Science vs God - a debate...a conversation

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by dmp, Jul 19, 2004.

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    Hope this isn't a re-post... :)

    Good for thinking about, at least ;)

     
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    I've seen it before, but not on here.

    I will say, though, that more and more scientists are accepting Intellegent Design as a plausible theory for the origin of the universe, i.e. the "First Cause" which caused the Big Bang.
     
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    Yeah, more and more scientists are accepting the fact that the odds a bunch of amino acids would come together to form a living being is more preposterous than a tornado passing through a junkyard causing the spare parts to fall together into a functional 747.
     
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    There's a lot said about the measurements of light and heat. But those are poor analogies for good and evil. If evil is the absence of good it still would have a limit. How do you measure good? And what is the negative value of evil? If God created everything, then he also created evil. Was that a good thing or an evil thing? Is something bad happening necessarily an evil occurance?

    Which one of the two students got a passing grade? Would the failure of one of them be an evil event? What level of evil would it be? Was the professor evil in belittling the first student? Was the second student evil in belittling the professor?

    Dark is the absence of light. The introduction of light into dark creates various shades of darkness. Light is energy which is heat. Heat always flows toward no heat to creat various temperatures. Therefore there would be varying degrees of good and evil.

    I have to get to bed, but this could open up a can of good or evil worms.

    :bat:
     
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    Actually your entire supposition of varying degrees misses something.

    Moral relativity which is what you suppose still proves flawed:

    When a pitcher of water is pure, it is pure.

    When it gets 1 drop of red food coloring added, you cannot see it. -Yet the entire pitcher is contaminated.

    The water at the top is not called 'more contaminated". -It is ALL contaminated.

    Therefore the absence of light in any capacity is dark.

    The absence of good in any capacity is evil.

    Pure good=Holy.
     
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    Just outright cool!
     
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    1) good measurements: simple good; somewhat good; higher good; very good; greatest good.
    2) negative value of evil: deviltry; diablerie; evildoing; immorality; iniquity; misdeed; peccancy; sin; wickedness; wrongdoing.
    3) Creation of good and evil: Creation of evil is a good thing for it gives one the chance to create good.
    4) Bad happening necessarily evil occurance: No. Example: A volcano is a bad happening but it necessarily results in the formation of new land for humanity to live on, create music on, create literature on, become charitable on, give mercy to one's fellow man on and to be thankful for this bad happening in the first place.

    It depends on whether the liberal teacher knew the difference between justice and truth or admitting ignornace of two alternative realities.

    Only if one of the two students failed to learn the material covered in this course.

    Depending on who does the judging of the continuum between good and evil.

    Not at all. The professor was belitting himself by demonstrating his own ignorance of the direct connection between science and religion.

    Not at all. The second student simply provided a valid alternative to the professor's concrete certainty.

    Now you are beginning to understand.

    I hope the sleep fairy springles good dream dust over you so that you will not have evil dreams. How many worms can you get in a 4 ounce can?

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    Firstly, the professor's brain could be observed. So the student's grand final statement falls flat.

    Secondly, the Theory of Evolution is the logical derivative of many observable phenomena.
     
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    No - his brain 'can't' be viewed; by anyone in audience...that was the point. The point is there are lots of 'real' things we can't observe.

    It just happens that divine design makes MORE sense to people who are honestly looking; devoid of agenda or prejudice.

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    Sure it could. Take a class field trip to a hospital and get the man an MRI. Easy.

    Or if you want to take it to an extreme, bash the man's head in.

    I understand his point. His last example was awful, that's all.


    Not to me.
     

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