Ruth Bader Ginsburg Writes Scathing 35-Page Dissent In Birth Control Case

[LadyGunSlinger]

Waiting for one NON MENOPAUSAL forum liberal to state she cannot get birth control in this country..

 

[martybegan]

Waiting for one NON MENOPAUSAL forum liberal to state she cannot get birth control in this country..

It's not the getting, it's the paying they worry about.

 

[peach174]

And when a Catholic run business challenges all of the birth control in the insurance?

It would have to be a closely held corporation, not just one with a catholic CEO, or even a majority of catholic shareholders.

And what then happens??? GASP!!! People pay for their own birth control!!!! Just like I pay for my own condoms!!!!!

THE FUCKING HORROR.

The birth control in the law is paid for by the work the employee does.

Employees are paid for the work they do at their companies.
Owners of those companies should not be forced to pay for a woman who went out to have fun the night before with unprotected sex and expect the Boss to pay for it.

 

[peach174]

What were those uppity women thinking.

5 Catholics on the court vote against birth control? Quelle surprise ..... NOT!

Those four women ruled on ideology and not the constitution.
The men did not rule against birth control.
Birth control has not been outlawed and they said that the new health care law needs to be done a different way.
They ruled on the constitution of freedom of religion and the four women should have also.

 

[Meister]

The government just made a healthcare decision for every woman unfortunate enough to work for an evangelical patriarchal piece of shit and you seem pretty happy about it.

Employers should not be sponsoring health insurance. ObamaCare made things worse by embedding that gigantic boondoggle even further, thus ensuring the cost curve will continue to be bent upward.

Not only did ObamaCare further embed this mistake, it also attempted to define exactly what the employer must provide.

And yet ObamaCare supporting dipshits say, "What government takeover of health care? I see no government takeover of health care."

So it was not Hobby Lobby that did this. It was you and your ilk who feel the government should be mandating this shit in the first place!

If you were buying your own health insurance, as you should be, your evangelical boss would have NO SAY AT ALL IN YOUR HEALTH CARE DECISIONS.

Get it now?

ObamaCare just made all of us even more hostage than ever when it more deeply embedded employer-sponsored health insurance.

Don't look at liberals for that shit, we wanted a single payer system but it just went further and further into another "free market" privatization fuck up trying get something a god damned republican or conserva-dem would vote for. We just couldn't cut the insurance companies out of the loop, we just couldn't do away with the chain that keeps so many tied to horrible jobs.

Just why didn't you get single payer then? You passed obummercare without a republican vote. If you libs really wanted single payer you could have voted that in, also. Oh wait....Obama couldn't get enough liberal votes for single payer.

Looks like you can only blame liberals for this mess, huh?

 

[peach174]

You're aware that the Catholic church opposes all those other forms of birth control, aren't you?

So what? You're the one crying about the ruling,as it turns out you have nothing to cry about.
So why exactly are you pissing and moaning? Or did you not look into the truth of the matter and just went with what your masters told you?
So 16 of 20 forms of BC isnt enough for you? You want em to buy you a shop vac and a coat hanger as well?
You people are a joke.....

And when a Catholic run business challenges all of the birth control in the insurance?

They can drop the ones run by Catholics and get Obama Care that does.

 

[RKMBrown]

Poor liberals....they'd better get used to losing....

We lose battles here and there. We won the war long ago. No worries mate.

If you won the war, how come you keep crying you don't have enough of my shit you moocher?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Waiting for one NON MENOPAUSAL forum liberal to state she cannot get birth control in this country..

It's not the getting, it's the paying they worry about.

Exactly and Planned Parenthood as well as the Dept of Health @ Social Services has free contraception for those who cannot afford it. You have to go in, make an appointment- have a pap done.. and that's it.. They don't want to take the time to get up off of their lazy ass to do it.. IT'S AVAILABLE FOR FREE
[MENTION=23094]martybegan[/MENTION]

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Liberals LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Planned Parenthood.. well fucking use it then instead of your constant incessant whining about contraception/ women's health..

Planned Parenthood receives record amount of taxpayer support | Fox News


Planned Parenthood reported receiving a record $542 million in taxpayer support in fiscal 2012,

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Stephen Breyer, joined Ginsburg in her dissent.

Notice these people are what America will be in the near future with the demographic shift ,not the pasty faced old cracker goyim and uncle Clarence Thomas's

Ruth Bader Ginsburg Writes Scathing 35-Page Dissent In Birth Control Case

Wow, so you're a total fucking racist then.

And seriously, if you see a world with abortion on demand and free shit for all as the future of our country, this country has no future. We can't survive if we're overrun with a bunch of people like you.

 

[RKMBrown]

Waiting for one NON MENOPAUSAL forum liberal to state she cannot get birth control in this country..

It's not the getting, it's the paying they worry about.

Exactly and Planned Parenthood as well as the Dept of Health @ Social Services has free contraception for those who cannot afford it. You have to go in, make an appointment- have a pap done.. and that's it.. They don't want to take the time to get up off of their lazy ass to do it.. IT'S AVAILABLE FOR FREE
[MENTION=23094]martybegan[/MENTION]

It was about force. They wanted to force them to personally agree to pay for it or pay the fine and let their employees get on obuma care.

Remember the plan is to destroy private health care plans. To make them to expensive and to un-desirable for any corporation to want to fund. The plan is to move us to single payer where the evil rich buy health care and the libtards get to kill abort children with the evil rich's assets. The evil rich being the upper middle class income earners. Not the super rich, no those are democrats who are bankrolling the democrat party, so they get a pass.

In short the democrats want us all to be working for government and/or unions, in some form of quasi marxist socialist state with national and union owned industries.

 

[KNB]

It's not the getting, it's the paying they worry about.

Exactly and Planned Parenthood as well as the Dept of Health @ Social Services has free contraception for those who cannot afford it. You have to go in, make an appointment- have a pap done.. and that's it.. They don't want to take the time to get up off of their lazy ass to do it.. IT'S AVAILABLE FOR FREE
[MENTION=23094]martybegan[/MENTION]

It was about force. They wanted to force them to personally agree to pay for it or pay the fine and let their employees get on obuma care.

Remember the plan is to destroy private health care plans. To make them to expensive and to un-desirable for any corporation to want to fund. The plan is to move us to single payer where the evil rich buy health care and the libtards get to kill abort children with the evil rich's assets. The evil rich being the upper middle class income earners. Not the super rich, no those are democrats who are bankrolling the democrat party, so they get a pass.

In short the democrats want us all to be working for government and/or unions, in some form of quasi marxist socialist state with national and union owned industries.

And the alternative is what? Everyone working for Conservative corporations that want lower taxes and more unemployed Americans on food stamps?

 

[chikenwing]

Poor liberals....they'd better get used to losing....

We lose battles here and there. We won the war long ago. No worries mate.

Won what war,thee one in your head?

Its great that one group hates another so much as to think they need to war agianst them,sad and pathetic.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Exactly and Planned Parenthood as well as the Dept of Health @ Social Services has free contraception for those who cannot afford it. You have to go in, make an appointment- have a pap done.. and that's it.. They don't want to take the time to get up off of their lazy ass to do it.. IT'S AVAILABLE FOR FREE
[MENTION=23094]martybegan[/MENTION]

It was about force. They wanted to force them to personally agree to pay for it or pay the fine and let their employees get on obuma care.

Remember the plan is to destroy private health care plans. To make them to expensive and to un-desirable for any corporation to want to fund. The plan is to move us to single payer where the evil rich buy health care and the libtards get to kill abort children with the evil rich's assets. The evil rich being the upper middle class income earners. Not the super rich, no those are democrats who are bankrolling the democrat party, so they get a pass.

In short the democrats want us all to be working for government and/or unions, in some form of quasi marxist socialist state with national and union owned industries.

And the alternative is what? Everyone working for Conservative corporations that want lower taxes and more unemployed Americans on food stamps?

You've smoked too much SQUIRREL..lay down the crack pipe-

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What happened to "If you like your plan, you can keep it. Period" Had Obama not been a pathological liar, this never would have happened

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Poor liberals....they'd better get used to losing....

We lose battles here and there. We won the war long ago. No worries mate.

Not there yet. No Mass Graves. That's always the sign of the final Progressive victory

 

[RKMBrown]

Exactly and Planned Parenthood as well as the Dept of Health @ Social Services has free contraception for those who cannot afford it. You have to go in, make an appointment- have a pap done.. and that's it.. They don't want to take the time to get up off of their lazy ass to do it.. IT'S AVAILABLE FOR FREE
[MENTION=23094]martybegan[/MENTION]

It was about force. They wanted to force them to personally agree to pay for it or pay the fine and let their employees get on obuma care.

Remember the plan is to destroy private health care plans. To make them to expensive and to un-desirable for any corporation to want to fund. The plan is to move us to single payer where the evil rich buy health care and the libtards get to kill abort children with the evil rich's assets. The evil rich being the upper middle class income earners. Not the super rich, no those are democrats who are bankrolling the democrat party, so they get a pass.

In short the democrats want us all to be working for government and/or unions, in some form of quasi marxist socialist state with national and union owned industries.

And the alternative is what? Everyone working for Conservative corporations that want lower taxes and more unemployed Americans on food stamps?

Bull honkey.

The alternative is government doing it's job of breaking up monopolies and oligopolies, and implementing reasonable regulations while ensuring we only import goods from countries that have the same or similar regulations.

As for jobs... you are responsible for yourself and your family. Get a friggin job. If you can't find one, make one. Duh!

As for food stamps and other forms of welfare, it's way past time to put back the welfare reforms that were in place under Clinton. Obama's minions have abused our welfare system.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It would have to be a closely held corporation, not just one with a catholic CEO, or even a majority of catholic shareholders.

And what then happens??? GASP!!! People pay for their own birth control!!!! Just like I pay for my own condoms!!!!!

THE FUCKING HORROR.

The birth control in the law is paid for by the work the employee does.

Employees are paid for the work they do at their companies.
Owners of those companies should not be forced to pay for a woman who went out to have fun the night before with unprotected sex and expect the Boss to pay for it.

So the Catholic business that doesn't want the insurance to cover ANY birth control, including the pill which a wife might use while only having sex with her husband,

they don't have a case?

Is that your position?

 

[Zander]

The birth control in the law is paid for by the work the employee does.

Employees are paid for the work they do at their companies.
Owners of those companies should not be forced to pay for a woman who went out to have fun the night before with unprotected sex and expect the Boss to pay for it.

So the Catholic business that doesn't want the insurance to cover ANY birth control, including the pill which a wife might use while only having sex with her husband,

they don't have a case?

Is that your position?

It is government interference that created this clusterfuck......

 

[FA_Q2]

What happens when Muslim businesses in the designated categories start opting out of laws that don't conform to Sharia? I have a feeling our Confederate, sorry, I mean Conservative friends will be whistling a different tune, Yes?



This is a minefield in a guagmire that has the potential of spawning a miasma of unintended consequences. Shoulda listened to Ruth.

No, you don’t get to ignore law at all. What the government cannot do is compel you to act against your religion. IOW you can’t be FORCED to purchase a product that goes against your religious beliefs. That does not mean that you can engage in activities that are unlawful such as animal sacrifice. They are different as one is compulsion and the other is not.

Where did you pull that out of? Exactly.

I haven't read the whole ruling, just the digests. Apparently you haven't gone that far. This ruling has nothing to do with consumer rights from what I've seen. It's about busness' rights to opt out of laws they have religious objections to.

You misunderstand my statement entirely.

It's not a consumer right - it is the right not to be compelled to violate your religious beliefs. You do realize that the businesses in question ARE the consumers of that healthcare plan as they are the ones that are purchasing them.

The ruling essentially means that hobby lobby cannot be compelled to violate its religious beliefs by supplying that product (the healthcare that it was required to buy) to its employees. The government did not have the right to mandate that purchase.