Scott Walker calls abortion to save a woman's life a 'false choice'

I am pro-life, and I do believe that, if it's either the mother or child who lives, the mother takes priority.

Otherwise more women are going to die, and that's not acceptable. Did Walker ever say what exactly those other options were?
 
He should have answered the question hypothetically, but I am tired of that question along with what about rape and incest bc it is so minuscule and changes the topic of the ethics of the standard abortion.
 
Is their a pro-life nutter in this thread who doesn't want to end abortion.....because he thinks most abortions are performed on liberal fetuses?

That's awesome.
 
Is their a pro-life nutter in this thread who doesn't want to end abortion.....because he thinks most abortions are performed on liberal fetuses?

That's awesome.
That guys an idiot, we all know Margaret Sanger would be proud with how many blacks are being aborted. And I truly hope she replaces Hamilton on our currency, and in democrat cities they still name roads after her
 
Well, Walker has his governing models...

Abortion illegal...

Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Sudan (r), Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen.
 
Of course it is a false choice. Killing the baby to save the life of the mother, is almost NEVER medically necessary.
You mean removing a fetus.

Besides, who are you to decide what is best for someone you never met?
 
I owned my own business, am retired, collect SS and have used my medicare therefore I am a socialist parasite and if that is the case then please buy me the T shirt and I will proudly wear it as none of you here could stand toe to toe with this 78 year old man. That being said, I am not an abortion supporter. I am a pro life liberal parasite on some aspects of this place I call America.
 
Of course it is a false choice. Killing the baby to save the life of the mother, is almost NEVER medically necessary.

You've just made the case for the necessity of an exception for protecting the life of the mother and you don't even know it.
No that still is protecting life, difficult question sure, but still protection of life
 
I owned my own business, am retired, collect SS and have used my medicare therefore I am a socialist parasite and if that is the case then please buy me the T shirt and I will proudly wear it as none of you here could stand toe to toe with this 78 year old man. That being said, I am not an abortion supporter. I am a pro life liberal parasite on some aspects of this place I call America.
Oh my god, one of them has a differing view
 
I believe it was Socrates who said I know so much, because I know there is so much that I don't know. Meaning when you feel the way you claim to do, and love your opinions so much, you stop thinking.

That's funny, because I believe it was Nietzsche who said that Socrates was a bad joke of a philosopher. The same Nietzsche who warned that pathetic chumps like you are life destroyers, drunk with jealousy at your own incompetence, so you seek the destruction of life as the only means available to you to compete with those who are stronger than yourself.
 
I'm not surprised a fascist lemming would get a case of the vapors over Walker's defense of human life, specifically the unborn. They don't have the capacity to even consider how irrelevant the concept is regarding how an abortion would save the life of a mother.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists issued a statement saying: "Abortions are necessary in a number of circumstances to save the life of a woman or to preserve her health. Unfortunately, pregnancy is not a risk-free life event."

OK... What's the number and what are the circumstances? None, It's bullshit.

The abortion procedure is not – ever – necessary to save the life of a mother. There are, however, maternal health risks that require a treatment that can cause the unfortunate, indirect, and unintentional death of an unborn child. For instance, in life-threatening ectopic pregnancies that require removal of a Fallopian tube, the pregnancy (including the unborn child) will be removed along with the Fallopian tube. The intention in this procedure is first and foremost to save the life of the mother, and in order to do so, a physician must perform a procedure that indirectly causes the death of her unborn child.

This is not an abortion. Furthermore, a true abortion – in which the direct intention is to end the life of a human being – is not a treatment for any type of maternal health risk. The death of a baby never saves his or her mother; procedures that may lead to a child’s death save the life of the mother.

The Association of Pro-Life Physicians, whose mission is to practice pro-life medical ethics as the only legitimate means of living out the do no harm clause of the Hippocratic Oath, clarified the subject with the following statement, which can be found within its broader context here:

Since socialist are notorious for the mass extermination of "surplus populations" and for promoting eugenics I'm not surprised this bed wetter wasted his time attacking Scott Walker, but just for the record I am all for and totally encourage liberals to abort or swallow all their genetic garbage before it gestates into another parasite on the species.

Sad response by a sad man. What's your plan to end abortion, it's only been decreasing since it became legal by the way ;)


I don't want to end it. Decent human beings wouldn't dream of intentionally killing their children.

Self absorbed liberal parasites do.

It's a self correcting problem.

I'm disgusted by the savagery of it. I don't know how we can collectively look ourselves in the mirror as a society while this happens under protection of law and call ourselves civilized, but as long as it results in less liberals, I really can't get too worked up about it.


i just made a thread on this....
 
Jesus, what the fuck.
Gov. Scott Walker says choosing between the life of a pregnant woman and her fetus is a "false choice," adding that he believes better options are always available.

Walker's statements in a television interview after Thursday's Republican presidential debate underscore how he has become increasingly vocal about his views against abortion now that he's running for president.

Abortion rights activists say that in some cases, the only option to protect a woman's life is to end her pregnancy.

"It's a false choice. There is always a better option out there," Walker told Fox News' Sean Hannity on Thursday night.

"I've said for years, medically there's always a better choice than choosing between the life of an unborn baby and the life of the mother," he added. "Medically that's just a nonissue."

Walker's comments echoed those he made earlier in the night during the debate when one of the moderators, Megyn Kelly, asked him, "Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion? And with 83% of the American public in favor of a life exception, are you too out of the mainstream on this issue to win the general election?"

Walker answered that he has a position on the issue "that's in line with everyday America."

"Well, I'm pro-life, I've always been pro-life, and I've got a position that I think is consistent with many Americans out there," Walker said to applause from the crowd at the GOP debate in Cleveland. "I believe that that is an unborn child that's in need of protection out there, and I've said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of that mother. That's been consistently proven."

When asked what better medical options are available — and whether Walker believes there are no instances in which a family and doctors have to choose between the life of the pregnant woman and the life of her fetus — his campaign spokeswoman AshLee Strong repeated late Friday that he is "100% pro-life."

"He acknowledges what science says, and that is that an unborn child is that — a child, and deserving of protection," Strong said.

Jenni Dye, research director for the liberal group One Wisconsin Now, disputed Walker's comments.

"Absolutely there are situations where a woman's life is in danger if she continues a pregnancy," she said.

"We need someone with medical training making these decisions, not politicians," said Dye, who previously served as the executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin. "If Governor Walker wants to make these decisions about women's pregnancies, he should pursue a medical degree and not the presidency."

Tanya Atkinson, executive director of Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin, said conditions such as cancer, severe infections or heart disease might prompt health care providers to end a pregnancy to save a woman's life.

"No matter how we may personally feel about abortion, politicians should never come between a woman and the health care she and her doctor agree is necessary," Atkinson said in a statement.

Last month, Walker signed legislation making it a felony to perform abortions after 20 weeks, except when the life of the mother is in immediate danger. It does not include exemptions for rape, incest or the health of the mother.

Dye said the exemption is "so narrow" it still puts pregnant women in danger.

A federal court fight is possible over the measure.
Scott Walker calls abortion to save a woman s life a false choice
Walker and his ilk can kvetch all he/they wants about abortion, but if I want one and he gets involved with my having one, I'll ram an umbrella up his arse! It's my body, and it's product; only I have anything to say about it. My being male, and far past the age of pregnancy has nothing to do with it.
 
Jesus, what the fuck.
Gov. Scott Walker says choosing between the life of a pregnant woman and her fetus is a "false choice," adding that he believes better options are always available.

Walker's statements in a television interview after Thursday's Republican presidential debate underscore how he has become increasingly vocal about his views against abortion now that he's running for president.

Abortion rights activists say that in some cases, the only option to protect a woman's life is to end her pregnancy.

"It's a false choice. There is always a better option out there," Walker told Fox News' Sean Hannity on Thursday night.

"I've said for years, medically there's always a better choice than choosing between the life of an unborn baby and the life of the mother," he added. "Medically that's just a nonissue."

Walker's comments echoed those he made earlier in the night during the debate when one of the moderators, Megyn Kelly, asked him, "Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion? And with 83% of the American public in favor of a life exception, are you too out of the mainstream on this issue to win the general election?"

Walker answered that he has a position on the issue "that's in line with everyday America."

"Well, I'm pro-life, I've always been pro-life, and I've got a position that I think is consistent with many Americans out there," Walker said to applause from the crowd at the GOP debate in Cleveland. "I believe that that is an unborn child that's in need of protection out there, and I've said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of that mother. That's been consistently proven."

When asked what better medical options are available — and whether Walker believes there are no instances in which a family and doctors have to choose between the life of the pregnant woman and the life of her fetus — his campaign spokeswoman AshLee Strong repeated late Friday that he is "100% pro-life."

"He acknowledges what science says, and that is that an unborn child is that — a child, and deserving of protection," Strong said.

Jenni Dye, research director for the liberal group One Wisconsin Now, disputed Walker's comments.

"Absolutely there are situations where a woman's life is in danger if she continues a pregnancy," she said.

"We need someone with medical training making these decisions, not politicians," said Dye, who previously served as the executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin. "If Governor Walker wants to make these decisions about women's pregnancies, he should pursue a medical degree and not the presidency."

Tanya Atkinson, executive director of Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin, said conditions such as cancer, severe infections or heart disease might prompt health care providers to end a pregnancy to save a woman's life.

"No matter how we may personally feel about abortion, politicians should never come between a woman and the health care she and her doctor agree is necessary," Atkinson said in a statement.

Last month, Walker signed legislation making it a felony to perform abortions after 20 weeks, except when the life of the mother is in immediate danger. It does not include exemptions for rape, incest or the health of the mother.

Dye said the exemption is "so narrow" it still puts pregnant women in danger.

A federal court fight is possible over the measure.
Scott Walker calls abortion to save a woman s life a false choice
Walker and his ilk can kvetch all he/they wants about abortion, but if I want one and he gets involved with my having one, I'll ram an umbrella up his arse! It's my body, and it's product; only I have anything to say about it. My being male, and far past the age of pregnancy has nothing to do with it.
You being male makes the point mute.
 
Jesus, what the fuck.
Gov. Scott Walker says choosing between the life of a pregnant woman and her fetus is a "false choice," adding that he believes better options are always available.

Walker's statements in a television interview after Thursday's Republican presidential debate underscore how he has become increasingly vocal about his views against abortion now that he's running for president.

Abortion rights activists say that in some cases, the only option to protect a woman's life is to end her pregnancy.

"It's a false choice. There is always a better option out there," Walker told Fox News' Sean Hannity on Thursday night.

"I've said for years, medically there's always a better choice than choosing between the life of an unborn baby and the life of the mother," he added. "Medically that's just a nonissue."

Walker's comments echoed those he made earlier in the night during the debate when one of the moderators, Megyn Kelly, asked him, "Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion? And with 83% of the American public in favor of a life exception, are you too out of the mainstream on this issue to win the general election?"

Walker answered that he has a position on the issue "that's in line with everyday America."

"Well, I'm pro-life, I've always been pro-life, and I've got a position that I think is consistent with many Americans out there," Walker said to applause from the crowd at the GOP debate in Cleveland. "I believe that that is an unborn child that's in need of protection out there, and I've said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of that mother. That's been consistently proven."

When asked what better medical options are available — and whether Walker believes there are no instances in which a family and doctors have to choose between the life of the pregnant woman and the life of her fetus — his campaign spokeswoman AshLee Strong repeated late Friday that he is "100% pro-life."

"He acknowledges what science says, and that is that an unborn child is that — a child, and deserving of protection," Strong said.

Jenni Dye, research director for the liberal group One Wisconsin Now, disputed Walker's comments.

"Absolutely there are situations where a woman's life is in danger if she continues a pregnancy," she said.

"We need someone with medical training making these decisions, not politicians," said Dye, who previously served as the executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin. "If Governor Walker wants to make these decisions about women's pregnancies, he should pursue a medical degree and not the presidency."

Tanya Atkinson, executive director of Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin, said conditions such as cancer, severe infections or heart disease might prompt health care providers to end a pregnancy to save a woman's life.

"No matter how we may personally feel about abortion, politicians should never come between a woman and the health care she and her doctor agree is necessary," Atkinson said in a statement.

Last month, Walker signed legislation making it a felony to perform abortions after 20 weeks, except when the life of the mother is in immediate danger. It does not include exemptions for rape, incest or the health of the mother.

Dye said the exemption is "so narrow" it still puts pregnant women in danger.

A federal court fight is possible over the measure.
Scott Walker calls abortion to save a woman s life a false choice
Walker and his ilk can kvetch all he/they wants about abortion, but if I want one and he gets involved with my having one, I'll ram an umbrella up his arse! It's my body, and it's product; only I have anything to say about it. My being male, and far past the age of pregnancy has nothing to do with it.
You being male makes the point mute.
It does not! My point is my vote on the issue, which is, the owner of the body should be the only voice that should be heard.
 
I'm not surprised a fascist lemming would get a case of the vapors over Walker's defense of human life, specifically the unborn. They don't have the capacity to even consider how irrelevant the concept is regarding how an abortion would save the life of a mother.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists issued a statement saying: "Abortions are necessary in a number of circumstances to save the life of a woman or to preserve her health. Unfortunately, pregnancy is not a risk-free life event."

OK... What's the number and what are the circumstances? None, It's bullshit.

The abortion procedure is not – ever – necessary to save the life of a mother. There are, however, maternal health risks that require a treatment that can cause the unfortunate, indirect, and unintentional death of an unborn child. For instance, in life-threatening ectopic pregnancies that require removal of a Fallopian tube, the pregnancy (including the unborn child) will be removed along with the Fallopian tube. The intention in this procedure is first and foremost to save the life of the mother, and in order to do so, a physician must perform a procedure that indirectly causes the death of her unborn child.

This is not an abortion. Furthermore, a true abortion – in which the direct intention is to end the life of a human being – is not a treatment for any type of maternal health risk. The death of a baby never saves his or her mother; procedures that may lead to a child’s death save the life of the mother.

The Association of Pro-Life Physicians, whose mission is to practice pro-life medical ethics as the only legitimate means of living out the do no harm clause of the Hippocratic Oath, clarified the subject with the following statement, which can be found within its broader context here:

Since socialist are notorious for the mass extermination of "surplus populations" and for promoting eugenics I'm not surprised this bed wetter wasted his time attacking Scott Walker, but just for the record I am all for and totally encourage liberals to abort or swallow all their genetic garbage before it gestates into another parasite on the species.

My grandmother refused an abortion (the doctor told her another baby would kill her) and died having my mother. The medical care is much better these days, but there ARE still situations where it's one or the other or both will die. Ask ANY doctor.
Scott Walker is out of his mind.
 
Jesus, what the fuck.
Gov. Scott Walker says choosing between the life of a pregnant woman and her fetus is a "false choice," adding that he believes better options are always available.

Walker's statements in a television interview after Thursday's Republican presidential debate underscore how he has become increasingly vocal about his views against abortion now that he's running for president.

Abortion rights activists say that in some cases, the only option to protect a woman's life is to end her pregnancy.

"It's a false choice. There is always a better option out there," Walker told Fox News' Sean Hannity on Thursday night.

"I've said for years, medically there's always a better choice than choosing between the life of an unborn baby and the life of the mother," he added. "Medically that's just a nonissue."

Walker's comments echoed those he made earlier in the night during the debate when one of the moderators, Megyn Kelly, asked him, "Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion? And with 83% of the American public in favor of a life exception, are you too out of the mainstream on this issue to win the general election?"

Walker answered that he has a position on the issue "that's in line with everyday America."

"Well, I'm pro-life, I've always been pro-life, and I've got a position that I think is consistent with many Americans out there," Walker said to applause from the crowd at the GOP debate in Cleveland. "I believe that that is an unborn child that's in need of protection out there, and I've said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of that mother. That's been consistently proven."

When asked what better medical options are available — and whether Walker believes there are no instances in which a family and doctors have to choose between the life of the pregnant woman and the life of her fetus — his campaign spokeswoman AshLee Strong repeated late Friday that he is "100% pro-life."

"He acknowledges what science says, and that is that an unborn child is that — a child, and deserving of protection," Strong said.

Jenni Dye, research director for the liberal group One Wisconsin Now, disputed Walker's comments.

"Absolutely there are situations where a woman's life is in danger if she continues a pregnancy," she said.

"We need someone with medical training making these decisions, not politicians," said Dye, who previously served as the executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin. "If Governor Walker wants to make these decisions about women's pregnancies, he should pursue a medical degree and not the presidency."

Tanya Atkinson, executive director of Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin, said conditions such as cancer, severe infections or heart disease might prompt health care providers to end a pregnancy to save a woman's life.

"No matter how we may personally feel about abortion, politicians should never come between a woman and the health care she and her doctor agree is necessary," Atkinson said in a statement.

Last month, Walker signed legislation making it a felony to perform abortions after 20 weeks, except when the life of the mother is in immediate danger. It does not include exemptions for rape, incest or the health of the mother.

Dye said the exemption is "so narrow" it still puts pregnant women in danger.

A federal court fight is possible over the measure.
Scott Walker calls abortion to save a woman s life a false choice
Walker and his ilk can kvetch all he/they wants about abortion, but if I want one and he gets involved with my having one, I'll ram an umbrella up his arse! It's my body, and it's product; only I have anything to say about it. My being male, and far past the age of pregnancy has nothing to do with it.
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