School removes police and metal detectors, student shoots another student.

[2aguy]

Okay, not going to take the Bible as a source on child rearing with verses like these.

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9




There might be a whole lot of reasons a child acts out. Mental illness, for instance. Of course, our schools just want to dope these kids up on Ritalin for 12 years and then dump them out on society.

They might live in an area where crime and poverty are rampant... but since white people don't have to deal with that, they don't care.



Wow.. okay, let's look at that. How many Americans are killed by snakebite every year...

Venomous Snakes | NIOSH | CDC

A venomous bite is called an “envenomation.” Although death from venomous snake bites is rare, a worker with a severe envenomation or allergy to snake venom can die from a venomous bite

www.cdc.gov

Each year, an estimated 7,000–8,000 people are bitten by venomous snakes in the United States, and about 5 of those people die. The number of deaths would be much higher if people did not seek medical care.

How many Americans die of gun violence every year?

Statistics | Giffords

Courage to Fight Gun Violence

giffords.org

39,000 AMERICANS DIE FROM GUN VIOLENCE EVERY YEAR—AN AVERAGE OF 100 PER DAY1​

Hmmmmm....

Deer kill 200 people a year...

Number of people killed in mass public shootings in 2021...total?

43

Deer need to be banned and confiscated....or something....right?

 

[2aguy]

Okay, not going to take the Bible as a source on child rearing with verses like these.

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9




There might be a whole lot of reasons a child acts out. Mental illness, for instance. Of course, our schools just want to dope these kids up on Ritalin for 12 years and then dump them out on society.

They might live in an area where crime and poverty are rampant... but since white people don't have to deal with that, they don't care.



Wow.. okay, let's look at that. How many Americans are killed by snakebite every year...

Venomous Snakes | NIOSH | CDC

A venomous bite is called an “envenomation.” Although death from venomous snake bites is rare, a worker with a severe envenomation or allergy to snake venom can die from a venomous bite

www.cdc.gov

Each year, an estimated 7,000–8,000 people are bitten by venomous snakes in the United States, and about 5 of those people die. The number of deaths would be much higher if people did not seek medical care.

How many Americans die of gun violence every year?

Statistics | Giffords

Courage to Fight Gun Violence

giffords.org

39,000 AMERICANS DIE FROM GUN VIOLENCE EVERY YEAR—AN AVERAGE OF 100 PER DAY1​

Wrong....



Gun murder 2019....



10,258

in 2019 there were 10,258 actual gun murders...but the victims of those murders, 70-80% were criminals, engaged in the lifestyle of criminals....the majority of the rest of the victims were the friends, family, and acquaintances of the criminals, accidentally shot when the criminal was attacked, or murdered with the criminal......



Gun suicide 2019....



23,941



Car accidents 2019....



39,107



Cars are deadlier than guns.....suicide by gun does not count.....Japan, and many countries in Europe have higher suicide rates than the U.S. with their gun control laws....



Americans use their legal guns, on average, 1.1 million times a year to save lives. They are used to stop rapes, robberies, beatings, stabbings, and murder. That number comes from the Centers for Disease Control.

 

[beautress]

Okay, not going to take the Bible as a source on child rearing with verses like these.

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9




There might be a whole lot of reasons a child acts out. Mental illness, for instance. Of course, our schools just want to dope these kids up on Ritalin for 12 years and then dump them out on society.

They might live in an area where crime and poverty are rampant... but since white people don't have to deal with that, they don't care.



Wow.. okay, let's look at that. How many Americans are killed by snakebite every year...

Venomous Snakes | NIOSH | CDC

A venomous bite is called an “envenomation.” Although death from venomous snake bites is rare, a worker with a severe envenomation or allergy to snake venom can die from a venomous bite

www.cdc.gov

Each year, an estimated 7,000–8,000 people are bitten by venomous snakes in the United States, and about 5 of those people die. The number of deaths would be much higher if people did not seek medical care.

How many Americans die of gun violence every year?

Statistics | Giffords

Courage to Fight Gun Violence

giffords.org

39,000 AMERICANS DIE FROM GUN VIOLENCE EVERY YEAR—AN AVERAGE OF 100 PER DAY1​

*yawn*

 

[JoeB131]

Hmmmmm....

Deer kill 200 people a year...

Um, yeah, we know... don't count people of color as victims of mass shootings when they are involved in Mass shootings. Go away, Dick Tiny.

 

[2aguy]

Um, yeah, we know... don't count people of color as victims of mass shootings when they are involved in Mass shootings. Go away, Dick Tiny.

And that kind of logic is why we know you are an idiot....

 

[JoeB131]

And that kind of logic is why we know you are an idiot....

Not at all. YOu want to up the threshold of "Mass Shootings" to just be when a maniac kills a bunch of people, as opposed to the actual definition, where more than one person is killed or wounded. We have HUNDREDS of those incidents, every year.

 

[2aguy]

Not at all. YOu want to up the threshold of "Mass Shootings" to just be when a maniac kills a bunch of people, as opposed to the actual definition, where more than one person is killed or wounded. We have HUNDREDS of those incidents, every year.

The actual definition is this.....from Mother Jones, the anti-gun, left wing extremist source.......the FBI definition....

US mass shootings, 1982–2021: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

Obama wasn't getting enough mass public shootings so he changed the number from 4 to 3....
---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation




Deaths in actual mass public shootings... ( someone do the math and tell us what percent of 10,235 the number 73 equals.....)

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...


Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

 

[JoeB131]

The actual definition is this.....

Goddammit, guy, when does Mother Jones become an authority?

Mass shooting- More than one person shot. Seems like a pretty clear definition to me.

We have hundreds of those every years.

 

[2aguy]

Goddammit, guy, when does Mother Jones become an authority?

Mass shooting- More than one person shot. Seems like a pretty clear definition to me.

We have hundreds of those every years.

Moron, they aren't the authority, they simply state that they use the FBI definition of mass public shooting......

When gang members in democrat party controlled cities try to murder each other, that is a completely different crime from an event where a lone nut goes in to simply murder innocent people..

But since lone nuts shooting people in public places is so rare....

How rare?

Out of over 330 million people, there were 6 mass public shootings in 2021.......6 nuts out of over 330 million people....

So rare you have to lie about mass public shootings in order to stampede uninformed Americans into giving up their God given Right to self defense....

 

[jackflash]

Maybe to keep the rats away we could put prison-worthy fences around public schools with a tower vigil and 3 shifts-per-diem sharpshooters to man security.

Or we could close public schools and put the educational burden back into churches where they were when this nation began. Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and others were educated in wise weekday uses of church buildings to educate men and teach women how to run their own home. That may be subject to change, but education needs to be put back into the churches where people worship god so that children learn accountability for their actions. The public burden is too high to continue on as it is now with unions deciding to teach atheism through athiest scholars who are taught God is bad, man is good, which is wrong because God's precepts are firmly founded in rightness; man's precepts are temporary and are quickly made into folly like the Democrat pursuit of the false witness of people they hate and the lying narrative that thoroughly negates the truth to the bottom of the wastebasket..

Edit: spelling repairs

Think what the closing of public schools would save the taxpayers in money in just one year alone!!! Just axing the public school unions would be worth it! Of course the statist left would want the church/schools to be of the "First Church Of The Immaculate Pagans" religion which would fall under the jurisdiction of local union 666 nationally. If the collages ALL went private the statist left would have no headquarters left for them to congregate in so they would have to practice their voodoo out on the streets for all to see(a comical sight for sure!).

 

[beautress]

The schools should have left the spiritual reading of a scripture or saying a prayer in school to parents. They didn't because eliminating parents from the equation is the goal of sinister politicians who go after first amendment rights of people with regard to free speech and free speech.

 

[beautress]

So, will any church do, or just Christian Churches of the correct denomination?

I truly favor removing funding for public schools and placing education on the family and its choice of church schools that are likely Sunday school rooms on Sundays. And run mathlete contests between the different denominations, along with writing skills, the whole nine yards of interscholastic competitions to see who's putting out the best mathematicians, science fair winners, communications through poetic word and freestyle writing, one-hour art contests, sewing and cooking contests. Communities could sponsor athletic games, public libraries could sponsor reading comprehension contests, You'd be surprised who might step up to the plate to take on the training of children to become responsible future parents, lawyers, farmers, and church school teachers on ethical behaviors. Home schooling would always be a good thing with the task of raising their children to compete equally with church-sponsored education efforts. Even newspapers could publish winners to help their communities turn out the best students. It would be good for the kids. to know that people they see at church are also interested in their futures. How loving is that. Love teaches the children to live caring lives as adults.

 

[beautress]

Think what the closing of public schools would save the taxpayers in money in just one year alone!!! Just axing the public school unions would be worth it! Of course the statist left would want the church/schools to be of the "First Church Of The Immaculate Pagans" religion which would fall under the jurisdiction of local union 666 nationally. If the collages ALL went private the statist left would have no headquarters left for them to congregate in so they would have to practice their voodoo out on the streets for all to see(a comical sight for sure!).

Paganism did not make America great. Any group that promotes lying, cheating, stealing, arrogance, revenge, animal cruelty, human disfigurement, human sacrifice, hatefulness, sexual diviance, etc.and would be deleterious to society which the pagans hate and that does not add up to what it takes to teach a child kindness to others and enough love to defend a nation to put their life on the line for others. Sorry, paganism endangers others and is unacceptable in a free society since it works against people just like communism gives rights to one class, but hoi polloi are up the creek without a paddle.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron, they aren't the authority, they simply state that they use the FBI definition of mass public shooting......

And that's a stupid definition. The FBI has an interest in making crime seem less bad than it is in this country. Because is we said how bad things really are, we might ask, 'Why the fuck aren't you doing your jobs?"

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

689 mass shootings. 702 dead, 2823 wounded.

A high price to pay for your fetish.

 

[2aguy]

And that's a stupid definition. The FBI has an interest in making crime seem less bad than it is in this country. Because is we said how bad things really are, we might ask, 'Why the fuck aren't you doing your jobs?"

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

689 mass shootings. 702 dead, 2823 wounded.

A high price to pay for your fetish.

Moron......a gang banger shooting up a funeral or party of a rival gang is different from a lone nut walking into a public space to shoot random strangers........

In 2021, there were 6 nuts who walked into public spaces to shoot strangers, killing, in total, 43 people...

Deer kill 200 people a year.

Lawn mowers kill between 90-100 people a year.

Ladders kill 300 people a year.

Bathtubs kill 350 people a year.

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019 alone......



6 individuals out of over 330 million Americans...total killed 43.

But 6 nuts isn't enough to stampede Americans into giving up their Rights....so you guys lie, and include criminals murdering other criminals because you have to get that number up...even though every American knows the difference...so you lie and don't tell them that the Gun Violence Archive counts gang bangers and other criminals shooting each other as mass public shootings...

You can't push your agenda with the truth, facts or reality, so you lie.....

 

[JoeB131]

Moron......a gang banger shooting up a funeral or party of a rival gang is different from a lone nut walking into a public space to shoot random strangers........

Not really. You just want a more selective definition so the problem doesn't look so bad. The problem is, you can't do it without going full racist.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I truly favor removing funding for public schools and placing education on the family and its choice of church schools that are likely Sunday school rooms on Sundays. And run mathlete contests between the different denominations, along with writing skills, the whole nine yards of interscholastic competitions to see who's putting out the best mathematicians, science fair winners, communications through poetic word and freestyle writing, one-hour art contests, sewing and cooking contests. Communities could sponsor athletic games, public libraries could sponsor reading comprehension contests, You'd be surprised who might step up to the plate to take on the training of children to become responsible future parents, lawyers, farmers, and church school teachers on ethical behaviors. Home schooling would always be a good thing with the task of raising their children to compete equally with church-sponsored education efforts. Even newspapers could publish winners to help their communities turn out the best students. It would be good for the kids. to know that people they see at church are also interested in their futures. How loving is that. Love teaches the children to live caring lives as adults.

Sorry, but it is just a stupid idea. In a town of any even medium size there are not enough churches with space to teach K-12 and there are not enough trained teachers of their denomination to do the teaching.

Something like this could by design only offer the most basic courses, there could be no advanced math taught, no higher science, none of those things.

This would put us back in the dark ages.

 

[beautress]

Sorry, but it is just a stupid idea. In a town of any even medium size there are not enough churches with space to teach K-12 and there are not enough trained teachers of their denomination to do the teaching.

Something like this could by design only offer the most basic courses, there could be no advanced math taught, no higher science, none of those things.

This would put us back in the dark ages.

My "stupid idea" is not original, Mr. Gator. The authors of the United States Constitution and its amendments were all educated withing the hallowed halls of their family's church. I rest my case in favor of a school system that prays for peace on earth, peace in our land, and brotherly love. Today's schools have produced teachers who abuse innocent American children. Parents can and should get involved if they have a modicum of influence over the organization of educators. Educator Unions have marginalized parents recently. That is the worst of all worlds.

1997: Mary Kay Letourneau - Wikipedia
1998-2021: Ex mosque teacher jailed for 23 years over child sex abuse
2004-2018: Case Summaries
2012: https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/2012/05/31/aag-reporting-abuse.pdf
2014: A Crisis As Millions Of Students Abused By Teachers
2015: Sexual Abuse by Teachers is on the Rise - The Aquila Report
2021: Category: Teacher Scandals
1981-2019: Timeline: Priest Abuse Claims Date Back Decades

Edit: sentence correction.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

My "stupid idea" is not original, Mr. Gator. The authors of the United States Constitution and its amendments were all educated withing the hallowed halls of their family's church.

Things that work ok on a small scale do not always translate to a larger scale. 36 states alone have more people in them than the country did in 1776.

I rest my case in favor of a school system that prays for peace on earth, peace in our land, and brotherly love.

Here is a wild idea, why not teach your own children to pray for peace on earth, peace in our land, and brotherly love. That is what we did, we did not need the schools to do it for us. Take your kids to church and teach them those things.

Today's schools have produced teachers who abuse innocent American children

Thank goodness that has ever happened in any church ever....

Parents can and should get involved if they have a modicum of influence over the organization of educators. Educator Unions have marginalized parents recently.

Yes they should and the good parents still do. Nobody can remove the parents from the process if the parents do not allow it to happen.

 

[2aguy]

Not really. You just want a more selective definition so the problem doesn't look so bad. The problem is, you can't do it without going full racist.

Racist? Doesn't it get old always calling people who disagree with you racist?

A gang member shooting at other gang members at a funeral for another gang member is not a mass public shooting.....not that normal people understand as a mass public shooting....

Since actual mass public shootings, a lone individual or a couple of nuts, going into a public place to murder random strangers......are so rare....in 2021 out of over 330 million people 6 nuts decided to do this....killing a total of 43 people.....

And to remind you...

Deer kill 200 people a year.

Lawn mowers kill between 90-100 people a year.

ladders kill 300 people a year

knives kill over 1,500 people a year...

Cars kill over 39.000 people a year


You guys have to throw in every gang banger shooting you can find in order to lie to normal people about the number of "mass public shootings" there are...since 6 out of over 330 million Americans isn't going to stampede them into giving fascist assholes like you the power to ban the most effective tool they have for their own self defense from the very criminals your political party, the democrat party, keep releasing onto our streets....