Schumers next target...Cruise Lines

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    So now he wants the department of State to get involved in enforcing US regulations on international cruise lines....caliming that if they want US passengers, they must adhere to US regulations....He wants to enact a "passenger bill of rights"...

    Uh.....are those passengers forced to go on cruises? Are they not aware that something may happen?

    What is next? Forcing all resorts to offer full refunds to guests if there is rain?

    Schumer: Cruise lines are 'wild west' of the travel industry; seeks 'Bill of Rights' | SILive.com
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    He represents New York. A state that is second to only Florida as it pertains to the financial benefit of cruise ship docking...and passenger patronage.
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    The last cruise they gave was cut short by several days, skipped two destinations had ppl stranded for 3 days and what did Carnival do to fix it. Gave them a $100 bill and a handshake.

    You dont think anything is wrong with that? How would you fix it?
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    Fix it?

    It is not anyone place to fix it.

    If, in fact, someone does not like the way they treated their passengers, then that person should not use their service.

    In time, they will either learn to do the right thing or go out of business.

    I dont see why government needs to fix anything.

    Like I said.....what is next....look at this scenario...

    You go to a website of a resort....they show sunny skies, beaches with sunbathers.....golf...tennis.....palm trees....birds chirping.....

    Nowhere do yoiu see dark clouds and downpours.

    So what happens when it rains for the 4 days you are there.

    Afterall, nowhere do they talk about the possibility of rain.

    Should you get a refund?
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    You don't fix it. You leave it alone and let the free market fix it. Schumer can't regulate cruise ships. They aren't registered in the US. They are foreign ships. He can't stop Americans from buying a ticket and traveling on those ships. He can't stop them from docking in our ports because that is regulated by international treaty. Schumer can do nothing except make ridiculous proposals that are hopeless of fixing anything.

    These aren't cruise ships, these affected ships are Carnival ships. Leave the free market be and passengers will book on Princess Cruises or Royal Carribean. There are dozens of cruise ship lines. Not only are there cruise ship lines, but a person can go for the cheap and book on a cargo vessel where you take whatever you get.

    The last thing people need is some idiotic American politician imposing yet more American regulations.
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    true....but see how the left thinks?

    "How would you fix it"

    If I dont like the service in a restaurant, I dont ask for my money back. I dont look for government to pass some regulation.

    I dont go back to the restaurant.

    What is so hard about that concept?

    Jeez...people shop around for an hour looking to save 10 cents on a gallon of gas......but when it comes to their health...or a 5K cruise....they want government to intervene to ensure they dont make a bad edecision.
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    Were they forced to buy tickets?

    Have you ever been on a cruise? If so, then did you read the fine print on your ticket?
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    Did you also oppose the same regulations on the airlines?
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    We regulated docks after 911.
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    Yes.

    I once sat on a plane for 4 hours on the trarmac. I called the airline a week later...was told to write a letter...I wrote a letter....and I was nbot satisfied with the respoonse.

    SO I never flew that airline again.

    That year alone, before the event, I spent over 30K for me and some of my employees to fly arouind the country for sales calls and seminars.

    And they lost my business.

    No need for government intervention. The free market takes care of it.
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    there is a difference between safety regulations and buyers remorse regulations.

    People know dam well that their trip may be interrupted by bad weather, system malfunctions, personal illness.....


    It is all personal choice.
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    Free market? That's something the left doesn't understand.
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    it is not a difficult concept to understand.

    They do understand it.

    Sadly, they refuse to ever admit they made a bad decision...it is always someone elses fault....and they want resitution.
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    This is about also about safety.

    "Passengers on cruise ships be allowed to leave after a certain time if the impairment to the ship can’t be repaired in a reasonable amount of time.

    Passengers should have access to well-trained medical personnel during an emergency and that there be an adequate number of medical personnel aboard to deal with the emergency.


    Passengers should have a crew well-trained to handle a number of emergencies, including evacuations from the cruise ship.

    Every cruise ship should have a backup generator in case of a power failure."

    Senator wants ?Cruise Ship Bill of Rights? | News To Me with George Mathis
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    Many of the things he's purposing are basic safety issues. People don't know that when they book a trip on what they think is a reputable cruise line that they may be going out to sea with a poorly trained crew on a ship lacking in basic medical equipment.
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    Also safety failures on airlines are far more dangerous than on a ship 99% of the time.

    Passenger discomfort is not the same as the passengers being corpse-grease on a big hole in the ground.

    Also remember that these ships do have to meet safety requirements as per international law just to be able to dock in the US, just like the US can enforce basic regulations on airlines that land here.
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    Sure that would be fine if you didnt pay up front. What you're saying is like paying for a meal in advanced. Get served a shitty meal. Then tell the customer to walk it off.

    And what about the ppl shafted out if their money? Big deal? Get over it? What?

    Your last example is mother nature and not operational problems with the resort. That example is the dumbest thing ever said...and purposfully so
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    Passengers can not leave a cruise ship if there is no way to leave. When they can, such as when docked in St Maarten last week, they are allowed to leave.

    Passengers DO have access to well trained medical personnel on a cruise ship

    Passengers do have a well trained crew.

    Every cruise ship does have a back up generator.

    What Schumer wants is already offered. He knows that.

    He is in his typical campaign mode. People, such as you, see him as "wanting to help the people"...when, in fact, he is insisting on what is already offered.

    He just wants his name on a bill.

    FYI....the free market?

    Such is the reason all he "wants" is already offered.
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    So if 100 people get sick from salmonella at a resteraunt and 15 people die, your solution is to not go back to that resteraunt and let the free market sort it out.:eek: What if the outbreak is from a specific brand of lettuce that is sold nationally, who is going to do the testing to determine the cause of the outbreak? Man, you people are dense sometimes.
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    The free market stuck these ppl out to sea, missed several vacation spots and then gave them $100 bill and told them to suck d**k. Thats how the free market fixes things...they keep the money, dont provide the service and tell you to go play in traffic.

    What is fair for the passenger isnt even a concern. The first thing you do is run to defend the Criuse Lines

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