...said he is worth $10,000,000,000 (with a 'B')...but can't.....

[Foxfyre]

Tha might actually be the case. However, with the behavior of the Dems / Socialists, it would not surprise me to see the Letitia James try tactics of intimidation toward a prospective lender.

Anything is possible from those who have no ethics, no conscience, no sense of right and wrong.

 

[Chillicothe]

He doesn't want to have to sell properties to raise the money

Pardon me, but......but I think the key-word in Foxfyre's observation is "want". "He doesn't want to have to sell"

Personally, and I'll admit I don't own several high-dollar office buildings (nor have ever had a multi-million dollar judgement against me either).......so, just lemme concentrate on the defendants alleged desire to 'not want to hafta sell'.
With that, I am not at all sure, that the courts rely heavily on what the defendant 'wants' after a jury unanimously found the bloke responsible for fraud, and then a substantial fine was levied, objected to, and then denied.....well, defendant's "wants' evidently don't carry a whole lot of weight. No?
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How do we value the rent free space he has in all your loon heads?

Well, good question.
One way to evaluate that space is compare it to the rental rate that the White House could command. I mean by that, Don Trump is in his skeptics' heads poster Rawley alleges......therefore, not in the White House. So is there an equivalency?
I think there is an interesting valuation puzzle there.
Who is getting the better deal?
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"when socialists are involved..someones money mysteriously disappears and white liberals are all pointing fingers..."

Ummm, OK.
But what does that hafta do with Don Trump's seeming inability to raise a court ordered bond that, in itself, derived from a unanimous verdict by a jury of Don Trump's peers? A jury wrung through competent voire dire by the defendant's attorneys?
Sounds pretty close-to-American style jurisprudence to me. Versus 'Socialism'.
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What the Dem / Socialist vultures in the thread

Ummm??
Like who would be these alleged 'vultures'?
Name names, and offer an explanation if you do.
Anybody can shrill out schoolyard epithets but responsible adults can explain themselves.
And too, we have confidence in your adulthood good poster Hollie.
K?
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Chilledkotex and Moroner would do better exchanging their feelings about how financial things, like bonds, work rather than chesting up to thinkers if the financial world who Know such things.

Now that's a fun post.
Not exactly sure what it means.....but you gotta give points for the posters assumptions.
And....not unimportantly, his StrawMen.
He wants his argument (I think) to project that he (she?) is a "thinker"?
And, that two name-mangled posters know nuthin' about money-stuff.
And so, he makes the assumptions that he is a 'thinker' and his skeptical respondents are naifs.
Yeah, me too. I don't understand his logic either.
Tolja he rides Strawmen. Rather than reasoned thoughtful informed positions.
But we all be OK with that. We ain't here to judge poor poster Weather53. We've seen his over-reliance on StrawMan arguments before.
We be cool.
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However lenders know Trump is good for the money.

Link?

He was probably never worth 10 billion even at his peak

You know, poster Borillar, there is a reasonable credible argument that that may very well be the case.
But how would we know what his balance sheet shows?
And....why would he lie?
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"Leftoids think billionaires have billions in cash just sitting around, when in fact the wealth is in stocks ...... in Trump's case, property."

Didn't we cover that with good poster Weather53?
Is earnest poster Excalibur now trying climb up on W53's Strawman too?
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nobody keeps half a billion in cash lying around idiot .. most wealthy people have said wealth tied up in assets ..

Oh, boy.
Please do not tell the forum that a third poster wants up on that Strawman ride also!
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[White 6]

Cleaned a lot of Posts Deleted as Off-Topic he is worth $10,000,000,000 (with a 'B')...but can't...post bond
Members advised to stay on topic.

 

[Chillicothe]

STFU, AI turd.

Fuck off and learn something......

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And up pops-up our QAnon'rs in a brand new suit.
It's our closeted RWNJ Q-MAGA's that I find so goshdarn amusing in this virtual DewDropInn.

I love this bar!
We've got winners!
We've got ___________!

 

[WEATHER53]

They set this up for lenders to be made reluctant to deal with him when they never were before. Intimidation has to be considered.
Classic element of a witch hunt-Charge and then obstruct the defense and response

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

"Reputable" LOL thanks, I needed a laugh today.

Rawley, MAGAitry is not reputable.

 

[Hollie]

The set this up for lenders to be made reluctant to deal with him when they never were before
Classic element of a witch hunt-Charge and obstruct the defense and response

Definitely. What lender wants the potential headaches of Letitia James directing her Jihad at them? She’s an angry, vindictive DIE hire who has made it clear that she is out to get Trump.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

No straw man
That kind of money, although almost Never asked from a single person, is difficult to move from point A to B. Your flowery language aside, you are displaying your financial ignorance as to moving Huge sums of money. That kind of wealth is almost always illiquid assets taking time. Not bags of cash like you feel.

So are you saying Trump lied when he said he had 400 million in cash?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

All I hear is Trump Humpers making excuses for their Orange God, what a joke.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Its in property... just do your own math and add up the worth of all of his property around the world....

Then why can't he offer one for collateral for a bond?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The set this up for lenders to be made reluctant to deal with him when they never were before

Haha, what a freakish cult lie. Dude got blacklisted years ago. Even the Russian money laundering machine Deutsche said they would no longer work with him. And he went to them because nobody else would lend to him.

 

[Rogue AI]

We will likely see the true value of his assets next week as his properties are seized.

Good luck with that. If the state seizes the property and loses on appeal they create a monster problem for themselves. Not to mention the costs involved in maintaining said properties, with zero chance of a positive return by the time the case goes through the whole appeals process.

 

[Orangecat]

Nope. SCOTUS? A state Appellate judge refused to halt Trump’s $454 million fraud penalty while he appeals.

Irrelevant in the long run.
Didn't you learn anything from the Colorado ballot case?

 

[Marener]

Good luck with that. If the state seizes the property and loses on appeal they create a monster problem for themselves. Not to mention the costs involved in maintaining said properties, with zero chance of a positive return by the time the case goes through the whole appeals process.

Trump can’t appeal until he puts up the bond. He’s running out of time. After the deadline passes, then they can seize assets.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If the state seizes the property and loses on appeal they create a monster problem for themselves.

Not really. The properties are basically already siezed. They will formally place their liens and start the proceedings. They will not start to collect until after the appeal is exhausted.

And worse case is that the court then gives him the money back.

 

[WEATHER53]

Definitely. What lender wants the potential headaches of Letitia James directing her Jihad at them? She’s an angry, vindictive DIE hire who has made it clear that she is out to get Trump.

Libs loons will deny it but this is more jealousy then dislike.
Growing up being poor wasn’t good. So I did the necessary work and became anything but poor. However, now being rich isn’t good Mostly because the loudest noisemakers won’t do the necessary and responsible things to have a chance to get there

 

[WEATHER53]

All I hear is Trump Humpers making excuses for their Orange God, what a joke.

Use adult words and phrases

 

[WEATHER53]

Irrelevant in the long run.
Didn't you learn anything from the Colorado ballot case?

How to lie more often was that learning experience

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Libs loons will deny it but this is more jealousy then dislike.
Growing up being poor wasn’t good. So I did the necessary work and became anything but poor. However, now being rich isn’t good Mostly because the loudest noisemakers won’t do the necessary and responsible things to have a chance to get there

Have you thought about discussing the topic, instead of filling the thread with your whiny tears?

Why can't the beggar billionaire make bond?

 

[skews13]

Something seems to be amiss.

Don Trump not that long ago said he was worth $10 billion.
Now, today he says he can't raise either the $464 million in cash, or $10% of that for a bond......while he appeals the fraud judgement against him.

Now, why?
Did he squander about $9 billion since he claimed he had 10 billion?
If he did, how?
Was he fibbing about the $10 billion?
And if he was....why?

Or, is he fibbing now about being unable raise the significantly less than a billion the court says he owes.

Seems there are some unanswered questions here.


Will the DA begin seizure actions?
If so, which properties are most easily seized and most likely to be surety for the $464,000,000 the court says he owes.

And, how does his failure to raise the required court-ordered monies in this case impact the awards in the E. Jean Carroll cases?

If he can't come up with the money he may wind up facing perjury charges.