Say it, say it...interesting

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    "Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, 'Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for "spiritual counseling?" THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!'"

    http://www.counterpunch.org/krassner05062008.html

    What does one think of the differences in behavior?
     
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    Still courting Hillary's supporters I see.

    btw, I only heard her answer one question about Wright until the other day when she said people should stop talking about him.
     
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    I wish McCain came across as sympathetic as Obama.
    But I still think Obama's probably an idealistic idiot or an out and out America-hating bastard. Even so, the thing that REALLY bugs me about him is his political views. The whole national health care thing, bringing the troops home and I'm sure underfunding the military scare the shit out of me.
     
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    You missed the point, Wright ain't going away and facing that is facing reality. Better to neutralize than hide.
     
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    I didn't miss the point. Hillary isn't throwing Wright into Obama's face as your article claims.
     
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    She doesn't need to.

    She's like a terrorist politician. She gets the ball rolling, and then moves on to the next thing. SHe got the ball rolling on his blackness, on whether or not he was Muslim, and this.

    It's the way she works.
     
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    Really? Hillary's his mother? She's the one that reproduced with a black man?
     
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    Okay, I'll bite...

    Mr Obama has repeatedly talked about Clinton's Bosnia gaff and Mr. Obama has an entire Campaign that is about bashing Clinton and her being basically a Bushite, and her being old news and part of the old party, while Mr, Obama wouldn't be where he is today without he himself being politically connected, thus quite hypocritical....

    but heh, that's politics and I realize this and I also do recognize that the Clinton's have been hypocritical themselves...

    And Mr Obama has repeatedly brought up Hillary's vote on the Iraq resolution acting as though he never would have voted for it when in all honesty, there is absolutely no way that he could possibly know how he would have voted at the time IF HE WERE actually a US Senator, which he wasn't so....like I said, hard to tell....most of his votes in the Illinois senate he basically voted "present", not committing one way or another to anything controversial...so who's to say that on the Iraq resolution if he were in the us senate wouldn't have been "present" also midcan?


    I think that you underestimate the Clintons Midcan...in this manner, it doesn't matter who it was that Hillary was going up against....it didn't have to be Obama, a half black man...ANYBODY at all that the Clintons would be up against at this point, they would be giving it their "political ALL" TO WIN THIS RACE.... if it were Edwards that she were against, they would still be pulling out all STOPS to win imo, and in many others too. They have absolutely never coward to the fight, the win...not against anyone. This IS NOT about race, except to those that want to make it be, for some sort of political advantage to pull the posse together, the group together...mob like, to me looking at it and it is pretty disheartening to see...

    Anyway, this is how Bill Clinton won the nomination back in 1992....Busted butt, fought tooth and nail, didn't let bad news make him quit or the "right wing" conspiracy crush him or her...he did not have enough delegates to win the nomination until June of 1992.

    This is also what it might take to beat the republicans....but more than likely not....not this race...either Obama or Clinton would be much better presidents than McCain and in my opinion, will win hands down.

    It's the next election, the re-election that is going to be very hard to win...this is where I am looking...2012....by then the republicans will have recouped and all hell will still be breaking loose here and the country still trying to find our place in this global world and economy and all that is going wrong that was actually put in place by the Republicans themselves, will APPEAR to be the Democrat's fault....AT LEAST THIS IS how it will be played imo....and by then the republicans will have a stronger and better candidate that all of their party members can support...trust me, I can see them working on it now!

    Anyway, I don't see any of this that upsets you so much as anything other than dirty, scummy, politics that Obama has been just as successful at as Hillary...

    Even this Gas tax thing that he is blasting Hillary on, Obama voted yes three different times for gas tax relief while in the Illinois senate is what Senator Evan bayh had said on abc this past week and I heard a blip of tim russert questioning Obama on his yes vote to cut gas taxes while in illinois, (was THAT PANDERING Midcan?) and Obama said he made a mistake and he learned from it yahdeedah.... HE DANCED on it midcan....like any other politician midcan, and yes, including Clinton.

    But regarding this incident, what makes Obama any better than Clinton with her vote that was uninformed and wrong on the Iraq resolution? Is only he allowed to make mistakes?

    You seem to be viewing this through tunnel vision Midcan and this surprises me but it is the same thing with most all Obama supporters, of course from my "side's view" hahahahaha! :D, the Obamaites have taken up all the lies about the Clintons that the republicans used to say and they used to take the side of defending the Clintons over it and now walk LOCK STEP with this right wing smear????

    The Obamaites remind me of the Bushites midcan, "their guy's shit don't stink" no matter what...defend till the end and smear others to do such...

    The Reverend Wright is fair game midcan, whether he were black or white or whether he were the reverend of john Edwards and she were running against him...why "play" the race card?

    And as far as this silly notion that because the Clintons invited the Rev Wright to the white house for one occaision to discuss their marital problems and how to help heal the black community's disappointment in them, to that of Barak Obama's 20 year membership to his church is just utterly ridiculous and downright foolish...again, you guys are scaring me....becoming too much like the Bushites than meets my comfort and I feel like it is dejavue midcan!

    Please, please look at what you guys are acting like and tell me that you don't see the similarities to people that "worship" their leader like they are a god.... no one is midcan...people are people, faults and all....and no one on this earth at this time is worth worshipping imo.

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    The Obamaites remind me of the Bushites


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    what the fuck ever.

    You are only supporting a gullible bitch who voted for giving the pres authorization to invade iraq. I mean, why hold dems accountable when there is a chance to put a vagina in the white house? Indeed, talk about the blind team sport bandwagon of bushites...
     

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