SC Teacher Used Limbaugh's Book To Teach Third Graders About Slavery

[Luddly Neddite]

I saw the book at the remainder book store we frequent. Its fiction and insulting fiction at that.

Why would the school allow fiction to be taught in place of facts?

 

[Stephanie]

I guess this is why so many self-proclaimed Conservatives don't like teachers

Can you believe this crap?

SC Teacher Used Limbaugh's Book To Teach Third Graders About Slavery

Are you cool with this? Is this OK w/you?

yeah yeah, they hate teachers, firemen, policemen, doctors, scientist, liberals who makes up ugly lies like, conservatives hates blah blah blah
You're the one who hates teachers you're all bent over a book they used you posted it to rant over it

just wow and then accuse others of hating

 

[JoeB131]

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Lots of anger, name-calling and insults, of course.

And a nice helping of hatred of America's history and Founding Fathers, as usual.

Has anyone read the book? Perhaps you can point out the historical errors and we can discuss.

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No, I have not read it, but pardon me for being skeptical that a book written by Rush Limbaugh is an appropriate education tool, just as I don't believe it's appropriate for schools to be showing Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth as a scientific aid.

Except that Al Gore's book has been endorsed by a lot of scientists in the field of climatology.

No historian worth his salt would be caught having a drink with Limbaugh's work.

 

[JoeB131]

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Lots of anger, name-calling and insults, of course.

And a nice helping of hatred of America's history and Founding Fathers, as usual.

Has anyone read the book? Perhaps you can point out the historical errors and we can discuss.

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Where to start?

Dad2Three did a good job pointing out how Limbaugh's claim that the Pilgrims tried "socialism" and failed is an urban legend not born out by facts.

Here's another pretty good criticism of Limbaugh's books on a literary level.

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/rush-rush-rushing-abyss/#continue_reading_post

 

[Mac1958]

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Lots of anger, name-calling and insults, of course.

And a nice helping of hatred of America's history and Founding Fathers, as usual.

Has anyone read the book? Perhaps you can point out the historical errors and we can discuss.

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Where to start?

Dad2Three did a good job pointing out how Limbaugh's claim that the Pilgrims tried "socialism" and failed is an urban legend not born out by facts.

Here's another pretty good criticism of Limbaugh's books on a literary level.

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/rush-rush-rushing-abyss/#continue_reading_post

So the writer points out one example - that Limbaugh evidently blames communitarianism for the effects of a harsh winter - and otherwise tosses out a few vague criticisms without specifics or examples of how Limbaugh has misrepresented our founding and growth.

The writer does make fun of a horse.

He does admit he doesn't like Limbaugh's politics.

Is that it? Is that as bad as it gets?

My guess is that the Left assumes that the book is very pro-American, and that flies right in the face of their passionate efforts to diminish our creation, our growth and our place in the world. Our very existence.

I wouldn't worry, Joe. Limbaugh's books won't slow down your efforts.

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[JoeB131]

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So the writer points out one example - that Limbaugh evidently blames communitarianism for the effects of a harsh winter - and otherwise tosses out a few vague criticisms without specifics or examples of how Limbaugh has misrepresented our founding and growth.

The writer does make fun of a horse.

He does admit he doesn't like Limbaugh's politics.

Is that it? Is that as bad as it gets?

My guess is that the Left assumes that the book is very pro-American, and that flies right in the face of their passionate efforts to diminish our creation, our growth and our place in the world. Our very existence.

I wouldn't worry, Joe. Limbaugh's books won't slow down your efforts.

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I served America in her armed forces for 11 years. You talk a lot of smack, I put it on the line. NOr did I avoid Military Service like Limbaugh claiming to have a cyst on his ass.

So I honesty don't want to hear this being "pro-American". It's pretty much this fat fuck Limbaugh trying to rationalize greed and wealth inequality.

As far as "diminishing our creation", how does having honest discussions about history do that?

Frankly, I take great comfort in knowing the Pilgrims and the Founding Fathers were just as dysfunctional as we are. And, yes, talking about the genocide of Native Americans and Slavery might not be the crisp, clean self-image we want of our history, but it's there.

The Pilgrims did not flee religous persecution. They just wanted a land where they could impose their religious stupidity without question.

The Founding Fathers were not fighting for "Freedom". They just didn't want to pay their taxes.

Why is admitting these things diminishing us?

What diminishes us is that a character like Limbaugh, a fat, lying hypocritical fraud, can have as much influence as he has, and no one calls him on it.

 

[JoeB131]

Another point to Mac. The thing about "communtarianism' isn't a minor quibble.

It's the whole premise of Rush's argument the Pilgrims, and one he has made for years.

It just doesn't happen to be true. The Pilgrims did fine. they had plenty of food once the indians showed them what to grow and what to hunt.

"Gee, Squanto, sorry about the Genocide."

"SOrry, what?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/weekinreview/21zernike.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0

Sadly, the problems occurred because of the same kind of selfishness that you love.

Bradford did get rid of the common course — but it was in 1623, after the first Thanksgiving, and not because the system wasn’t working. The Pilgrims just didn’t like it. In the accounts of colonists, Mr. Pickering said, “there was griping and groaning.”

“Bachelors didn’t want to feed the wives of married men, and women don’t want to do the laundry of the bachelors,” he said.

The real reason agriculture became more profitable over the years, Mr. Pickering said, is that the Pilgrims were getting better at farming crops like corn that had been unknown to them in England.

As for Jamestown, there was famine. But historians dispute the characterization of the colony as a collectivist society. “To call it socialism is wildly inaccurate,” said Karen Ordahl Kupperman, a historian at New York University and the author of “The Jamestown Project.” “It was a contracted company, and everybody worked for the company. I mean, is Halliburton a socialist scheme?”

The widespread deaths resulted mostly from malaria. Tree ring studies suggest that the settlement was also plagued by drought.

But the biggest problem, Professor Kupperman said, was the lack of planning. The Virginia settlers came to the New World thinking that they could find gold or a route to the Pacific Ocean via the Chesapeake Bay, and make a quick buck by setting up a trading station like others were establishing in the East Indies.

“It was just wishful thinking,” she said, “a failure to recognize that these things are really, really difficult.”

So let's get this straight. The "Communists" at Plymouth did just fine, until they decided they simply didn't want to do that anymore.

Meanwhile, at Jamestown, the Captialists quickly had a nasty famine, lots of people died due to bad planning and management, and a lot of people were in it for a get rich quick scheme.

 

[JoeB131]

Final Point.

A big problem I frequently find with Historical Fiction or Dramas is that we tend to apply our own values to them.

Either in saying, "Look how backwards those people were" or giving them modern day sensibilities.

So Robert Graves Claudius sounds like a 20th century Englishman rather than an ancient Roman.

 

[Mac1958]

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Joe, your military service doesn't preclude me from "talking smack". And until you folks in the PC Police manage to stop people from disagreeing with you on internet message boards, you'll need to either learn to live with it or utilize the "ignore" function.

I'm merely observing what the American Left is doing at a macro level: We stole the land from the Indians, we stole land from the Mexicans, the Founding Fathers were slaveholders, capitalism is evil, Americans are racists, white people are evil, America must be "changed" and "fundamentally transformed" and "re-made" and on and on. And on and on and on. I see these types of conversations far more than I see them saying anything positive about America or its history, and it's not even close.

It doesn't make them wrong about any of their individual points, but it does make it pretty clear that they're not terribly enamored with this country.

Denials notwithstanding.

And no doubt, Limbaugh's approach isn't going to sit with you as a result.

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[JoeB131]

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Joe, your military service doesn't preclude me from "talking smack". And until you folks in the PC Police manage to stop people from disagreeing with you on internet message boards, you'll need to either learn to live with it or utilize the "ignore" function.

I guess hiding on an internet board is all you have left. I doubt you talk this kind of smack in any kind of workplace.

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I'm merely observing what the American Left is doing at a macro level: We stole the land from the Indians, we stole land from the Mexicans, the Founding Fathers were slaveholders, capitalism is evil, Americans are racists, white people are evil, America must be "changed" and "fundamentally transformed" and "re-made" and on and on. And on and on and on. I see these types of conversations far more than I see them saying anything positive about America or its history, and it's not even close.

It doesn't make them wrong about any of their individual points, but it does make it pretty clear that they're not terribly enamored with this country.

Denials notwithstanding.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson.

You see, I see these kinds of conversations as healthy. It seems to me that you don't really want to discuss the evils of racism or capitalism, so you instead say that people who do want to talk about them don't love America. America is a great country because we had Abe Lincoln, Susan B. Anthony, Martin Luther King who didn't just sit down and pretend everything was fine, but that this country had problems and needed to change.

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And no doubt, Limbaugh's approach isn't going to sit with you as a result.

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What doesn't sit well with me about Limbaugh is that he spends three hours a day rationalizing the worst parts of our society.

 

[tinydancer]

I purchased two of these books for my children today at the Barnes & Noble in North Haven CT after reading the first few chapters. I'm a U.S. history teacher at a private high school here in CT and I must say that this book may just spark a child's interest in history.

I'm reading some of the reviews and I must say that either someone let the left wing fuddie duddies out of the loony bin or the Common Core curriculum has tainted their minds with negativity.

Amazing piece of literature, I believe we have found the architect who has laid the foundation against
the fundamental transformation of this country.

It's pieces of art like this book that will lay the landscape of our youth's minds and be theroadblock in the way a socialism in this great country.

If you love your children, freedoms and our country, you will get this book for your children.

Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims: Time-Travel Adventures with Exceptional Americans by Rush Limbaugh | 9781476755861 | Hardcover | Barnes & Noble

 

[tinydancer]

Children love this book and it has opened the "discover history" door for their minds. YAY!

Customer Reviews
Average Rating 4.5

Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims: Time-Travel Adventures with Exceptional Americans by Rush Limbaugh | 9781476755861 | Hardcover | Barnes & Noble

 

[Mac1958]

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Joe, your military service doesn't preclude me from "talking smack". And until you folks in the PC Police manage to stop people from disagreeing with you on internet message boards, you'll need to either learn to live with it or utilize the "ignore" function.

I guess hiding on an internet board is all you have left. I doubt you talk this kind of smack in any kind of workplace.

Strange. I don't use personal insults or name-calling here or at the workplace. My communication is essentially the same, although I must admit I use the word "fuck" or some version of it here more than at work. Put a few beers in me and put my buddies around me and the "fuck" usage probably moves more toward parity. Well, and full disclosure, my buddies and I do get pretty vicious with the personal insults and name-calling, but it's all in fun there. Unlike here.

And yes, I'm always quite candid and honest, about pretty much everything, here or at work. Not sure why I would need to "hide". Weird that you would try that one, but whatever makes you feel a little better.

As far as the rest goes, you claim you like this country, and I don't believe you. So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

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[Luddly Neddite]

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Lots of anger, name-calling and insults, of course.

And a nice helping of hatred of America's history and Founding Fathers, as usual.

Has anyone read the book? Perhaps you can point out the historical errors and we can discuss.

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No, I have not read it, but pardon me for being skeptical that a book written by Rush Limbaugh is an appropriate education tool, just as I don't believe it's appropriate for schools to be showing Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth as a scientific aid.

Except that Al Gore's book has been endorsed by a lot of scientists in the field of climatology.

No historian worth his salt would be caught having a drink with Limbaugh's work.

And for good reason. Its extremely well researched and factual.

The tee potty wing of Rs is anti-constitution. No, they didn't start out that way but they sold out to the likes of the Kochs and Limbaugh.

If true Americans would read Limbaugh's books, they'd be outraged.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I purchased two of these books for my children today at the Barnes & Noble in North Haven CT after reading the first few chapters. I'm a U.S. history teacher at a private high school here in CT and I must say that this book may just spark a child's interest in history.

I'm reading some of the reviews and I must say that either someone let the left wing fuddie duddies out of the loony bin or the Common Core curriculum has tainted their minds with negativity.

Amazing piece of literature, I believe we have found the architect who has laid the foundation against
the fundamental transformation of this country.

It's pieces of art like this book that will lay the landscape of our youth's minds and be theroadblock in the way a socialism in this great country.

If you love your children, freedoms and our country, you will get this book for your children.

Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims: Time-Travel Adventures with Exceptional Americans by Rush Limbaugh | 9781476755861 | Hardcover | Barnes & Noble

I suspect you're lying about having bought two but if you would just READ it and compare it to the FACTS.

C'mon kg, you don't always have to be the town druggie and drunk. Use your head for a change. READ the book.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Children love this book and it has opened the "discover history" door for their minds. YAY!

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Average Rating 4.5

Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims: Time-Travel Adventures with Exceptional Americans by Rush Limbaugh | 9781476755861 | Hardcover | Barnes & Noble

No,that's not true. This fiction does not awaken an interest in our history. What it will do is teach them not to think and not to value of our incredible story.

It has started them down a road of believing lies about our country. The right lies, Limbaugh is the head of the GOP and certainly the head of the those who tell lies to get votes.

Enough gullible parents and VIOLA!

A whole new version of revolutionary times.

Damn RWs. I just hate what they're doing to our country.

Not surprising they want to take Thomas Jefferson out of the history textbooks. Next, we'll hear they're putting Rush Limbaugh in instead.

 

[JoeB131]

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Joe, your military service doesn't preclude me from "talking smack". And until you folks in the PC Police manage to stop people from disagreeing with you on internet message boards, you'll need to either learn to live with it or utilize the "ignore" function.

I guess hiding on an internet board is all you have left. I doubt you talk this kind of smack in any kind of workplace.

Strange. I don't use personal insults or name-calling here or at the workplace. My communication is essentially the same, although I must admit I use the word "fuck" or some version of it here more than at work. Put a few beers in me and put my buddies around me and the "fuck" usage probably moves more toward parity. Well, and full disclosure, my buddies and I do get pretty vicious with the personal insults and name-calling, but it's all in fun there. Unlike here.

And yes, I'm always quite candid and honest, about pretty much everything, here or at work. Not sure why I would need to "hide". Weird that you would try that one, but whatever makes you feel a little better.

As far as the rest goes, you claim you like this country, and I don't believe you. So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

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I've got a box full of medals that says otherwise.

Unlike you, I just don't mistake the wealthy for my country

 

[Stephanie]

just amazing how bent they get over even his books

that's just sad people... and Marc should apologize to conservatives for that ugly lie (they dislike teachers) in his rant over a book

 

[LoneLaugher]

Can you imagine sending your child to a group like that?

No, I find that kind of behavior incredibly disturbing.

Religion should be free of politics. Do the parents know what this camp is doing?

What do you think?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

just amazing how bent they get over even his books

that's just sad people... and Marc should apologize to conservatives for that ugly lie (they dislike teachers) in his rant over a book

Wrong again.

Let him write all the fiction he wants and let the ignorant idiots suck up. I really don't care.

But, he has rewritten our history to fit his own agenda and yes, I do object to that.

Just once - base your opinion on knowledge. READ the frikken book.