Scalia Rewrites History, Claims 5-4 Bush v. Gore Decision ‘Wasn’t Even Close’

[AmazonTania]

Whether it is close or not is really irrelevant. People who dwell in the past really need to get a hold of themselves. Scalia is right. You guys who are still complaining really need to get over it.

 

[Sallow]

By Ian Millhiser

During a speech at Wesleyan University last night, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia offered a strange revision of the time he joined with four of his conservative colleagues to make George W. Bush president:

At the end of the speech, Scalia took questions from the audience. One person asked about the Bush-Gore case, where the Supreme Court had to determine the winner of the election.

“Get over it,” Scalia said of the controversy surrounding it, to laughter from the audience.“

Scalia reminded the audience it was Gore who took the election to court, and the election was going to be decided in a court anyway—either the Florida Supreme Court or the U.S. Supreme Court.

It was a long time ago, people forget…It was a 7-2 decision. It wasn’t even close,” he said.​

Bush v. Gore was not a 7-2 decision — and indeed, Scalia could tell this is true by counting all four of the dissenting opinions in that case. Although it is true that the four dissenters divided on how the Florida recount should proceed — two believed there should be a statewide recount of all Florida voters while two others believed a narrower recount would be acceptable — not one of the Court’s four moderates agreed with Scalia that the winner of the 2000 presidential election should effectively be chosen by five most conservative members of the Supreme Court of the United States.

Scalia Rewrites History, Claims 5-4 Bush v. Gore Decision 'Wasn't Even Close'

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Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia speaks at Wesleyan - The Middletown Press : Serving Middletown, CT

Gore Won Florida

It really should be overturned.

For no other reason then Scalia himself said this was a "one time only decision never to be used again."

That just simply is not good law.

 

[Sallow]

Whether it is close or not is really irrelevant. People who dwell in the past really need to get a hold of themselves. Scalia is right. You guys who are still complaining really need to get over it.

Scalia is entirely wrong about "getting over it".

There would nothing to be gotten over if this decision was a good one.

In fact..he should welcome the challenge.

 

[AmazonTania]

Scalia is entirely wrong about "getting over it".

There would nothing to be gotten over if this decision was a good one.

In fact..he should welcome the challenge.

If you think the decision is good or bad, that's your opinion. The decision was made and there is nothing that can be done to change that. If you don't like the way these elections turn out, then work harder to make the process better. But as long as you cling to this flawed idea called Democracy, you will continue to have these sort of problems with people who can't handle losing.

 

[Freewill]

Whether it is close or not is really irrelevant. People who dwell in the past really need to get a hold of themselves. Scalia is right. You guys who are still complaining really need to get over it.

Scalia is entirely wrong about "getting over it".

There would nothing to be gotten over if this decision was a good one.

In fact..he should welcome the challenge.

If Gore's lawyer had not lied before the FSC and got a man to sign an affidavit to that lie then it never would have gone to the SCOTUS. Gore deserved to lose as soon as his lawyer lied his ass off, justice was served. Besides, Gore did actually lose, at least twice.

And, if Gore had carried his own state things would have been different, but they knew he was a fool we were lucky.

 

[M14 Shooter]

By Ian Millhiser

During a speech at Wesleyan University last night, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia offered a strange revision of the time he joined with four of his conservative colleagues to make George W. Bush president:

At the end of the speech, Scalia took questions from the audience. One person asked about the Bush-Gore case, where the Supreme Court had to determine the winner of the election.

“Get over it,” Scalia said of the controversy surrounding it, to laughter from the audience.“

Scalia reminded the audience it was Gore who took the election to court, and the election was going to be decided in a court anyway—either the Florida Supreme Court or the U.S. Supreme Court.

It was a long time ago, people forget…It was a 7-2 decision. It wasn’t even close,” he said.​

Bush v. Gore was not a 7-2 decision — and indeed, Scalia could tell this is true by counting all four of the dissenting opinions in that case. Although it is true that the four dissenters divided on how the Florida recount should proceed — two believed there should be a statewide recount of all Florida voters while two others believed a narrower recount would be acceptable — not one of the Court’s four moderates agreed with Scalia that the winner of the 2000 presidential election should effectively be chosen by five most conservative members of the Supreme Court of the United States.

Scalia Rewrites History, Claims 5-4 Bush v. Gore Decision 'Wasn't Even Close'

Scalia Lies About Bush V. Gore – Tells Crowd To ‘Get Over It’ | Addicting Info

Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia speaks at Wesleyan - The Middletown Press : Serving Middletown, CT

Gore Won Florida

It really should be overturned.

For no other reason then Scalia himself said this was a "one time only decision never to be used again."

That just simply is not good law.

There is no one on this board less qualified to make this determination than you.

 

[Freewill]

Well it does turn out that CNN reports the vote was 7-2. Which means, asshats 0, Frank 1.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court late Tuesday overturned a Florida Supreme Court decision that ordered about 170,000 votes recounted by hand to resolve the stalled presidential election -- a ruling benefiting Republican George W. Bush.

"Seven justices of this Court agree that there are constitutional problems with the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court," according to a 7-2 "per curiam," or unsigned, opinion in Bush v. Gore. "The only disagreement is as to the remedy."

The nation's highest court also sent the case back to the Florida court for further proceedings. But the U.S. Supreme Court dealt Democrat Al Gore a blow by forbidding the manual recounts on the grounds that they could not be finished by the Tuesday deadline, set by federal law, for state legislatures to choose electors.

CNN.com - U.S. Supreme Court rules manual vote recounts unconstitutional - December 13, 2000

 

[JakeStarkey]

M14 is simply a low information far righty reactionary who just adequately defined himself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Well it does turn out that CNN reports the vote was 7-2. You and CNN are low information types you know.

Sigh. The signed vote was 5 - 4.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Well it does turn out that CNN reports the vote was 7-2. Which means, asshats 0, Frank 1.

This is absolutely correct - 7 justices agreed that FL election law did not provide equal protection.

Given the relevant election laws and the US constitution, there was no way to legally continue the recount as there was no longer any legislation that allowed for such.

And so, the election ended.

Liberals simply choose to not accept these truths.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Far right reactionaries simply don't bother to read their own stuff from above that "'Seven justices of this Court agree that there are constitutional problems with the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court,' according to a 7-2 "per curiam," or unsigned, opinion in Bush v. Gore. 'The only disagreement is as to the remedy."

Once again, the signed decision was 5-4, which is the law, which is taught in HS and colleges.

 

[Papageorgio]

The 7-2 decision in effect ended the count in Florida, at that ruling, the election was over. There was no way the votes could have been or would have been counted correctly.

 

[Sallow]

Scalia is entirely wrong about "getting over it".

There would nothing to be gotten over if this decision was a good one.

In fact..he should welcome the challenge.

If you think the decision is good or bad, that's your opinion. The decision was made and there is nothing that can be done to change that. If you don't like the way these elections turn out, then work harder to make the process better. But as long as you cling to this flawed idea called Democracy, you will continue to have these sort of problems with people who can't handle losing.

Of course there is something you can do about it. The Decision can be reversed. Doing that would go a long way in making sure it doesn't happen again.

And yeah..I will continue with this flawed idea called "Democracy".

Always.

 

[Sallow]

The 7-2 decision in effect ended the count in Florida, at that ruling, the election was over. There was no way the votes could have been or would have been counted correctly.

No it wasn't.

They could have ruled that the election itself was flawed, and had a run off in Florida. There was more than enough reason to do that.

 

[Freewill]

Well it does turn out that CNN reports the vote was 7-2. You and CNN are low information types you know.

Sigh. The signed vote was 5 - 4.

Sigh, as usual liberals parse the truth.

From the article: Broadly speaking, the 7-2 split was over the question of reversing the Florida court, but the 5-4 split was over the termination of manual recounts.

And again, it never would have gone to the SCOTUS if the lawyer for Gore had not lied, a trait held my many liberals.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Unsigned on whether to look at it, 7 -2.

Signed, to give it to Bush, 5-4.

Any student answering the question on what was the SCOTUS vote, any answer other than 5 to 4 is a fail.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The 7-2 decision in effect ended the count in Florida, at that ruling, the election was over. There was no way the votes could have been or would have been counted correctly.

Jake and his liberal brothers can't count past 5

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[CrusaderFrank]

Unsigned on whether to look at it, 7 -2.

Signed, to give it to Bush, 5-4.

Any student answering the question on what was the SCOTUS, any answer than 5 to 4 is a fail.

Fail

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[CrusaderFrank]

The 7-2 decision in effect ended the count in Florida, at that ruling, the election was over. There was no way the votes could have been or would have been counted correctly.

No it wasn't.

They could have ruled that the election itself was flawed, and had a run off in Florida. There was more than enough reason to do that.

Gore lost every recount

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[skookerasbil]

By Ian Millhiser

During a speech at Wesleyan University last night, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia offered a strange revision of the time he joined with four of his conservative colleagues to make George W. Bush president:

At the end of the speech, Scalia took questions from the audience. One person asked about the Bush-Gore case, where the Supreme Court had to determine the winner of the election.

“Get over it,” Scalia said of the controversy surrounding it, to laughter from the audience.“

Scalia reminded the audience it was Gore who took the election to court, and the election was going to be decided in a court anyway—either the Florida Supreme Court or the U.S. Supreme Court.

It was a long time ago, people forget…It was a 7-2 decision. It wasn’t even close,” he said.​

Bush v. Gore was not a 7-2 decision — and indeed, Scalia could tell this is true by counting all four of the dissenting opinions in that case. Although it is true that the four dissenters divided on how the Florida recount should proceed — two believed there should be a statewide recount of all Florida voters while two others believed a narrower recount would be acceptable — not one of the Court’s four moderates agreed with Scalia that the winner of the 2000 presidential election should effectively be chosen by five most conservative members of the Supreme Court of the United States.

Scalia Rewrites History, Claims 5-4 Bush v. Gore Decision 'Wasn't Even Close'

Scalia Lies About Bush V. Gore – Tells Crowd To ‘Get Over It’ | Addicting Info

Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia speaks at Wesleyan - The Middletown Press : Serving Middletown, CT

Gore Won Florida

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