SCOTUS: Liberal vs Conservative Arguments re: Video/Gay Marriage

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    Look at the arguments of both sides. Which side's arguments hold the most water with you? Majority or minority?

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    NYT: The Supreme Court...eliminated the possibility that any part of the trial of a constitutional challenge to a ban on same-sex marriage now under way in San Francisco would be broadcast before it concludes.

    The vote in the case was 5 to 4 and divided along ideological lines, with the court’s four more liberal justices in dissent.
    More Bush v Gore bs, or principle?
     
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    So the conservatives are saying there were procedural issues dealing with time and availability for public comments? 5 days were not enough they say.

    The liberals ask what more is needed than 138,542 out of 138,574 total favoring transmission of the court case.

    138,574 public comments are not enough, or the conservatives just needed a justification to protect the conservative haters?
     
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    I think they are just ensuring that the trial remains fairly decided.. I am a proponent of gay marriage, and I think this is a GOOD idea, so that right wingers cant turn around and claim tampering, etc, and to help to keep jurors and witnesses safe from reprocussions, as well. All in all, a good decision, in all fairness.
     
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    The only real argument conservatives have is gay marriage destroys families and undermines "traditional" marriage.

    When you point out that gays are family "members" and the majority of "straights", many times, don't even know any gays and not a single one can explain how a gay getting married will impact their own, then there is no real argument.

    Just "portents" of unexplained "doom".
     
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    A bad decision. Why? Because the claims of the right are false, and because what teh right claims either way...is n-o-t law.

    There were repercussions after overturning Jim Crow laws. So what.

    You are misguided. The courts are not about fairness. The issue is about more than the case before the courts today.

    Bringing camera feeds into the US Federal courts, is a good thing. What one side or the other will cry about later should not be a deciding factor.

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    that said, I understand where you are coming from and strongly disagree. But i understand.
     
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    I know.

    Prop. 8, the trial that should be seen - latimes.com

     
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    agreed, i skimmed the decision and the majority is spot on

     
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    Reject the premises of both sides, as they both rest on the seriously shaky ground that the state has any business proactively involving itself in the sanctioning of any private contractual agreements, let alone marriages.
     
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    the issue of the case is whether to broadcast the trial, gay marriage was not the issue in this case
     
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    marriage licenses are granted by the....gulp, state.


    and the 21st century is here. televise the cases heard in federalcourts
     

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