Saudi Arabia holds a Royal Flush over America.

[SmokeALib]

Fuck Saudi Arabia.

 

[Brain357]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

We would have less dependence on oil if repubs would stop supporting it like they do.

Personally I don’t think they can do shit. We don’t buy much from Saudi and we’ll start more fracking.

Let’s move away from oil!

 

[Obama2020]

I mean Obama's America as much as anyone's.

Obama? Not even in the picture lol.

 

[Obama2020]

Fuck Saudi Arabia.

They're nasty for sure. Saudi king appointed his favorite son Mohammad to lead the country.
Their only way out is push away the 'out of control' and psychopathic Mohammad... IF they want to keep 'Merica as an ally.

 

[Obama2020]

Is there any doubt that Trump's financial interests have an impact on his judgment concerning foreign governments like Saudi Arabia?

On that alone Trump can be impeached. The hell with Russia, this is a blatant conflict of interest for him and Jared Kushner.
Emoluments clause maybe?

What is the ‘Emoluments Clause’? Does it apply to President Trump?
On Monday morning, a liberal watchdog group filed a lawsuit against President Trump, alleging he’d violated a previously obscure provision in the Constitution, the “Emoluments Clause.”

It takes only one business to file a complaint.
Among those best positioned to raise the issue legally, according to experts, are business competitors who can demonstrate that they’ve lost clients or profits to Trump firms, particularly in cases where Trump’s presidency benefits his company.

 

[evenflow1969]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

 

[evenflow1969]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.

Just the threat of it could force the Saudis to back off.

 

[evenflow1969]

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.

Just the threat of it could force the Saudis to back off.

Hell yes! Iran is their worst fear. Our worst fear is bad economy look how people here are saying they got us by the balls by stroking our worst fear. Lets not panic, we stroke saudi fear they panic more. There governemnt is not as stable as ours. Oil is all they got fear of the Iranians coming and taking it will destabalize the kingdom. I would have a team of diplomats in Iran today if for nothing more than just a bluff, they did not act as I want it would no longer be a bluff. This would also plaquate a few of our allies that are not happy about our pulling out of the Iran deal.

 

[BlindBoo]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

I'm guessing it's because we're also one of the worlds largest consumers of oil too. Not to mention the fact that the Arab desert sands have cheap, easily extracted oil and we don't

btw we can and do influence the market. When we increase our production we cut down on our imports. That can create a glut of oil and drive prices down. The Oil Patch didn't like that........

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.

Just the threat of it could force the Saudis to back off.

Hell yes! Iran is their worst fear. Our worst fear is bad economy look how people here are saying they got us by the balls by stroking our worst fear. Lets not panic, we stroke saudi fear they panic more. There governemnt is not as stable as ours. Oil is all they got fear of the Iranians coming and taking it will destabalize the kingdom. I would have a team of diplomats in Iran today if for nothing more than just a bluff, they did not act as I want it would no longer be a bluff. This would also plaquate a few of our allies that are not happy about our pulling out of the Iran deal.

Yep...the Saudis have nothing to fall back on.
Being a one dimensional economy leaves them vulnerable.
We'd just have to get nasty about it.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

I'm guessing it's because we're also one of the worlds largest consumers of oil too. Not to mention the fact that the Arab desert sands have cheap, easily extracted oil and we don't

btw we can and do influence the market. When we increase our production we cut down on our imports. That can create a glut of oil and drive prices down. The Oil Patch didn't like that........

I lost a shitload during the eighties from that shit.
We've since diversified as has the city of Houston and Texas in general

 

[evenflow1969]

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.

Just the threat of it could force the Saudis to back off.

Hell yes! Iran is their worst fear. Our worst fear is bad economy look how people here are saying they got us by the balls by stroking our worst fear. Lets not panic, we stroke saudi fear they panic more. There governemnt is not as stable as ours. Oil is all they got fear of the Iranians coming and taking it will destabalize the kingdom. I would have a team of diplomats in Iran today if for nothing more than just a bluff, they did not act as I want it would no longer be a bluff. This would also plaquate a few of our allies that are not happy about our pulling out of the Iran deal.

Yep...the Saudis have nothing to fall back on.
Being a one dimensional economy leaves them vulnerable.
We'd just have to get nasty about it.

I tell you what I am getting tired of fucking around in the middle east may be if the next time we take down a governement we should just keep the land. I hate to sound like an imperialist but with china building islands and russia anexing at some point the west is going to have to start playing by the same rules. We and our allies have spent alot of blood sweat and tears in the middle east and the shit just continues.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations

I agree. Don't cut them, eliminate them.

 

[evenflow1969]

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

I'm guessing it's because we're also one of the worlds largest consumers of oil too. Not to mention the fact that the Arab desert sands have cheap, easily extracted oil and we don't

btw we can and do influence the market. When we increase our production we cut down on our imports. That can create a glut of oil and drive prices down. The Oil Patch didn't like that........

I lost a shitload during the eighties from that shit.
We've since diversified as has the city of Houston and Texas in general

That is what the real estate bubble did to me. Diversify or die should be our battle cry!

 

[evenflow1969]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations

I agree. Don't cut them, eliminate them.

Ya when gas is ten dollars a gallon at the pump it will seem real smart./

 

[BlindBoo]

K thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?

We use our own oil?

Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull

Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.

I'm guessing it's because we're also one of the worlds largest consumers of oil too. Not to mention the fact that the Arab desert sands have cheap, easily extracted oil and we don't

btw we can and do influence the market. When we increase our production we cut down on our imports. That can create a glut of oil and drive prices down. The Oil Patch didn't like that........

I lost a shitload during the eighties from that shit.
We've since diversified as has the city of Houston and Texas in general

Those were some tough times in the Oil Patch.

 

[xyz]

If people are willing to pay a lot more for TVs and phones and whatever else is made in China, they should be willing to pay more for gas. Period.

 

[edward37]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

And Trump believes in Peter Pan too?
Earlier this week, President Trump said that the king of Saudi Arabia had denied any knowledge of Khashoggi’s whereabouts, adding that “it sounded to me like maybe these could’ve been rogue killers