Russia threatens Poland for Soviet memorial tear down.

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Is this the Russia Conservatives are fighting for, one with Soviet sentiments, that bullies it's neighbors?

Russia preparing retaliation against Poland over war memorial row: agencies

July 19, 2017 / 12:25 PM / 5 days ago
Russia preparing retaliation against Poland over war memorial row: agencies



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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia is preparing retaliatory measures against Poland to punish it for what Moscow says is an illegal and immoral plan to tear down Soviet-era World War Two monuments, an ally of President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.

Polish President Andrzej Duda on Monday approved amendments to a law banning the promotion of communism and ordering the removal within a year of Soviet statues, including those that commemorate the Red Army.

Valentina Matviyenko, speaker of the Russian upper house of parliament and a close Putin ally, strongly criticized the move on Wednesday and said the Russian Foreign Ministry was drawing up retaliatory "measures," Russian news agencies reported.

The dispute centers on the two countries' differing interpretations of history.

Russia says the Polish move spits in the faces of the more than 600,000 Soviet troops who lost their lives liberating Poland from the Nazis.

But many Poles today say they view the Soviet troops as occupiers, not liberators. Poland was under Soviet control for over four decades after the Second World War and the last Russian soldiers only left in 1993.

When asked about Matviyenko's comments, the Russian Foreign Ministry referred Reuters to a statement it issued on Tuesday which said Poland's actions would trigger "consequences" for Warsaw.

The statement said the Polish move violated a 1992-1994 Russo-Polish agreement in which Poland had pledged to protect such monuments.

"The Polish authorities understand very well what a serious insult they are delivering to the Russian people and the people of countries that used to be part of the USSR," the statement said. "Nevertheless, in Warsaw they are consciously going ahead with this outrageous provocation."

Reporting by Andrew Osborn in Moscow and Lidia Kelly in Warsaw; Editing by Jack Stubbs

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

 

[Stratford57]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well... How did Russians insult you? Looks like you don't know much about Russians (except for propaganda).

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.
Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation
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Now compare to Ukrainian nationalists, who were fighting on Hitler side during WW2 and whom official Kiev glories now as heroes:
Polish Senate pays tribute to the citizens of the Second Polish Republic brutally murdered by Ukrainian nationalists, says the resolution.

On July 15, 2013, Poland's Sejm adopted a special resolution dedicated to the 70th anniversary of the Volyn massacre. The resolution stated that crimes committed by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army were of "the nature of an ethnic cleansing with signs of genocide." The resolution also specifies the number of Polish victims, killed in Volyn and Eastern Galicia in 1942-1945, to be around 100,000 people.
Senate of Poland voted for recognizing Volyn 1940 massacre as a genocide
The Polish Senate adopted a resolution on recognizing Volyn tragedy genocide

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

 

[oldsoul]

But, I thought the Russians were our friends...

• The Russian "reset". Oops, that didn't work out.
• "I'll be more flexible after the election." Flexible about what? yoga?
• No problem that the Russians gained access to a bunch of U.S. uranium. Nothing to see here....

Interesting that now the Russians are our most concerning adversary. Oh, right, a Republican is in office now, I almost forgot...

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.
Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Liberation, or Occupation of Poland by Soviets?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

Thanks for proving Israel's opinion doesn't matter, if they support ruthless tyrants like Soviets.

 

[Sbiker]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

It's logically... Stupid Khrushev and Putin tried to hide the truth for "friendship of nations", "positive relations"... They lied about Stalin's guilt in Katyn - but how I want they see your speech every day.

Unfortunately, Russian didn't shoot any officers in Katyn - it's just a Goebbels propaganda, it was known even in 1943, when Nazi starts it. But we, Russians, do have a cemeteries of millions invaders - Germans, Magyars, Italians, Japans, Frenches and so on. And we wouldn't fight with deads. But when you would change your anti-Russian rhetoric to actions - who knows, it could be of your final place too ))

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

It's logically... Stupid Khrushev and Putin tried to hide the truth for "friendship of nations", "positive relations"... They lied about Stalin's guilt in Katyn - but how I want they see your speech every day.

Unfortunately, Russian didn't shoot any officers in Katyn - it's just a Goebbels propaganda, it was known even in 1943, when Nazi starts it. But we, Russians, do have a cemeteries of millions invaders - Germans, Magyars, Italians, Japans, Frenches and so on. And we wouldn't fight with deads. But when you would change your anti-Russian rhetoric to actions - who knows, it could be of your final place too ))

Unfortunately, Russian didn't shoot any officers in Katyn

Bullshit.

But we, Russians, do have a cemeteries of millions invaders

Yes you do. Now take your statues in Poland back to Russia and stick them up your ass.

 

[Stratford57]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

Over half a million of Soviet soldiers (Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, even Jews) have fallen for deliberating Poland from Hitler Nazis. Now Polish "servants of the people" want to remove monuments to them (not statues, Toddster, the memorials!). Those Soviet soldiers have sacrificed their lives, what was their fault? SBiker is right: there are plenty of memorials to fallen foreign soldiers in Russia, nobody even admits a thought about removing them. It's a shame for Poland, the older people even remember how they were welcoming and greeting Soviet soldiers, who freed them and their cities from Germans. One guy Alexey Batyan (he's still alive, thanks God) even saved whole city of Krakov from being blown up completely.

Liberation of Poland: the Man who Saved Krakow

Looks like certain people want to rewrite the history and you are supporting them. But the truth will always remain the truth, and it's up to you if you want to figure it out (which is more difficult) or to choose an easy way and to fall for propaganda. But propaganda robs your mind and damages your brain. Look at liberals, they are the bright example of shifting mentality.

 

[Sbiker]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

It's logically... Stupid Khrushev and Putin tried to hide the truth for "friendship of nations", "positive relations"... They lied about Stalin's guilt in Katyn - but how I want they see your speech every day.

Unfortunately, Russian didn't shoot any officers in Katyn - it's just a Goebbels propaganda, it was known even in 1943, when Nazi starts it. But we, Russians, do have a cemeteries of millions invaders - Germans, Magyars, Italians, Japans, Frenches and so on. And we wouldn't fight with deads. But when you would change your anti-Russian rhetoric to actions - who knows, it could be of your final place too ))

Unfortunately, Russian didn't shoot any officers in Katyn

Bullshit.

God, downed the Kachinski plane, already showed, who's right. You're don't agree with God?

But we, Russians, do have a cemeteries of millions invaders

Yes you do. Now take your statues in Poland back to Russia and stick them up your ass.

I agree with you. Bible also says " Do not give that which is holy to the dogs..." So, I think, Putin must take this memorials from Poland and establish them in Russian towns. To remember, who is Poland people and how we could act with them in future...

 

[Sbiker]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

Over half a million of Soviet soldiers (Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, even Jews) have fallen for deliberating Poland from Hitler Nazis. Now Polish "servants of the people" want to remove monuments to them (not statues, Toddster, the memorials!). Those Soviet soldiers have sacrificed their lives, what was their fault? SBiker is right: there are plenty of memorials to fallen foreign soldiers in Russia, nobody even admits a thought about removing them. It's a shame for Poland, the older people even remember how they were welcoming and greeting Soviet soldiers, who freed them and their cities from Germans. One guy Alexey Batyan (he's still alive, thanks God) even saved whole city of Krakov from being blown up completely.

Liberation of Poland: the Man who Saved Krakow

Looks like certain people want to rewrite the history and you are supporting them. But the truth will always remain the truth, and it's up to you if you want to figure it out (which is more difficult) or to choose an easy way and to fall for propaganda. But propaganda robs your mind and damages your brain. Look at liberals, they are the bright example of shifting mentality.

It's not reason for them, all humanistic arguments is nothing for Poland. They respect only brute force... So, while Russia is not ready to show force, to talk with them is a action with void effect... Germans already knew it - so, they could rule of Poland mood as they want

 

[BlackFlag]

But, I thought the Russians were our friends...

• The Russian "reset". Oops, that didn't work out.
• "I'll be more flexible after the election." Flexible about what? yoga?
• No problem that the Russians gained access to a bunch of U.S. uranium. Nothing to see here....

Interesting that now the Russians are our most concerning adversary. Oh, right, a Republican is in office now, I almost forgot...

How much U.S. uranium did Russia get? oldsoul

 

[Sbiker]

But, I thought the Russians were our friends...

• The Russian "reset". Oops, that didn't work out.
• "I'll be more flexible after the election." Flexible about what? yoga?
• No problem that the Russians gained access to a bunch of U.S. uranium. Nothing to see here....

Interesting that now the Russians are our most concerning adversary. Oh, right, a Republican is in office now, I almost forgot...

How much U.S. uranium did Russia get? oldsoul

Uranium? To Russia from US? WTF? We have enough own uranium... :-\

 

[BlackFlag]

But, I thought the Russians were our friends...

• The Russian "reset". Oops, that didn't work out.
• "I'll be more flexible after the election." Flexible about what? yoga?
• No problem that the Russians gained access to a bunch of U.S. uranium. Nothing to see here....

Interesting that now the Russians are our most concerning adversary. Oh, right, a Republican is in office now, I almost forgot...

How much U.S. uranium did Russia get? oldsoul

Uranium? To Russia from US? WTF? We have enough own uranium... :-\

The answer is not a drop. I want oldsoul to realize he is easily fooled.

 

[Bleipriester]

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well... How did Russians insult you? Looks like you don't know much about Russians (except for propaganda).

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

Big witch hunt. Those are witnesses of time and shouldn´t be destroyed by fanatics. Like ISIS smashing antique constructions.

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

There was no Israel back then. The majority of the Jews were German.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.
Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation
--

Nope, no liberation here. Let us remember that Stalin invaded Poland in 1939 with Hitler. Also, Stalin´s regime was in no way more humanitarian than Hitler´s. Up to 60 million Russians were murdered by the Stalin regime. Stalin was labeled a criminal by his own party after his death. Also, downplaying the millions of casualties caused by Stalin´s doctrine of canon fodder is an insult to the fallen.

 

[Sunni Man]

WWll started when Hitler invaded the western half of Poland, and then Britain and France declared war on Germany. Yet nothing was said about Russia invading eastern Poland at the same time.

Then at the end of WWll all of Poland was handed over to Russia, and they were enslaved by the brutal Soviet communists for several decades.

So I don't blame the Polish people for wanting to rid their country of anything Russian. .....

 

[Stratford57]

WWll started when Hitler invaded the western half of Poland, and then Britain and France declared war on Germany. Yet nothing was said about Russia invading eastern Poland at the same time.

Then at the end of WWll all of Poland was handed over to Russia, and they were enslaved by the brutal Soviet communists for several decades.

So I don't blame the Polish people for wanting to rid their country of anything Russian. .....

What do you guys know about deliberation of Europe from Germans and from where? We (the people from Russia, Belarus, Eastern Ukraine [quite a few Western Ukrainians were fighting on Hitler's side and now official Kiev glorifies them as heroes!], Georgia, Armenia) know about it from our own family members, from friend's and neighbor's family members who participated WW2. Each family of ours has had a few (if not several) members who knew about WW2 from their own experience and they all were telling us how happy Europeans were to see Russians (which included basically all nationalities living in USSR) deliberating them from Germans and they didn't care if those Russians were "brutal Communists" or not. Those who have been under Germans could never forget that horrible time, some of them are still alive and a telling the truth about it.

BTW, "brutal Soviet Communists" is another myth you guys are stuffed with probably from your anti-Russian text-books. Not everybody in Soviet Union was a communist, not at all. I'm not sure if Communist party included even half of population, I doubt it. For example, none of my family members has ever been a member of Communist party.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

Over half a million of Soviet soldiers (Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, even Jews) have fallen for deliberating Poland from Hitler Nazis. Now Polish "servants of the people" want to remove monuments to them (not statues, Toddster, the memorials!). Those Soviet soldiers have sacrificed their lives, what was their fault? SBiker is right: there are plenty of memorials to fallen foreign soldiers in Russia, nobody even admits a thought about removing them. It's a shame for Poland, the older people even remember how they were welcoming and greeting Soviet soldiers, who freed them and their cities from Germans. One guy Alexey Batyan (he's still alive, thanks God) even saved whole city of Krakov from being blown up completely.

Liberation of Poland: the Man who Saved Krakow

Looks like certain people want to rewrite the history and you are supporting them. But the truth will always remain the truth, and it's up to you if you want to figure it out (which is more difficult) or to choose an easy way and to fall for propaganda. But propaganda robs your mind and damages your brain. Look at liberals, they are the bright example of shifting mentality.

Over half a million of Soviet soldiers (Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, even Jews) have fallen for deliberating Poland from Hitler Nazis.

The Soviets, who decided to split Poland with Hitler, and later lost soldiers fighting the Nazis in Poland before enslaving Poland for 40 plus years can take their monuments back to Russia.

Looks like certain people want to rewrite the history

Like the a-holes who call Soviet enslavement "liberation".
I hate those guys.
They should stick a Commie monument up their ass. I'll help!

But propaganda robs your mind and damages your brain.

And vodka. Vodka and propaganda are the worst.

 

[Stratford57]

Fuck the Russians.
Dump those monuments in a septic pit.

Toddster, I was hoping you were becoming smarter. Oh, well...

BTW, Israel condemns Polish actions same way:

the people of Russia and Israel suffered the most from the fascism during World War II, and "the cases of desecrating memorials to the soldiers that gave their lives in the fight against fascism are completely inadmissible, to say nothing about legal justification of these criminal actions."
Israel Parliament Adopts Decree on Polish Decision to Demolish Soviet Monuments
----

For example, a telegram from the Polish Patriots’ Union states that Polish citizens fighting on the Soviet side – in the so-called Armia Ludowa, or People’s Army – “have created a bridge that unites two brotherly nations.”

A special address of the pro-Communist Polish forces, dated July 1944, calls for all Poles to join the fight against the Nazi occupiers. “Give a proper welcome to our ally – the Red Army – that has great achievements in fighting the Germans. Help our military and Soviet troops to destroy the German forces,” the document reads.

The Defense Ministry also emphasized the importance of numerous reports by Soviet military officers that described cases of mass executions, torture and looting committed by the Nazis against the Polish civilian population, as well as the barbaric destruction of civilian infrastructure and historical legacy by the Nazi troops.

Poland was occupied by the Nazis between 1939 and 1945. About 6 million Poles – 20 percent of the country’s population died in the war and occupation. Over 40,000 Soviet soldiers gave their lives in the operation to liberate Poland.

Declassified Russian Defense Ministry docs show Polish gratitude for WWII liberation

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

Fuck the Russians and their statues.

Over half a million of Soviet soldiers (Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, even Jews) have fallen for deliberating Poland from Hitler Nazis. Now Polish "servants of the people" want to remove monuments to them (not statues, Toddster, the memorials!). Those Soviet soldiers have sacrificed their lives, what was their fault? SBiker is right: there are plenty of memorials to fallen foreign soldiers in Russia, nobody even admits a thought about removing them. It's a shame for Poland, the older people even remember how they were welcoming and greeting Soviet soldiers, who freed them and their cities from Germans. One guy Alexey Batyan (he's still alive, thanks God) even saved whole city of Krakov from being blown up completely.

Liberation of Poland: the Man who Saved Krakow

Looks like certain people want to rewrite the history and you are supporting them. But the truth will always remain the truth, and it's up to you if you want to figure it out (which is more difficult) or to choose an easy way and to fall for propaganda. But propaganda robs your mind and damages your brain. Look at liberals, they are the bright example of shifting mentality.

Over half a million of Soviet soldiers (Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, even Jews) have fallen for deliberating Poland from Hitler Nazis.

The Soviets, who decided to split Poland with Hitler, and later lost soldiers fighting the Nazis in Poland before enslaving Poland for 40 plus years can take their monuments back to Russia.

Looks like certain people want to rewrite the history

Like the a-holes who call Soviet enslavement "liberation".
I hate those guys.
They should stick a Commie monument up their ass. I'll help!

But propaganda robs your mind and damages your brain.

And vodka. Vodka and propaganda are the worst.

What a pile of BS not based on any historical facts. You are just ignorant and proud of it. There is a saying:

Never start playing chess with a dove. He would scatter chess pieces, crap on the chessboard and after all he would proudly fly away as if he defeated everybody.