Russia taunts US with biggest military offensive since the Cold War

[barryqwalsh]

Russia has begun its biggest surface deployment since the end of the Cold War as it aims to effectively end the war in Syria on the eve of the US election, Nato officials warned last night.

The Kremlin is sending the full might of its Northern Fleet and part of the Baltic Fleet to reinforce a final assault on the city of Aleppo in a fortnight, according to Western intelligence.



Russia taunts US with biggest military offensive since the Cold War

 

[GLASNOST]

Why would this be considered a "TAUNT"?

 

[Syriusly]

Why would this be considered a "TAUNT"?

I am wondering that also- since their 'full might' is less than that of one American carrier group.

 

[barryqwalsh]

The timing is no coincidence. Three weeks away from the US presidential election, and with US-led coalition forces focused on retaking Mosul, Isil's last stronghold in Iraq, Vladimir Putin is seizing the opportunity to reach two goals at once: declare victory in Syria and highlight US incompetence.


The USA has two weeks to save Syria from the Russian armada – or lose its last scraps of moral authority

 

[Camp]

Why would this be considered a "TAUNT"?

I am wondering that also- since their 'full might' is less than that of one American carrier group.

The carrier in their fleet is barely a carrier compared to American carriers or even the French carrier currently operating in the Syria campaign, the Charles DeGaule. It carries only about 20 attack aircraft compared to an American carrier's 85.

 

[barryqwalsh]

Donald would be the best option, to work with Vladimir. The Russians, whatever their problems, are basically on the West's side. It is time to bring Russia in from the cold.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Russia's navy, two rowboats and a guy with a snorkel and Sea Hunt speargun.

Of course when Trump describes it it's always huge. "Have you seen Russia's navy, it's huge. Tremendous navy with many ships, much more than the US even though Russia spends 94 billion/yr on defense while the US spends 680 billion/yr. Russia makes tremendous deals on ships, they get 10 ships for $1,500 while we pay 4 billion dollars for one destroyer. We should be terrified of Russia's navy."

 

[GLASNOST]

Why would this be considered a "TAUNT"?

I am wondering that also- since their 'full might' is less than that of one American carrier group.

The carrier in their fleet is barely a carrier compared to American carriers or even the French carrier currently operating in the Syria campaign, the Charles DeGaule. It carries only about 20 attack aircraft compared to an American carrier's 85.

I wouldn't know anything about all of that. But I am sure that Putin's Navy is shipping out to kick terrorists' ass ....... and if he is giving any thought to "taunting the US" then it can't be more than a giggle between salvos fired at ISIS. Putin has no quarrel with Washington unless the Americans get in the way of his objectives in Syria.

 

[Camp]

Why would this be considered a "TAUNT"?

I am wondering that also- since their 'full might' is less than that of one American carrier group.

The carrier in their fleet is barely a carrier compared to American carriers or even the French carrier currently operating in the Syria campaign, the Charles DeGaule. It carries only about 20 attack aircraft compared to an American carrier's 85.

I wouldn't know anything about all of that. But I am sure that Putin's Navy is shipping out to kick terrorists' ass ....... and if he is giving any thought to "taunting the US" then it can't be more than a giggle between salvos fired at ISIS. Putin has no quarrel with Washington unless the Americans get in the way of his objectives in Syria.

Nothing he is bringing to the region indicated ground force participation. Perhaps if a few troop transport ships carrying an armoured infantry unit or two or some artillery units such as the US has deployed the fleet may have some purpose such as force protection, but if not all they are doing is adding twenty planes to the show.

 

[GLASNOST]

Nothing he is bringing to the region indicated ground force participation. Perhaps if a few troop transport ships carrying an armoured infantry unit or two or some artillery units such as the US has deployed the fleet may have some purpose such as force protection, but if not all they are doing is adding twenty planes to the show.

No cannons on board?

 

[Sonc]

Sorry for my English, but a lot of important information.

Russia's navy, two rowboats and a guy with a snorkel and Sea Hunt speargun.
...
It carries only about 20 attack aircraft

It's all true. Americans - the most intelligent. Most beautiful. And they have the biggest dick =))
But ... a couple of facts.

Russia has no aircraft carriers.
No one.
Admiral Kuznetsov is not aircraft carrier.
This is another class of ship - aircraft cruiser.
Main weapon - 12* P-700 Granit - Wikipedia

Built by Chelomei/NPO Mashinostroenia, the bulging 10m missile has swept-back wings and tail, weighs around 7,000 kilograms and can be fitted with either a 750 kg HE warhead, a FAE warhead, or a 500 kt nuclear warhead.
There is clearly a typo. 50 kt ( like 2xHiroshima ).
Operational range 625/388 mi
Speed Mach 1.6 (low altitude) - 2.5+ (high altitude)
Aviation - a secondary weapon. self-defense =)
Pyotr Velikiy has another 20 such missiles. Total 32.

"two rowboats and a guy with a snorkel and Sea Hunt speargun"=)))
It can destroy any country in the region.
But I think they do not have nuclear weapons.
This means that it's just a training.
NATO military simply asking for more money)
Journalists write nonsense ... they also need to feed children)
Camp - just a russophobe =)))


The USA has two weeks to save Syria from the Russian armada
http://sf.co.ua/14/03/wallpaper-457001.jpg
Too late Yankees.

 

[Camp]

Nothing he is bringing to the region indicated ground force participation. Perhaps if a few troop transport ships carrying an armoured infantry unit or two or some artillery units such as the US has deployed the fleet may have some purpose such as force protection, but if not all they are doing is adding twenty planes to the show.

No cannons on board?

The battle cruiser has a large compliment of all types of missiles, but to make a significant difference on the ground, ground units are needed and particularly mechanized infantry units. Those could be transported to the area via air transport or via troop carriers via the Black Sea. If another compliment of Marines is sent to supplement the ones already there protecting the port it will indicate a strategy of ground forces involvement. Russian Marines are already trained to work with Naval forces and the carrier in question has the ability to give force protection and support to one, possibly two infantry units operating in an offensive or static defense.

 

[Sonc]

Of course when Trump describes it it's always huge. "Have you seen Russia's navy, it's huge. Tremendous navy with many ships, much more than the US even though Russia spends 94 billion/yr on defense while the US spends 680 billion/yr. Russia makes tremendous deals on ships, they get 10 ships for $1,500 while we pay 4 billion dollars for one destroyer. We should be terrified of Russia's navy."

May be Trump would say that the US not effective spend money on the military.

 

[Syriusly]

Donald would be the best option, to work with Vladimir. The Russians, whatever their problems, are basically on the West's side. It is time to bring Russia in from the cold.

Donald Trump- America's own wanta be Neville Chamberlain.

 

[PredFan]

Why not? They know 0bama is a pussy and won't do a thing.

 

[Ozone]

for one thing, war in the middle east never ends, so whatever the russians are thinking about getting some victory there, it's not happening. but, more importantly, if the russians want the sand trap, they can have it. why not let them do whatever? maybe it should be our turn to sit back and watch.

 

[Correll]

Russia's navy, two rowboats and a guy with a snorkel and Sea Hunt speargun.

Of course when Trump describes it it's always huge. "Have you seen Russia's navy, it's huge. Tremendous navy with many ships, much more than the US even though Russia spends 94 billion/yr on defense while the US spends 680 billion/yr. Russia makes tremendous deals on ships, they get 10 ships for $1,500 while we pay 4 billion dollars for one destroyer. We should be terrified of Russia's navy."

You lefties have no idea wtf you are talking about.

YOu act like Russia is a defeated power that we can push around.


YOu are the ones too deluded to be allowed near power.

 

[idb]

Remember that Russia's goals are not necessarily the same as the US
If they just want to take back the city for Assad and damn the civilians then they can just level the place.

 

[IsaacNewton]

The Russians are whining about sanctions the US and Europe are leveling against them for their bullshit in Syria.

Actions have consequences, so solly.

 

[barryqwalsh]

Many Americans complain that they are tired of being the 'world's policeman', and the sacrifice in blood and treasure that comes with that. Well then, maybe it is a good thing that other countries are shouldering the burden?