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

 

[JonKoch]

Okay, let's put this theory to the smell test.

Name a nation where businesses are not taxed nor state-owned and it has proven to have been beneficial to the population. If you want to work off of what may make sense in your head (not agreeing with you, but just pointing out how absurd it is what you are proposing), then communism should have worked and would be the best system of governance for the people...it presented an idyllic utopian society where people work, not based off of self-interest, but based off of their own altruism.

Maybe it is just me...but it didn't really seemed like that worked out so well. Likewise, prove that your inane "theory" actually has practical application in the real-world by showing an example, on a nation-wide scale, where it has shown success.

All First World countries I know of have taxes on corporations. Sadly, our country has chosen to drive corporations away to other shores.

Ireland has a 12.5% maximum tax rate for corporations. Major corporations have moved their headquarter to that country infuriating...the European Union. Their economy is BOOMING. Far greater than the mediocre growth of our country. Apple moved their headquarters to Ireland in the 1990's. CNN, a far left news source, headlined that Apple "artificially" lowered their tax bill. I'm not sure how one "artificially" lowers their tax bill. The article claims Apple paid a low of 2% of the profits attributed to their subsidiaries in Ireland.

Our corporate tax rate is either the highest or second highest in the world at a maximum of 39%. That is simply obscene.

What Progressives simply cannot comprehend is that our economy is NOT static. Our economy is dynamic and we must recognize that fact. By that, I mean that Progressives believe that if we collect taxes at a rate of 10% on net profits of $100,000.00 the tax collected will be $10,000.00. Progressives believe that if you raise that rate to 39%, the tax collected will be $39,000.00! How cool is that? The problem is that at 39%, the company, who has a fiduciary relationship with their stockholders will find any way legally possible to avoid that exorbitant tax. The result is that you collect 39% on $10,000.00 instead of $100,000.00 resulting in tax collected of $3,900.00 and not $39,000.00. How is that good for anyone?

What a bunch of BS

You like most righties conflate MARGINAL TAX RATES (FEDERAL 35% today) with EFFECTIVE tax rates.


Feb 27, 2012
Warren Buffett: ‘It Is A Myth’ That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High

The interesting thing about the corporate rate is that corporate profits, as a percentage of GDP last year were the highest or just about the highest in the last 50 years. They were ten and a fraction percent of GDP. That’s higher than we’ve seen in 50 years. The corporate taxes as a percentage of GDP were 1.2 percent, $180 billion. That’s just about the lowest we’ve seen. So our corporate tax rate last year, effectively, in terms of taxes paid for the United States, was around 12 percent, which is well below those existing in most of the industrialized countries around the world. So it is a myth that American corporations are paying 35 percent or anything like it…Corporate taxes are not strangling American competitiveness.
Warren Buffett: ‘It Is A Myth’ That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High

2011 study by the Congressional Research Service: U.S. effective rate at 27.1 percent, slightly lower than the OECD (DEVELOPED NATIONS) average of 27.7 percent.


Reality Check on Corporate Taxes
Those who complain U.S. corporations pay more taxes than the rest of the world are either uninformed or disingenuous.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/econ...3/reality-check-on-corporate-income-tax-rates


IF ONLY WE HAD A GOV'T WHO DECIDED THAT TO DO BUSINESS IN THE WORLDS LARGEST ECONOMY NEEDED TO PAY TAXES HERE INSTEAD OF ALLOWING THEM TO DODGE THEM BY "OFF SHORING" THEIR PROFITS!!!!


Repatriation? Oh yeah, that worked great with Dubya's 5% rate

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

Yes the rich need tax cats. Ask them if they want to keep more of the money they earn.its suppose to be free country it's their choice because it's their money it's their private property it's not your choice to steal from them out of jealousy, to make up for your own inability to earn money, and your interest in collecting welfare. The more people the rich put on welfare with their tax dollars the more crippled people like you with big mouths we have who can't support themselves except throuugh stealing from others this is a formula for national decay. Our founders came here to be free not to steal from others in order to make a living.

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

Yes the rich need tax cats. Ask them if they want to keep more of the money they earn.its suppose to be free country it's their choice because it's their money it's their private property it's not your choice to steal from them out of jealousy, to make up for your own inability to earn money and your interest in collecting welfare. The more people the rich put on welfare with their tax dollars and more crippled people you have his big mouth I can't support themselves except throuugh stealing from others this is a formula for national decay. Our founders came here to be free not to steal from others in order to make a living.

Free? LMAOROG

You should Google Geo Washington and your TeaT*rd ancestors during the whiskey rebellion.

HINT GOV'T (WE) DECIDE WHAT WE DO AS A NATION AND UNTIL THE GOPers DECIDED TO "STARVE THE BEAST" TO BENEFIT THE "JOB CREATOR" CLASS AS THEY'VE OFF SHORED JOBS AND LOWERED THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE "BURDENS" ON MUCH LARGER SHARE OF THE PIE UNDER GOP "TRICKLE DOWN" BS, WE USED TO DO PRETTY WELL. Thanks Ronnie

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

actually we would have a better civilization with lower taxes i.e. with one group not becoming more and more crippled and uncivilized because they survive by stealing from other groups. Most communist countries had a parasite tax to encourage everyone to work and contribute to society and to not leach off society .

 

[JonKoch]

I agree. SCREW IT!!! Screw trickle down!!! Screw tax cuts for the super rich!!! Screw cutting science, education and infrastructure.

Fuck libertriainism in its nasty ass.

If you give the superrich tax cuts they then have more money with which to invent new products and create new jobs. You can't give the poor tax cuts because they don't pay taxes and what would be the point anyway since They don't invent new products that would help the economy grow and generating new jobs

Yeah, the rich need tax cuts *shaking head*



In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

1945-1980 we had no jobs right? HOW ABOUT 1993-2000?

So, let me get this straight...I barter my labor in increments of an hour in order to accrue enough Federal Reserve Notes to exist on and you believe that the federal de-facto "gubermint" is entitled to 25 to 30 percent of my sweat equity due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933???? Do tell???? Please tell me how you can justify that.......

"Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of March 1933"

LMAOROG, Sure Bubs, sure

HINT IT'S CALLED A SOCIETY!!!!



Taxes Are What We Pay for Civilized Society


Oliver Wendell Holmes

actually we would have a better civilization with lower taxes i.e. with one group not becoming more and more crippled because they survive by stealing from other groups

WE HAD LOW TAXES UNTIL RONNIE DECIDED TO GUT TAXES ON THOSE "JOB CREATORS" AND SHIFTED THEM TO THE MIDDLE CLASS BUBBA

AND CONservative economics NEVER has worked ANYWHERE, just look to those "small Gubmt" nations you want to emulate, mostly in Latin America/Asia Bubs